Mental illness / Self Diagnosis

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norrington powiedział(a):
In line with this stuff + that vid, I've also known a few therapists and doctors to be largely against giving professional diagnoses, precisely because it creates this vibe of I-can't-change and pity-me toxic shit. They'll do it for insurance purposes/prescription/disability services issues, but other than that, they don't give a shit.
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The point of self diagnosis is to rationalize one's perception of one's flaws as being static and gain oppression points simultaneously
 
Piaxy powiedział(a):
The point of self diagnosis is to rationalize one's perception of one's flaws as being static and gain oppression points simultaneously
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I dunno, I'd say that's the point of posting your diagnosis on your tumblr bio/in personal posts in general, regardless. Basically, at no point in mental health recovery should it be necessary to tell people "I HAVE/AM X" unless you're in a sort of AA/NA 12-steps make-amends scenario (and doing so privately/not as an excuse).

Self dx on its own can be (and often is) used to rationalize your flaws, but it can also be used to try and sort out your legitimate issues and find the relevant resources you need to help yourself. People who encourage it in non-tumblr contexts typically recommend it for those who might not have access to mental health services due to financial/geographical issues.
 
norrington powiedział(a):
Self dx on its own can be (and often is) used to rationalize your flaws, but it can also be used to try and sort out your legitimate issues and find the relevant resources you need to help yourself. People who encourage it in non-tumblr contexts typically recommend it for those who might not have access to mental health services due to financial/geographical issues.
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Self DXing is just a lazy excuse to not see a legitimate professional. If you don't have the money to get a professional diagnosis, why the fuck do you think it's better to self-dx yourself when you're not even qualified to do so? What if you fuck it up?

Treating something that you actually don't have does more harm than good.
 
Melkor powiedział(a):
Self DXing is just a lazy excuse to not see a legitimate professional. If you don't have the money to get a professional diagnosis, why the fuck do you think it's better to self-dx yourself when you're not even qualified to do so? What if you fuck it up?

Treating something that you actually don't have does more harm than good.
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I mean, sure, if you were like 'I'm poor and live in bumfuck idaho and have issues with concentration, ergo I have ADHD, ergo, I should start a nice meth habit'.

Or like that shit on Mr. Robot where the dude starts taking suboxone to treat his morphine addiction like it's gonna stop him developing a morphine addiction.

But like, Borderline (or like, pre-borderline or pseudo-borderline or w/e the fuck) is actually somewhat treatable at the lower extremes, but doesn't respond to CBT or talk therapy and works better with Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), which is pretty similar to how psychologists treat eating disorders and shit like that (there's a lot about mindfulness and bringing yourself back to the present moment and self-evaluation checklists, etc etc) and a lot of the methods of DBT are available online.

Same with non-medication-related ADHD and autism advice, info on diet changes shown to have positive effects on autism symptoms (dubious though the studies might be, if it helps somebody and isn't malnourishing, who gives a shit). Overall, there's a lot of stuff online that helps you counteract or overcome symptoms (but it requires like, actual effort; not really tumblr's forte).
 
@norrington here may be imported Tumblr and have groupthink immediately against her, but I can respect that she actually has the cojones to post an opinion about self-diagnosis that's thought-out and different from what we normally see in here.

That said...
  • Even experts in the field of mental health are generally discouraged from giving themselves diagnoses, since you want to avoid personal biases as much as possible, and it's pretty much impossible not to be biased about yourself.
  • Most of your friends and family members are similarly going to be biased and, given all the public unawareness about mental health, ignorant as all hell. You can bullshit the people in your lives into supporting all kinds of things, from hardcore veganism to crystal healing to joining a cult. That doesn't mean it's just as valid or better than the options provided by people who actually know what they're talking about.
  • Depression is a very commonly diagnosed disorder, and it's well-documented as an incorrect diagnosis for all sorts of conditions, most of them being physical. How the hell are you supposed to rule all these out without consulting a doctor, and applying this to less common self-diagnoses, how do you know that you aren't making a mistake that's simply never been documented before?
In my view, self-diagnosis is too fallible to be a reliable alternative to professional diagnosis, even when done "properly". I know it can be psychologically beneficial sometimes (something something powerlevel), but in that respect it's just like any other faith-based healing method.
 
Alberto Balsalm powiedział(a):
In my view, self-diagnosis is too fallible to be a reliable alternative to professional diagnosis, even when done "properly". I know it can be psychologically beneficial sometimes (something something powerlevel), but in that respect it's just like any other faith-based healing method.
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Yeah, I'd say that's a solid comparison. It's kinda like religion; if you're not constantly shoving it down others' throats, using it to get out of being a piece of shit, or hurting yourself or others, I don't see why there'd be a problem with it.

And I mean, just like someone who wants to heal their cancer through faith, using self-diagnosis as justification for overruling or not seeking actual medical help when you're able to is bullshit.

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These people need to be diagnosed with stupid.
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I've got a feeling when Suicide Squad comes out, a ton of spergy tumblrinas are gonna self-dx themselves as sociopaths.

That or scream about how ableist the movie is.
 
Melkor powiedział(a):
I've got a feeling when Suicide Squad comes out, a ton of spergy tumblrinas are gonna self-dx themselves as sociopaths.

That or scream about how ableist the movie is.
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Cue millions suddenly awakening as kintypes with Harley. We all know it's gonna happen. As much as I love Harley Quinn, she's totally one of those characters that's just kind of cringey when people pretend to be her.
 
Melkor powiedział(a):
I've got a feeling when Suicide Squad comes out, a ton of spergy tumblrinas are gonna self-dx themselves as sociopaths.

That or scream about how ableist the movie is.
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Surely not as bad as it was when BBC Sherlock was at its peak popularity? I hope not, but... Honestly, the more I think about it the more I realize you're probably right. Shit.
 
I want to know what supposedly super rare disability that no doctor she's seen had even HEARD OF that disabilityhealth chick has. You'd think she'd post it so people could marvel at the rarity of her special cross to bear. Or.....just possibly.....the problem is that no doctor has ever heard of it because it doesn't exist. I don't think doctors are familiar with "socioborderline-divergent neurodepressed syndrome co-morbid with autism", although they might know it by its common name: bullshit.
 
I used to get into online arguments with a whole bunch of people who claimed to have autism. This was from 2000 to about 2013. All they really did was take the AQ test (which doesn't even properly measure autism) and call it good. There are legitimate autistics online, but they either ignore the self-diagnosed (probably the wisest thing to do) or they supported them, because hey, now they are less alone!

The last person that I got into an argument with (it was on Tumblr) thought that statistics were based on populations, and not samples. Perhaps she was truly "special", if she really thought that and wasn't able to change her mind through rational argument.
 
norrington powiedział(a):
Surely not as bad as it was when BBC Sherlock was at its peak popularity?
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I'm may have encountered a few "High functioning sociopath"s in real life. Probably 2/10 had some sort of aspergers or high functioning autism; 8/10 were just assholes. I had a great time calling them psychopaths and watching them froth at the mouth, though.

Just for the sake of curiosity I took one of those "Autism Quotient" tests; I scored 31. The number of points needed for 'tism is 32 or higher. So, clearly, these tests cannot tell the difference between 'borderline autistic' and 'just an asshole', because I definitely know which one I am.

On the topic of self-diagnosis, there is a legitimate problem with access the mental health care here in the UK (I think it said something like only 15% of those who need psychiatric care have access to it on the radio this morning... I wasn't really paying attention though, and can't be bothered to google) and you can end up spending six months on a waiting list to be treated for suicidal ideation, so sometimes self-diagnosis is necessary. That said, I've yet to see any of the Tumblr crowd so much as call for better access to mental health services, let alone actually get involved with any sort of activism on that front. I mean, it's almost like they don't want actually mentally ill people to receive treatment... As some posters above stated, any self-diagnosis should be done after some serious research, getting the opinions of others such as relatives and coworkers, and for the purpose of getting/using things like DBT resources. It should also be done while on the waiting list for legitimate psychiatric care. Go tell that to a tumblrite, though; go on, it'll be funny.
 
How come so many tumblrinas want to claim to be disabled? It's not trendy. Having a disability my whole life, I don't understand where they get the interest in wanting to be disabled. It's so obnoxious, and they go on about ableism when they're demonstrating the same "behaviour" that they complain about. They should be happy with their lot in life instead of conjuring up nonsense for reblogs.
 
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