Neocities and the Yesterweb - The Second Coming of Tumblr. Led by a massive group of extremist hypocrites that go by neopronouns and full of webrings devoted to "transing the internet".

[Anonitolia]

So I've looked at the one archived pixel page and I'm so confused.

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Consider this the collection of the best choice. It's also very easy to identify this person based on the buttons they use.

yeah that's pretty much the standard
that programming socks thing is on like 1/3 of the pages total, I swear
these people write like one-paragraph bios which are mostly taken up by pronoun preference and gender identity, then just shit out 100 blinkies to explain the rest of themselves instead
they also powerlevel a lot because they need to virtue signal
none of these are ironic- the only ones that are usually consist of shit like this

you know, tumblrshit
being condescending, spastic, and backhanded but trying to be 'cute' about it

 

[GenociderSyo]

It's like they took all of the joy out of old websites. They were gawdy and shit because thats WHAT we had to work with. 240x320 images being BIG. Midis. Got bored of the geocities creator real quick and learnt to use notepad.

 

[Anonitolia]

They were gawdy and shit because thats WHAT we had to work with.

wasn't part of it also because some of the people running those sites were genuinely just gaudy people/normal people with a bad eye for colors and design? whereas stuff like this or this (literally has "y2k" and "webcore" in its tags) on neocities is purely derivative and more done to look "retro" than because the owner actually thought it would look good/represent themselves well

 

[GenociderSyo]

wasn't part of it also because some of the people running those sites were genuinely just gaudy people/normal people with a bad eye for colors and design? whereas stuff like this or this (literally has "y2k" and "webcore" in its tags) on neocities is purely derivative and more done to look "retro" than because the owner actually thought it would look good/represent themselves well

Probably. They seem to me more parodies of the sites then an actualy nostalgia for them.

But those websites do things that the older ones could never do. Not sure I was able to even THINK of using frames or iframes until I bought my first domain years later.

I started when geocities still let you choose your "road" and "house number" because thats how they were describing having a website in the early days of it. They at the time were trying to get you to purchase something I think was called hotdog to help you make websites.

Will say I do not miss the finding a way to upload a video and maxing your monthly bandwidth for your site just because you viewed it to see if it uploaded.

 

[Sperghetti]

Thanks for this thread.

The older internet revival is something I like in theory. I like people realizing that they can still make their own web sites instead of relying on social media platforms to host everything for them, and I like the idea that people are finding value in that, in the current day in age.

But in practice, it’s a bunch of tranny zoomers who never existed in a world without Facebook aping what they think the web was like in a time before they were born, and infesting it all with their tranny zoomer mentality. And I agree with @GenociderSyo that these sites often seem more like parodies than a genuine homage to anything.

I still like hosting and making websites and I’m actually working on a project at the moment for a HTML guide and resource directory. (Looking up anything about HTML/CSS in these days feeds my seething hatred of web developers.) I just wish that there was a way to find other sane/old people into this stuff without having to be obvious about it.

 

[Never Scored]

Thanks for this thread.

The older internet revival is something I like in theory. I like people realizing that they can still make their own web sites instead of relying on social media platforms to host everything for them, and I like the idea that people are finding value in that, in the current day in age.

But in practice, it’s a bunch of tranny zoomers who never existed in a world without Facebook aping what they think the web was like in a time before they were born, and infesting it all with their tranny zoomer mentality. And I agree with @GenociderSyo that these sites often seem more like parodies than a genuine homage to anything.

I still like hosting and making websites and I’m actually working on a project at the moment for a HTML guide and resource directory. (Looking up anything about HTML/CSS in these days feeds my seething hatred of web developers.) I just wish that there was a way to find other sane/old people into this stuff without having to be obvious about it.

I think the thing with a lot of those old sites is they were actually about something. Very few people actually made sites about themselves. Like, if you look at a genuinely old website that's still around like The Mushroom Kingdom. It's not about the author's sexual proclivities, it's some guy who's passionate about Super Mario to the point of autism making a big website about Super Mario.

IIRC, back in the day most of the weird sexual stuff like furries and tranny shit and bondage was on Usenet and IRC and later there'd be forums about them as opposed to individual little sites. Not saying they never existed or anything like that, I just recall a lot of that stuff being confined to places where there was more interaction between people than static sites.

What they're actually recreating is Myspace/Livejournal as opposed to the Geocities.

Just look at this list of Geocities Neighborhoods from Wikipedia:

• Area51 and Vault: Science fiction and fantasy, conspiracy theories
• Athens and Acropolis: Teaching, education, reading, writing, and philosophy
• Augusta: Golf
• Baja: Off-road SUVs and adventure travel
• BourbonStreet: Jazz music, Cajun cuisine, New Orleans and Southern United States topics
• Broadway: Theater and performing arts
• CapeCanaveral and Lab: Science, technology, engineering, mathematics, and aviation
• CapitolHill: Politics and government
• CollegePark and Quad: University life
• Colosseum, Field and Loge: Athletics and sports
• EnchantedForest: Topics of interest to children
• Eureka: Small business and home offices
• Fashion Avenue: Fashion
• Heartland and Plains: Parenting and family (originally also focused on pets)[42]
• Hollywood and Hills: Films and actors
• HotSprings: Health and fitness
• MadisonAvenue: Advertising
• MotorCity: Automobiles and racing and dodge cars
• NapaValley: Wine, gastronomy
• Nashville: Country music
• Paris, Rue and LeftBank: Romance, poetry, and the arts (for Paris- and France-related topics such as food and culture around 1996)
• Pentagon: Military
• Petsburgh: Pets
• PicketFence: Home improvement and real estate
• Pipeline: Extreme sports
• RainForest: Conservation
• RodeoDrive: Shopping and luxury lifestyles
• ResearchTriangle: Research and development, technology
• SiliconValley, Heights, Park, and Pines: Computers, hardware, programming, and technology
• SoHo and Lofts: Art and writing
• SouthBeach and Marina: A "high-style hot spot for hanging out, meeting and greeting, seeing and being seen."
• SunsetStrip, Vine, Alley, Palms, Studio and Towers: Music such as blues, grunge, punk rock, and rock 'n roll
• TheTropics and Shores: Travel and vacations
• TelevisionCity: Television
• TimesSquare and Arcade: Computer and video games
• Tokyo: Far East-related topics, including anime
• Vienna: Ballet, classical music, and opera
• WallStreet: Business and finance
• Wellesley: Women-related topics
• WestHollywood: Gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender topics
• Yosemite: Outdoor recreation including climbing, hiking, rafting, and skiin

Yes there is one for LGBT topics, but most of them are like, "Here is were you put pages about Golf." Note that there are none that are just supposed to be a personal site where you write your fucking autobiography. Again, not saying nobody ever did that, but it wasn't the norm.

 

[Dysnomia]

I think the thing with a lot of those old sites is they were actually about something. Very few people actually made sites about themselves. Like, if you look at a genuinely old website that's still around like The Mushroom Kingdom. It's not about the author's sexual proclivities, it's some guy who's passionate about Super Mario to the point of autism making a big website about Super Mario.

IIRC, back in the day most of the weird sexual stuff like furries and tranny shit and bondage was on Usenet and IRC and later there'd be forums about them as opposed to individual little sites. Not saying they never existed or anything like that, I just recall a lot of that stuff being confined to places where there was more interaction between people than static sites.

What they're actually recreating is Myspace/Livejournal as opposed to the Geocities.

When I saw the late 90s/early 2000s web design coupled with "here's how to use my pronouns", I knew I wasn't in Kansas anymore.

Back then, at most you'd have an "about me" that listed your favorite animes, ships ect... You wouldn't have a laundry list of pronouns.

So I've looked at the one archived pixel page and I'm so confused.

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Consider this the collection of the best choice. It's also very easy to identify this person based on the buttons they use.

People are still using these? It would be pure nostalgic bliss if they were not about muh gendernoun feels. Oh and make sure to want to kill those pedos just in case anyone thinks you are a MAP. We all know you're really a MAP and aren't fooling anyone.

I liked it better when these were shipping alliances and web cliques. I'd ask if the web cliques are still a thing but it's probably all trannies now so why bother.

 

[Sperghetti]

I think the thing with a lot of those old sites is they were actually about something. Very few people actually made sites about themselves. Like, if you look at a genuinely old website that's still around like The Mushroom Kingdom. It's not about the author's sexual proclivities, it's some guy who's passionate about Super Mario to the point of autism making a big website about Super Mario.

IIRC, back in the day most of the weird sexual stuff like furries and tranny shit and bondage was on Usenet and IRC and later there'd be forums about them as opposed to individual little sites. Not saying they never existed or anything like that, I just recall a lot of that stuff being confined to places where there was more interaction between people than static sites.

What they're actually recreating is Myspace/Livejournal as opposed to the Geocities.

Funnily, I was just thinking about that earlier this morning… One of the things I loved about the web was how many informative pages there were about STUFF. Yeah, there were some personal sites, but also all the info that people now cram in Google Docs and hide the links to on Discord used to just be on websites where anyone could see it. So much junk that’s in video format now used to just be on static websites. They know that “shrines” were a thing, but they don’t seem to grasp that many of them contained the same sort of content that gets put on wikis today. (And tons of images with no credit. The horror! )

I think you hit the nail on the head that what they’re really trying to recreate here is MySpace. And I think that’s because they don’t really have any context for what a small website can be beyond an extended profile full of “here’s everything about ME and the list of rules you have to obey if you want to talk to ME”.

(Also, that site of the old Geocities neighborhoods… it’s funny how many of those I remember seeing all the time and eventually saw getting subdirectories, and how many I don’t think I saw EVER. I can’t imagine Vienna was a very big neighborhood.)

 

[Anonitolia]

Just look at this list of Geocities Neighborhoods from Wikipedia:

Yes there is one for LGBT topics, but most of them are like, "Here is were you put pages about Golf." Note that there are none that are just supposed to be a personal site where you write your fucking autobiography. Again, not saying nobody ever did that, but it wasn't the norm.

Contrast that with Neocities' neighborhoods (sorry that the formatting is so shit, I copied it directly off the site. Descriptions are in parentheses. Couldn't shrink the font size):

• Arcadia (Video games, puzzles, toys)​

• Arles (Drawings, photos, visual art)​

• Hollywood (Cartoons, movies, western media)

• Oxford (Information and education)​

• Petsburg (Animals and the people who love them)​

• Purgatory (██████████)​

• Silicon Valley (Hardware, software and programming)​

• Silver Lake (Music and things with melodies)​

• Stratford-upon-Avon (Writing and the writers who write it)​

• Tokyo (Anime, manga, and the far east)​

Not only are there far fewer, but there aren't any sub-districts. And two of them explicitly mention being about the webmasters themselves. If you take a look in the districts you'll realize that every single category is mostly full of sites dedicated to people themselves, but even the districts themselves advertise it.

Also their mascot is a cat making an owo face because of course it is.

 

[GenociderSyo]

They also don't know the true joy of webrings..not knowing if clicking that next or random button was going to bring you to a defunct site that now just linked to ED's shock page.

Can you imagine what society today would think of the old Kill Frog flash game site?

 

[OneMillionRPM]

I think you hit the nail on the head that what they’re really trying to recreate here is MySpace. And I think that’s because they don’t really have any context for what a small website can be beyond an extended profile full of “here’s everything about ME and the list of rules you have to obey if you want to talk to ME”.

This reminds me of what I'd been worrying about when I saw 00s nostalgia on the rise. It's just like all the other nostalgia trends where it's all about the products and fads and nothing about the zeitgeist.

Like how 90s nostalgia is all "dood remember dunkaroos? goldeneye? that S thing?", never once bringing up how people behaved during those times. Like how even nerds spent a lot of time offline because the web was still in its infancy. Or that general sense of optimism (in the US anyway) thanks to technology improving and the Cold War being over.

00s/old-internet nostalgia is turning out the same way. "hey remember gaudy websites with 30 gifs plastered on them and userbars and blinky avatars?" Just nevermind how the internet was far less narcissistic then and people talked about things besides themselves. It's not to say that people never talked about themselves because they definitely did, but it wasn't everything. There's a Tumblr blog called One Terabyte of Kilobyte Age that posts screenshots of all the different Geocities sites that existed over the years, and you can see it showcases things pretty well. There's a roughly even mix of sites that are just about their creators and sites that are about something the creator found interesting, like their favorite TV show or a club they're part of.

 

[Anonitolia]

never once bringing up how people behaved during those times

the worst part is that, whenever I do see it brought up, it's either under the umbrella of "being radical" that was the decade's stereotype for so long or complaining about how people acted
It's exclusively either parody or dissing how "intolerant" it was
same goes for the 2000s, and kind of the 80s (but not really since that crowd is aging). It's depressing. If all you learn from the more-prosperous past is that it was a hostile and homogeneous place, how is that lost prosperity ever supposed to return?

 

[Grift Garrison]

Great OP. I wasn't aware of Neocities, but I'm very nostalgic for late 90s internet. Too bad its ruined by troons. If anyone else is nostalgic for this era; you might want to check out the game Hypnospace Outlaw. Its alot of the Angelfire/Geocities vibe with none of the troonery.

 

[Niggerphobe]

I feel like this thread is going to be in some sort of history book in like 30 years about ineternet back then and it uses this as a source for imitations of old net

 

[ditto]

IIRC, back in the day most of the weird sexual stuff like furries and tranny shit and bondage was on Usenet and IRC

ToTSE had libraries of degen textfiles pulled from usenet and BBSes.

Geocities were cool websites to show friends and family. Plus the supply of graphics were very limited to CDs of stock photos, clipart collections and such.

 

[Flanker]

Gave spacehey a bit of a look. Generally nothing massively interesting, mainly just boring vapid people. There's a few capital z Zoomers who were barely even alive during myspace's heyday which is mildly amusing (they also have no opsec but ig that's a bit of a dying art nowadays). That being said, I did find two somewhat funny people on the forums.

The first of which is "The Cooking Goth" (archive). They have 3 forum posts, all of which begging for views on their youtube channel and they haven't been active since 2021 which really says something about society. Worst part is, old mate doesn't even cook that much. he just does "dave's dinnerz" tier videos eating fast food in his car. Really, the only reason he's of any interest is because he looks like this



The next person is "Anna Mae" (archive). Their main draw is their wealth of political threads, tracking their journey from apathetic to politics to being a libertarian apparently. This libertarianism was sparked by a dispute over her right to homeschool her children (archive) which is certainly interesting. Of course, the kind of left leaning people you'd typically associate with old internet revival stuff weren't a massive fan of Anna's political views, leading to some good old fashion flame wars. pretty decent read ngl. That said, like old mate goth, they also haven't been active since 2021.

 

[biozeminadae1]

I feel like this thread is going to be in some sort of history book in like 30 years about ineternet back then and it uses this as a source for imitations of old net

The Disinformation era continues.

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I feel like many of these are some faggot shit:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230330134551/https://yesterweb.org/webring/members

I clicked on a random one, https://aroace.space/ and this is the first page:

Another random one:

 

[Super Dilator Duel 3D]

It's important to emphasize that, as far as I can tell anyways, Neocities itself is not a bad service. I really like what it encourages and strives for; a return to an Internet with many distinct and original sites that cover a variety of topics based on passion instead of clout. I highly encourage everyone reading this thread not to let the trannies and sex pests taint what is, in theory, a fun novelty. If you like the idea of Neocities and hate the people, sign up and make your own site for fun and ignore the tranny genderspecials. The best part of this type of service where the sites can all exist independent of each other (unlike, say, Twitter, where all accounts are on the same feeds and site.) Also, as mentioned earlier, there's like a decade of sites to look at if you're interested. The most popular ones now are fat retard faggots, but that's only because, as we all know by now, they're really good at screeching and drowning out everyone else.

The point made earlier about how the bright, gaudy design of most of these sites feels like parody rather than an authentic recreation is one I agree with, but realistically it's the same shit done with every other decade's aesthetics and trends so it's certainly not an issue exclusive to Neocities. Although it isn't totally "authentic," if it gets zoomers to leave the uninspired and barren wasteland that is modern social media and look into hosting their own sites and content than I'm all for it, even if it means dealing with the inevitable histrionic LGBT faggotry from some of them.

tl;dr neocities and website hosting is cool and its fun to see the principles of free expression online become more popular. dont let the trannies ruin it for you, you're only letting them win.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Spacehey feels weird to me because so many of the profiles could either be a retarded teenager. Or a mid 30s Myspace veteran who has decided to roleplay as a retarded teenager. Either way there's something weirdly performative about it. Either someone imitating an era they never experienced without fully understanding what they are imitating. Or someone deliberately dumbing themselves down in order to pretend to be something that they quite clearly are not anymore. It's a shame because in concept at least I like the idea of going back to a more Web 1.0 style of social media that gave you more control over how you present things. And less algorithms force feeding you dogshit quality content.

 

[Anonitolia]

Great OP. I wasn't aware of Neocities, but I'm very nostalgic for late 90s internet. Too bad its ruined by troons. If anyone else is nostalgic for this era; you might want to check out the game Hypnospace Outlaw. Its alot of the Angelfire/Geocities vibe with none of the troonery.

HAHA YES MY EVIL PLAN WORKED
now one of my favorite indie games ever gets free promotion due to the subject matter
I am a genius

It's important to emphasize that, as far as I can tell anyways, Neocities itself is not a bad service. I really like what it encourages and strives for; a return to an Internet with many distinct and original sites that cover a variety of topics based on passion instead of clout. I highly encourage everyone reading this thread not to let the trannies and sex pests taint what is, in theory, a fun novelty. If you like the idea of Neocities and hate the people, sign up and make your own site for fun and ignore the tranny genderspecials. The best part of this type of service where the sites can all exist independent of each other (unlike, say, Twitter, where all accounts are on the same feeds and site.) Also, as mentioned earlier, there's like a decade of sites to look at if you're interested. The most popular ones now are fat retard faggots, but that's only because, as we all know by now, they're really good at screeching and drowning out everyone else.

joking aside: I totally agree with this
I actually made it a point to clarify that Neocities specifically wasn't the problem early-on in the OP for that exact reason. It's not like Cohost or Buzzly where the explicit goal is to be left-wing or anything; Neocities is an impartial hosting service that does what it sets out to do well
then again, it seems like moderation has been slowly cracking down on "controversial" sites if Ass Gazer is to be believed