Nick Fuentes grooming victims - As leader of the movement he is responsible for what happens in his movement.

[Fruttasecca]

@Apex Ralphamale take your meds

 

[Molag Bal]

@Apex Ralphamale take your meds

You know I'm right. All of you fuckers' moralizing about spiritual purity has aged like milk. I saw on KC yesterday that Nick was on his show coping more about the Ali Akhbar situation. With a lot of arguments that struck me as mighty familiar.
>We've got lots of enemies backed by the establishment latching onto this, not because they think it's wrong but because it's something they can hold against us.
>Look guys we've got victory on the line here. Who else will fight for a christian America?
>Guys no-one is perfect, if we tear down every oppositional movement because some members in it are degenerates, we can never have a movement grow large enough to overthrow the zog.
You know why those talking points are so familiar to me? Because I ran them myself. Lots of people did, back when it was about the alt right and AF was on the other side. Where do you think he got it from? And all the cuckservatives including AF refused to listen, they all claimed that these are 'excuses' . And that's even though the 'degeneracy' placated back then was nothing compared to this. It was all normie-tier, removed from your depravities by several orders of magnitude.
>This guy jacked off to degenerate porn.
>That guy had a relationship with his own stepmother.
>This organization with hundreds of members has 2-5 gay guys in it, none of which are in a leadership position (unlike with Nick and AF).
You NIGGERS were holding up shit like this like they were these unforgivable sins that are worth destroying a movement over, when their enemies on the left were known to be pedophiles that traffic children. Pedeophiles that traffic children whom you collaborated with and whom you helped consolidate power.

People tried to reason with you and you would have none of it.
>You can't campaign like this, we need a solid foundation where everyone is perfect for this to work.
>Clearly you are all just degenerates who are leading people astray from JEEEBUS
>If we want to fix the country, we need to clean house first.
So you 'cleaned house' and 'cleaned house' and 'cleaned house' in the dissident right until none of it was left. No-one was perfect enough for your standards. But it was clear to me and others that it was all bullshit. You never really cared about spiritual purity, the fact that it even got to this point proves it. It was all because a right-wing movement with great momentum that wasn't on christian religious terms was scarier to you than total surrender to left-wing hegemony. You would rather see an entire generation of children getting their dicks chopped off and fucked in the ass by drag queens than let non-christians fix your country.

So excuse me if I laugh at you when all that I said is eventually vindicated. Turns out all those people on the right that leaned on this spiritual purity spiral shit were playing ball with the right-wing establishment and running child-prostitution operations of their own just like the left was. I am yet again proven correct: Never trust someone who takes time out of their day to shill against White Nationalism. It always turns out that they have some ulterior motive, they always turn out to be gay, pedophiles or to have other skeletons in their closet. The underlying motive always, without exception, comes down to "Oh god, if the decay-enabling establishment was actually overthrown and we were actually starting to cull the worst and most degenerate people, I'd be among the people culled." That's why whenever a right-wing people's movement scores some measure of success, people like you get cold feet and stab it in the back.

I would sooner trust a Somalian immigrant than even the Whitest of conservatives.

 

[Chang Chong]

Spoiler: Political Sperging

The problem isn't the purity spiraling, but rather the fact that they have no basis upon which to do so. The "dissident right" or whatever you want to call it has always been attractive to the following types of people: Deranged loners looking for other deranged loners, homosexuals, sadists and pedophiles, luciferian types (Dicky Thpenther,) and so on. The reason for this is that the movements are fringe, and so they attract fringe people who can't cut it in other social circles -- and on top of that, when you position yourself such to praise Hitler and other "historical villains," you bring in people from the dark underbelly of the world too who see themselves as villains and identify with characters like the Joker and Patrick Bateman and other psychopaths. The right has a villain complex that causes it to implode, and the role of a proper Christian nationalist movement should be to introduce a strong moral basis to identify and oust these people, since the atheist/neopagan precepts do not have a sufficient moral compass to do so. The obvious issue with keeping these types around or trying to sweep up for their degeneracy is that it becomes the face of the movement, and the serious degenerates pose a PR problem that alienates normal people. When characters like Ali Alexander and Milo are your "big guys," (for you) then it gives us all a bad name. Purity spiraling is really just good housekeeping and we need people to do it so the movement won't be full of pedoforks. It's really that simple.

Unfortunately, Nick's purity spiraling was pure projection and maybe (like Milo) a subversion fetish. Your post has shown how bad a name it gives Christian nationalism, but contrariwise this should prove to you that good housekeeping is an utmost necessity, and it starts at the very top. Nick is a shitty person to have for a leader. You need serious principled people who put ideals over their egos and personal well being who don't have myriad gay skeletons in the closet who won't jettison everything just to get some infamy or "political connections." Sadly such people don't seek positions of power. Usually, it's psychopaths and narcissists who deliberately seek power, especially to exploit niches like this one since they tend to be full of desperate people looking for a few drops of copium. Maybe some day we'll get some proper organization with a decent leader who doesn't suck dicks.

Alt-Right 2.0 was a failure for similar reasons as AF to be honest. The people involved were spineless, unprincipled, grifting, or unbalanced in various ways. Matt Heimbach and the TWP is a great example, since the guy beat his wife or something like that. Richard Spencer is a closeted faggot, probably controlled opposition, and is a luciferian (he kept talking positively about Faustianism. Faust is a character who made a deal with the devil for immortality, Spencer idolized Nietzsche, who put self-will and power above all morality and love, etc) Cvill for wignat 2.0 is analogous to STS for the gaypers -- it was a horrendous mess that led to mass persecution of the right wing and federal involvement. It was a retard rally par excellance. The last remainder of that era is TRS with (((Peinovich))) and his crew. Last time I checked, there was a controversy over funding and a general untrustworthyness within the NJP, so that's out too. So what's the alternative? Why sweep up for something that was just as bad? Because there is no other alternative? That's a classic way to justify bad decisions. Just don't make bad decisions. WN 2.0 is dead, the house of the gaypers is burning down as we speak, Rockwell isn't coming back from the dead, so we're out of options. It's tough, but what are you gonna do? Maybe the right will get its head on straight eventually. All there is to do is wait, and to keep "punching right," attacking these fake movements, spineless people, and ousting these sick degenerates. Whoever is left is good people.

Anyway, to bring this back on topic, the victims of Ali's grooming are very frustrating. They keep trying to salvage the reputation of America First, they're allowing themselves to get bullied into recanting, and they keep softening the message. It's really tiring. I think there's a certain type of person who becomes a groyper, who has basically no sense of dignity, low self esteem, and extreme social suggestibility. It's like a woman who keeps going back to her nignog abuser, over and over again. I don't want to victim blame at all, since they didn't deserve what happened to them -- but you think they would be a little more antagonistic to the group that let this happen to them. And yet, they keep falling back on their conditioning. They're really weak people, which is probably why they became gaypers to begin with. I really wish they would just do the rational thing and cut all ties with AF and start denouncing them, but they keep apologizing and backtracking. Watching this unfold is like pulling teeth.

PPP and Yiffski are adamant that AF is imploding, but they underestimate how dedicated gaypers are to their Mexican leader, who himself is probably a pedofork (remember that clip where he said a 15 yr was hot?) The whole group is like a furry discord server, bound together by the sheer amount of degeneracy that they share. They're literally glued together at this point, nothing will break that unity. On top of that, groypers seem to have such terrible personality disorders. It's a relationship of convenience in a sense, of narcissists controlling nice guys, with Catholic morality intervening to scare off people from criticizing the movement out of fear of eternal judgement. Nick has installed himself as a mini pope with his own mini church, and the way he abuses morality to keep the members in line is disgusting to me, maybe even blasphemous. But this structure is very sound. Even if Nick were confirmed gay, gaypers would cope for it, since Nick invokes an infallibility that he doesn't really have, but which is ensconced as a reality-fiction in the minds of his followers. I think AF will keep going for a few more years, until the Jewish dark money runs out. It's too useful as controlled opposition to get rid of.