✨ Celebrity Madonna - elderly woman mired in existential crisis.

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It’s interesting how many of these pop acts require a tard wrangler or how vital their producers are like Patrick Leonard in her case.
How many? All of them.

It’s a shame, because there are many female artists who can write and make amazing music on their own, but they’re never anywhere near the ‘biggest’.

Behind every single Madonna, Taylor Swift and Beyoncé there are various - invariably male - writers and producers making it all happen. There’ll always be ‘well ackshuallyy…’ types that try to say that because the artists are also named as writers they probably provide most of the input, but when you see people like Max Martin, Jack Antonoff and The-Dream with their fingerprints all over so many different artists shit, it’s clear that they’re the common denominator making the songs and albums what they are.

I saw some short comic strip once that was titled: “The Story of The Spice Girls: The Making of ‘Girl Power!’” And it was two besuited, bald male music execs saying: ‘let’s get some singers together and make a girl group’, then toasting each other with cigars and champagne at the success. That sums most of this shit up, all the comic was missing was the panel where they link them up with the producers and the execs were missing their yarmulkes.

Dead-eyed mannequins like Sabrina Carpenter are just next off the factory production line. Gives me a bit of an uneasy feeling seeing Madge basically ‘anointing’ her, wonder what else she’s been ‘putting her on’?
 
Here's the thing I've always raised an eyebrow over: Madonna's past producers / cowriters claiming that she has innate musical talent. Many of them--most notably Patrick Leonard--have claimed she's musically intuitive and can almost effortlessly come up with melody lines and lyrics (the latter I'm somewhat sold on, as some of her lyrics are totally simplistic, and many of them are just plain awful). I'm just not buying this, especially since she rose to prominence in an era when women did not have a great deal of power and pull in such a corrupt industry. I fully believe she was pushy and ambitious and wanted nothing more than to be famous, no matter in what capacity (acting, I believe, was her initial goal), but I do not believe she is actually a natural musician.

Madonna loves and appreciates all forms of art and artistry, and I'm not denigrating her. I just feel her own artistic strengths lie elsewhere.

Her early records with Patrick consisted of very good, catchy, beautifully-crafted pop songs you could always sing along to and had hooks all over the place. They suited her limited-but-pleasant voice, and didn't sound like anything else. Post-Patrick, we haven't really had much resembling her early stuff at all. She started collaborating with electronic producers like Mirwais and Stuart Price, and that's fine, but nobody really remembers much of those tunes apart from "Hung Up," which relies 100% on a fierce ABBA sample. In my opinion, her albums after Bedtime Stories (and even that isn't too exciting) fall flat; even Ray of Light isn't terribly interesting apart from the title track. There isn't a single indication that Madonna's supposed musical gifts have made their presence known since the mid-90s, leading me to believe that her former producers were told to say how talented she really is.

I understand that artists evolve, but usually if you've been in the biz for forty-plus years, you develop and hone your musical craft and become far more experimental, curious, and independent, and mention it during interviews. I haven't seen this whatsoever with Madonna; has she ever actually eagerly talked about making music? She was a terrific pop star, but I just don't believe she was ever responsible for her endless stream of early hits. In his book "Life With My Sister Madonna," Christopher Ciccone describes an encounter where he was hired on by M to design yet another house, and one room in particular was constructed in a way that made him think it would be perfect for making music. Granted, I'm sure he was entirely coked-out at the time, but she had absolutely no idea why he would even suggest such a thing:

The best element in the house is a two-story sunroom constructed entirely of floor-to-ceiling glass windows. I conceive of turning it into a botanical music room, furnishing it with white-painted metal furniture and hanging plants from the rafters, so that being in the middle would feel like being in the middle of a garden, with sunlight flooding in--the perfect setting in which to make music. I try explaining the concept to Madonna.

"I don't get it," she says.
"Try picturing it."
"I still don't get it. Can't you draw it for me?"
"But I've described it to you in detail."
"I wanna see it before you do it."
I give a big sigh.
She glares at me. "You want to keep this job?"
I nod miserably.
"Then don't give me attitude," she says.


Now, I understand that it was a very gay, out-there suggestion, but what about a home studio? What about insisting on some room or an area in any of her houses where she could concentrate on songwriting, music-making, learning the technology, producing her own stuff? Never heard of this with Madonna, never heard of her caring much about that part of it.

I don't know why it's bugged me so much; Madonna was a successful product who generated loads of money. She was extremely fun, controversial for a long while, had excellent pop records for a few good years, paved the way for the huge-spectacle pop-star concerts everybody expects now, and did her job extremely well. Why talk about what a musical genius she is? I mean, I guess the industry is still doing it with Taylor Swift, whose wealthy father bought her career, and that hank of hair is perhaps the biggest fraud ever perpetuated onto the public.
 
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It’s a shame, because there are many female artists who can write and make amazing music on their own, but they’re never anywhere near the ‘biggest’.

Taylor Swift
I don’t think you know very much about Taylor Swift. When she isn’t making pop slop, she writes and produces the bulk of her material herself. Her second album was entirely self written. Also, her recording engineer is also a woman.

She’s not a good example.
 
I don’t think you know very much about Taylor Swift. When she isn’t making pop slop, she writes and produces the bulk of her material herself. Her second album was entirely self written. Also, her recording engineer is also a woman.

She’s not a good example.

You mean Taylor Swift, the corporate product who didn't show a lick of musical ability or interest growing up, and whose financial-investor father pumped countless dollars into making her famous, no matter the medium?

Whose parents named her Taylor because it was gender-neutral and wouldn't interfere with their agenda for her to become rich and famous?

Who pretended she had a Southern twang for her first few ghost-written albums, which were a launching pad for her to morph into a mainstream pop star?

Who has shown zero interest in anything apart from fleecing her dangerously parasocial cult out of millions of dollars via cheap merch and countless nauseating variants of her artless output?

Who blocks other young female artists from gaining chart traction and topping her existing statistics through bots, chart manipulation, lawsuits, and sudden releases/promo of sub-mediocre singles?

I know quite a bit about this industry fraud.
 
I don’t think you know very much about Taylor Swift. When she isn’t making pop slop, she writes and produces the bulk of her material herself. Her second album was entirely self written. Also, her recording engineer is also a woman.

She’s not a good example.
Seriously? You use ‘when she isn’t making pop slop’ as a bit of a ‘no true Scotsman’ get out clause there, but you’re still talking nonsense. Whether one of her engineers is female or not does nothing to detract from my point:
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Must just really like that Jack Antonoff guy, she’s just giving him a leg up I’m sure, and those career/fortune-making Max Martin singles are just, you know, the cost of doing business. $wifties 4 lyf ❤️
 
Must just really like that Jack Antonoff guy, she’s just giving him a leg up I’m sure, and those career/fortune-making Max Martin singles are just, you know, the cost of doing business. $wifties 4 lyf ❤️
Look at someone like Prince who regularly used to give his "protegés" (and girlfriends with dubious "talents") writing credits because it looked better. However, when his estate released "Originals", it was obvious even down to the adlibs that he wrote and produced every word of those records. Or how someone like Beyoncé got a writing credit for changing the work "Smack" into "Smash". This is an industry based on image. Those behind the scenes will often be willing to do the "change a word, take a third" if it means they're earning millions from it either way.
 
Seriously? You use ‘when she isn’t making pop slop’ as a bit of a ‘no true Scotsman’ get out clause there, but you’re still talking nonsense. Whether one of her engineers is female or not does nothing to detract from my point:
Must just really like that Jack Antonoff guy, she’s just giving him a leg up I’m sure, and those career/fortune-making Max Martin singles are just, you know, the cost of doing business. $wifties 4 lyf ❤️
Hi, Shitlips. T Swizzle STILL won't fuck you or work in your brothel you'll never have.
 
I don't know exactly what but I feel like there's something that can be read into a thing featuring Julie Brown opening with a Madonna cover just as they finished making Dick Tracy, but before Medusa
 
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