Miriam and Ilana (Jonathan's aunt) charged with assaulting police (w/weapon), resisting arrest, and uttering threats.. NEW CIVIL LOLSUIT. - Jonathan charged with criminal defamatory libel 6/9/22

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Yes, but the prosecutors are vastly more likely to listen to their version of the feds than normal people. And the feds are apparently only interested in protecting their own.

Talking shit about the government is a sacred right. This has to be the absolute worst thing they could possibly have picked.

(That said I still hope he goes to jail but am anticipating another feeble prosecution leading to some bullshit fine and probation.)
Normally I would agree. But Yaniv was attempting to put a target on the Officer's Family's. That's a line that should not be crossed. And I have no issue with Prosecutors taking a hard stand against that sort of thing. Provided the law gives them the tools to do so.
 
Normally I would agree. But Yaniv was attempting to put a target on the Officer's Family's. That's a line that should not be crossed. And I have no issue with Prosecutors taking a hard stand against that sort of thing. Provided the law gives them the tools to do so.
He didn't say go kill him, any more than we are saying go kill someone when we shit-talk them. Compare to Hal Turner (and I think that prosecution was overboard too). I don't see why a civil suit funded by the police union (or whatever professional organization RCMP has for their officers) wouldn't address this.

If they got an injunction and he then committed contempt of court by violating it, then jailing him would be appropriate.

I'm just philosophically opposed to the very concept of talking shit about someone ever being an actual crime.
 
I don't see why a civil suit funded by the police union (or whatever professional organization RCMP has for their officers) wouldn't address this.

If they got an injunction and he then committed contempt of court by violating it, then jailing him would be appropriate.
I initially, and naturally, thought it was a civil case and actually commented that I hoped whoever was taking on yaniv had a decent lawyer and queried whether union subs would foot the bill, (as you say, "police union (or whatever professional organization RCMP has for their officers) ) until a poster pointed out it was a criminal case.

I don't understand why criminal and not civil like Amy Hamm. <shrugs>

edited to add: Could this be why?...

" Civil defamation is based on harm to a private entity, but criminal defamation is based on harm to community."
 
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I initially, and naturally, thought it was a civil case and actually commented that I hoped whoever was taking on yaniv had a decent lawyer and queried whether union subs would foot the bill, (as you say, "police union (or whatever professional organization RCMP has for their officers) ) until a poster pointed out it was a criminal case.

I don't understand why criminal and not civil like Amy Hamm. <shrugs>
Check out the links in my previous post. What he said arguably rises to the level of criminal libel and the state (prosecutor) has an interest in being seen to protect serving officers. You don’t want, as a government, the cops to think you don’t care about their reputation. One can make the argument that this is a Public Order/ reputation affecting public respect issue whereas Hamm is a civilian dealing with another civilian whose damages, if found, can be dealt with by orders and money.
 
Check out the links in my previous post. What he said arguably rises to the level of criminal libel and the state (prosecutor) has an interest in being seen to protect serving officers. You don’t want, as a government, the cops to think you don’t care about their reputation. One can make the argument that this is a Public Order/ reputation affecting public respect issue whereas Hamm is a civilian dealing with another civilian whose damages, if found, can be dealt with by orders and money.
Yeah, I'd actually read your post in the other thread but either too tired or too thick (probably the latter) to understand the difference. I'm now thinking it's most probably down to the Crown protecting serving police officers and the likes, as you say.

Thanks for the "easy-speak" as the confusion was bugging the hell out of me.

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the restraint and professionalism on the part of the clerk who filled out this form, and somehow resisted the siren call of the letter "G" when typing "FAW"?
or "T"
 
It looks like the prosecutor is not wasting any time. Jon's first appearance is next week!
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Jonathan is going to miss all those Covid delays...
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the restraint and professionalism on the part of the clerk who filled out this form, and somehow resisted the siren call of the letter "G" when typing "FAW"?
 
I'm starting to think that now it has mainly to do with the accusations of sexual assault.
I dunno. Looking through yaniv's public tweets and FB posts they all seem to just reference physical assault (re "offence date 24th Feb 2021"). The only reference he makes to anything sexual is in the court documents where he's acting as "plaintiff".

There may be some sexual assault claims made that we haven't seen yet (communication(s) to the police authorities; we know how he likes to mouth off to his young TikTok kids etc behind the scenes).

jon boy wasn't there so all the guff he put forward to the court was obviously from his mother & aunt so I'm wondering why they are not both being charged also. The three of them have claimed sexual assault took place

Sorry another question...if this case concerns the police officers accused of physical and sexual assault (miriam & ilana) and yaniv is found guilty can the officers take civil action for defamation?
 
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jon boy wasn't there so all the guff he put forward to the court was obviously from his mother & aunt so I'm wondering why they are not both being charged also.
If Johnathan attempts to marshall a defense, wouldn't he have to say he based his belief on what they told him? Would this drag them into it if they affirmed his public statements?
 
If Johnathan attempts to marshall a defense, wouldn't he have to say he based his belief on what they told him? Would this drag them into it if they affirmed his public statements?
Not if they only do it in court, unless Cuckistan has some really odd rules.

It’s going to be his public accusations that named officers engage in beating up elderly women that will do it.

[Edited to fix a typo]
 
Check out the links in my previous post. What he said arguably rises to the level of criminal libel and the state (prosecutor) has an interest in being seen to protect serving officers. You don’t want, as a government, the cops to think you don’t care about their reputation.
While I generally disagree with the excessive deference to defamation claims in Canada, and more specifically the very existence of a concept like criminal defamation, what Jon did here pretty clearly falls under the definition. My disagreement is more of a policy thing.

This dumb bastard actually managed to say shit so stupid it is literally a crime.
 
While I generally disagree with the excessive deference to defamation claims in Canada, and more specifically the very existence of a concept like criminal defamation, what Jon did here pretty clearly falls under the definition. My disagreement is more of a policy thing.

This dumb bastard actually managed to say shit so stupid it is literally a crime.
Refresh my memory, was everything involving the Tawana Brawley case civil, or were there some criminal elements in there. Because other than the age of the "victim" the accusations were not unlike what Jonny is attempting here. Publicly falsely accusing law enforcement officials of a Sexual Assault.
 
Refresh my memory, was everything involving the Tawana Brawley case civil, or were there some criminal elements in there. Because other than the age of the "victim" the accusations were not unlike what Jonny is attempting here. Publicly falsely accusing law enforcement officials of a Sexual Assault.
I believe it was all civil, and not just against Brawley but Sharpton and a number of other people involved in spreading the lies, unlike the Duke lacrosse team case, where the prosecutor Mike Nifong was himself criminally prosecuted and convicted, although only serving a single day and being disbarred.
 
I believe it was all civil, and not just against Brawley but Sharpton and a number of other people involved in spreading the lies, unlike the Duke lacrosse team case, where the prosecutor Mike Nifong was himself criminally prosecuted and convicted, although only serving a single day and being disbarred.
Sharpton & freddies fashion mart, people died in that bullshit
 
Meox Mix found the info on the libel charge.
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To be honest him being registered as a sex offender would have been better.
Maybe. He's got a criminal record now (Elston). I believe that makes him inadmissible to the US and maybe even Europe. The libel case probably won't bring much beyond another guilty finding with probation. The fire alarm thing tho? Fatboy beat up an innocent old man. Kinda hopeful there might be more than just a slap on the wrist.
 
Maybe. He's got a criminal record now (Elston). I believe that makes him inadmissible to the US and maybe even Europe. The libel case probably won't bring much beyond another guilty finding with probation. The fire alarm thing tho? Fatboy beat up an innocent old man. Kinda hopeful there might be more than just a slap on the wrist.
The real bonus for me is that he can no longer brag about being bezzie mates with the RCMP (loved by all apparently) and is "untouchable".

Who can forget miriam's bat-shit crazy claim that yaniv is court protected from the police...
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So yeah, perhaps we'll never see jail time for yaniv but he's amassing quite a history of offences...unfortunately for him "the internet never forgets".
 
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