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Marathon 2025 - Bungie's new AAAA Extraction shooter
Chiming in again to say that post-launch layoffs were inevitable but I hope you Destiny losers are happy that your seething about a TEN YEAR OLD GAME ending live service resulted in a massive campaign against an extremely polished and entertaining (albeit massively overdeveloped/over-budget) shooter, ultimately resulting in positions being eliminated.
Steam reviews are clearly being tanked by weirdo diehards that are throwing a pissfit because they can't get NeW cOnTeNt, weird twitter accounts exist solely to talk shit about the game, and there are entire subreddits dedicated to shitting on Marathon. I'm sorry the $60 game that you got to enjoy for 10 years doesn't have new content coming (you can still play TEN YEARS of content lol) and sorry you're going to have to wait a bit longer for a new one (if the studio survives).
I basically gave up on multiplayer FPS two years ago but the style, low price ($40), deep lore and commitment to tasteful paid content (no rappers in the game) made me give this game a shot and it is one of my favorite games to come out in years. Tense to the point of reaching survival horror, great population of squad fills with mics, fun inventory management, a fun PvPvE blend, season wipes, and frequent updates have made this an absolute breath of fresh air.
Hopped on for two hours last night with some friends that haven't played all season and we hit Outpost with pretty basic gear. Ended up out-strategizing two different elite teams, stole two keys and loaded up on great gear before having one of the most tense exfils I can remember, barely surviving as a team tried to snipe us from a nearby rooftop.
Probably no convincing you at this point but the friends that haven't played for two months cannot wait to hop back on tonight and try another few runs. Gamers are such whiny babies and negative commentary always resonates further than positive feedback.
>Give a studio eleventy trillion dollars
>Receive a DOA laughing stock of a game in return
>Decide that it no longer makes sense to pay the devs for no return
>YOU'RE RUINING THEIR LIVES HOW DARE YOU??
>Give a studio eleventy trillion dollars
>Receive a DOA laughing stock of a game in return
>Decide that it no longer makes sense to pay the devs for no return
>YOU'RE RUINING THEIR LIVES HOW DARE YOU??
Far be it from me to be a tranny, faggot, nigger defender BUT, just to be as fair as I can, it seems like a lot of shit was a result of either leadership and/or poor direction. In D2’s case, the team was fully capable of delivering good content still (relatively, gay shit would still be including so.). As far as marathon goes, Joe Ziegler is a disgusting half Asian bug man and turned what chris Barrett wanted (a more PvE focused, story driven shooter with extraction elements) into a gayer version of Valorant. Regardless, it would appear that middle and upper management are why this studio will burn in front of everyone for our entertainment, not the devs themselves.
However, being gay, non-binary retards doesn’t help their case.
Far be it from me to be a tranny, faggot, nigger defender BUT, just to be as fair as I can, it seems like a lot of shit was a result of either leadership or of poor direction. In D2’s case, the team was fully capable of delivering good shit still (relatively, gay shit would still be including so.). As far as marathon goes, Joe Ziegler is a disgusting half Asian bug man and turned what chris Barrett wanted (a more PvE focused, story driven shooter with extraction elements) into a gayer version of Valorant. Regardless, it would appear that middle and upper management are why this studio will burn in front of everyone for our entertainment, not the devs themselves.
However, being gay, non-binary retards doesn’t help their case.
I don't (just) find the hysterics laughable because they're defending gender specials. The main reason they deserve to be fired is that they are costing more money than they bring in.
You hire someone to turn a profit making video games. The video games they make cost more money than they earn. That person gets fired. No sympathy, simple as.
And anyone kvetching about the devs being blameless because their bosses were the problem is just as delusional. Imagine you hire a roofing crew to replace your shingles. You pay them by the hour, and after months of pissing your money away, the work is still not done. You fire them. One of the laborers comes to you, tears in his eyes, and explains that the only reason the roof remains unchanged is that their boss has been making them browse furry porn with him instead of working on the roof. Does that change anything? Do you pat him on the back and say "I'm sorry Jose, I didn't realize that. I'll never ever fire you guys, no matter how short you fall of the basic expectations I set out for you."? No, you tell him to fuck off. Maybe he's the best roofer in the whole world, maybe he could've done it by himself in a day if he had proper management. It's irrelevant to the guy cutting checks for nothing in return, though. He should've expected to be fired long ago, and he probably should've found a different crew to work for if he knows how impossible it is to produce results under his current boss.
I'm having a great time! I've posted in this thread twice but have been reading the entire thing. It is worth calling out that a large portion of criticism for the game is coming from Destiny people that haven't put any time into the game. Read the last 100 pages of the thread and you'll quickly realize the same people so sad ;__; about their FAVORITE video game being FUCKING DEAD are picking apart the game and wish death on a studio because they can't shoot new monsters in an epic limited time spacesuit. Its just super fucking gay and catty (I know, partially the theme of the forum) to be this emotionally invested in an old video game. I like supporting unique ideas and like spending my limited video-game free-time trying different games that deviate from things I'm used to. This game is exactly that and the vocal audience that primarily shits on it has been playing the same game for ten straight years lol. Enjoy your circlejerk, I'm gonna hit a run before I go out with friends tonight.
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I'm having a great time! I've posted in this thread twice but have been reading the entire thing. It is worth calling out that a large portion of criticism for the game is coming from Destiny people that haven't put any time into the game. Read the last 100 pages of the thread and you'll quickly realize the same people so sad ;__; about their FAVORITE video game being FUCKING DEAD are picking apart the game and wish death on a studio because they can't shoot new monsters in an epic limited time spacesuit. Its just super fucking gay and catty (I know, partially the theme of the forum) to be this emotionally invested in an old video game. I like supporting unique ideas and like spending my limited video-game free-time trying different games that deviate from things I'm used to. This game is exactly that and the vocal audience that primarily shits on it has been playing the same game for ten straight years lol. Enjoy your circlejerk, I'm gonna hit a run before I go out with friends tonight.
I haven't played Destiny 2 since the first raid released. I don't give a fuck about it, its a bad game that I will never touch again. I'm STOKED the game is getting the sour ending it deserves and I think the kvetching about it is hilarious.
I made this thread because I was excited to play Marathon. I have over 3k hours in Tarkov and was itching for a new extraction shooter.
Now I can't even play the game without infecting my PC with Windows 11 due to their insane decision to include kernel level anti-cheat.
That's not even getting into the abrasive color scheme, poor implementation of extraction mechanics, abysmal player count, and homo-agenda.
I am by far and away the biggest Marathon hater in this entire thread, strictly because of the decisions Bungie made. If it was playable at all on Linux, I would have bought it already and may have even been a "blast haver"
You're hyping up a mid game made by people who openly hate you.
The color scheme is really refreshing after playing sand shooters for the past ten years. Player count does not contribute to your experience of the game at all, I've never ran into the same people twice and no lobby is every empty. No idea what the homo-agenda is about outside of speculation ITT, not a single thing has stuck out to me in-game as "gay".
Okay, this is admittedly hilarious that you made the thread yet don't understand that "going for a run" in the context of the game is... using a runner shell to play a round. Maybe you're kidding with me but kinda proves my point about the hate coming from people that haven't played it. Your complaint about anti-cheat is valid and supports your inability to play, so I get it. I also believe the amount of money spent on it is INSANE and there is a lot to talk about regarding how Bungie handles gamedev in general. However, the product is not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
I'll take the hate against me for... liking a game (???) and all the MATI reacts you want to throw at me but there really is a neurotic vendetta against this game. People I know IRL and online love it and are (generally) pretty well-adjusted people. Do you know how strange it feels to get online for my two hours of gaming three times a week and get three invites from IRL friends that were previously addicted to TDM CoDslop that want to try a risky contract or something.
I need to stop sperging but frustrating to see unique projects get shit while generic crap for Mexican teenagers makes billions. Reception like this won't encourage risky development and new IPs imo.
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I'm having a great time! I've posted in this thread twice but have been reading the entire thing. It is worth calling out that a large portion of criticism for the game is coming from Destiny people that haven't put any time into the game. Read the last 100 pages of the thread and you'll quickly realize the same people so sad ;__; about their FAVORITE video game being FUCKING DEAD are picking apart the game and wish death on a studio because they can't shoot new monsters in an epic limited time spacesuit. Its just super fucking gay and catty (I know, partially the theme of the forum) to be this emotionally invested in an old video game. I like supporting unique ideas and like spending my limited video-game free-time trying different games that deviate from things I'm used to. This game is exactly that and the vocal audience that primarily shits on it has been playing the same game for ten straight years lol. Enjoy your circlejerk, I'm gonna hit a run before I go out with friends tonight.
Gamer here, never played either one of these dumpster fires (I loathe live service "products," and don't play multiplayer games w/strangers ... I'm more a strategy/simulation/city builder nerd anyway), and even I can see Marathon was hot garbage from day one. Like most people I was aware of OG Marathon as an also-ran Doom-but-for-Macs game, and during its first life I found it impressive Macs could be useful for something besides desktop publishing ("oh how cute, look at that, it thinks it's Doom!" I remember tormenting my Mac friend with). OG Marathon was made by a much different company with very different developers, interested in making a good/fun game that happened to run on an under-served niche market (MacOS), and it stood out alongside a handful of others as genuinely good products in a sea of shitty games made by Mac zealots.
This dull extraction shooter draped in a bleached, neon-soaked copy of Marathon's corpse, is the most soulless corporate slop the world has ever seen and an insult to the OG. Concord (of all fucking things) had a more coherent "identity" (if you can call it that) than this utter garbage. It's more a testament to the human spirit than anything else that a handful of people managed to find enjoyment in it (a person can be Stockholmed into loving anything with enough effort, after all) given what it actually is.
Carry on though, you glorious haver of blasts! Whether you're a paid shill, a sunk-cost chaser or a bona-fide Genuine Fan™ somehow, god bless you doing your duty to the bitter end! Durandal would mock you for it, but just getting his attention at all (even if only for ridicule) is a rare honor in itself.
What fascinates me about this is there are games that allegedly require kernel-level anti-cheat that run just fine on Linux via Steam. Whatever shims are used just lie to the game and say "yup, all good" and it gobbles it right up. First Descendant comes to mind (and that fuckin' skinner box locks down tight). It always impresses me when a modern game emerges that refuses to run on the current SotA Linux gaming stack, as it requires special, deliberate effort to make it not work.
Remember that too -- there's malice in forcing an application not to run on an otherwise compatible environment. And that malice occupies the people who want your money for their product ... which they are deliberately breaking so as not to work on your preferred equipment.
I need to stop sperging but frustrating to see unique projects get shit while generic crap for Mexican teenagers makes billions. Reception like this won't encourage risky development and new IPs imo.
This wasn't "unique" in the "valuable" sense of the word. It also wasn't a new IP. This was literally "take the skin of an old game and slap it on our generic team-based extraction shooter flavor-of-the-month" The Game™. It's only unique in the same sense that one snail's DNA makes it technically unique from all other snails of the same species.
Okay, this is admittedly hilarious that you made the thread yet don't understand that "going for a run" in the context of the game is... using a runner shell to play a round.
I really have to push back on this. No one has to play a game to know they won't like it. Especially when its a $40 investment and steam refund only covers 2 hours.
MOST people have enough knowledge of what they like to make a determination based off of watching a twitch stream or gameplay videos.
I'll take the hate against me for... liking a game (???) and all the MATI reacts you want to throw at me but there really is a neurotic vendetta against this game.
You came into the thread and had an attitude, which is a great way to farm negative stickers. Its fine to like the game. Most of us are upset because we WANT to like this game, Bungie is just making that impossible for us. Just look at @creaturestorm , fellow blast haver. He's simultaneously the games biggest supporter in the thread, as well as the source of the most poignant criticism.
We all see what could have been and that's what makes us so angry.
Marathon is a recycled IP at best, which is part of the problem. Trust me, we all want to see game devs take risks and make new shit. That's not what they're doing with Marathon. They're cannibalizing Destiny, old Marathon, and DMZ to make an unholy and distasteful mess that doesn't resonate with the player base. Risky? sure. But not new and not all that creative either.
God that’s fucking brutal, even for the middle of the day (MST in the US for me, mind you. Maybe the game is popular with euro-fags? Idk.)
We’re back to the classic “we’re being beat by cookie clicker”, but this time it’s “we’re being beaten by the game we just publicly executed, live on television”.
I don't care about Destiny and don't play live service shit, I'm just here because I love trashfires but keep sperging lmao
This is a slow burn type of trashfire but it is sure heating up with the layoffs! Place your bets if this will be firewalk studios 2.0 and Sony will shut down the game and studio soon? Or will Sony continue to puppeteer the corpse out of fear of pissing off investors after lighting almost 4 billion on fire? Or will the blast havers take one for the team and go into debt buying every microtransaction in the game to keep Bungie running? Maybe they should consider adding gatcha mechanics!
I can't decide which outcome funnier but I'm guessing Bungie won't survive past 2030 at this rate. They have no other projects started, they were begging for shit to be greenlit recently which knowing them will take over 5 years to get a bare minimum product ready. They burn copious amounts of cash compared to like any other studio out there so it would be insanely expensive on top of Marathon likely making almost no profit.
I read a comment a while back that bungie is basically a lolcow company and I think that title fits it well. The whole studio is really fascinating to dig into. I'm certainly having a blast, this whole thread is a return to form.
lol based non-Bungie player. Right there with 'ya. These goofballs sperging is almost as funny as this slow-motion dumpster fire of a studio slowly immolating itself.
Hate to break it to you
Marathon is going to truck on for like a decade in maintenance mode. Sony will do anything for those sweet sweet microtransactions.
How much could they possibly be earning in MTX from so few active players? Unless literally every one of those players is a whale and they're selling thousand-dollar consumable "packs" that actually get bought and consumed by those whales, that can't possibly be breaking even, much less turning a profit.
my kiwibrother, Bungie is dead. every remaining trace of talent in that studio was scattered to the winds over a decade ago. they are nothing more than a walking corpse, a corporate slop assembly line. they are incapable of producing anything worthy of notice. this downward spiral is an inevitable result of the personnel massacre forced on them by Activision; by the release of the original Destiny, they were doomed to be nothing more than a publisher subsidiary, producing and maintaining mediocre live service games as they are bought and sold and traded and auctioned until eventually somebody closes them down. 10, 15, 20 years from now, everyone will be reading the headlines, shaking their heads, saying, "Damn, what happened to Bungie? They used to be so good." this is what happened to Bungie. we're living through it right now. let your good memories of them live in the past.
Most of the real talent left before Halo was ever finished because they knew Microsoft was not a good company to work for, the rest left when their stock options vested.
By the time Halo 2 released, 90% of the real Bungie was long gone.
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