Kingdom Come: White Ethnostate - When trying to get a dev fired fails, because he owns the studio.

[The Great Chandler]

I'm disappointed over the fact that the game flopped and that it never really gave us the medieval experience we wanted. On the other hand, the "racism gamergate" salt was the best part.

 

[:thinking:]

I'm disappointed over the fact that the game flopped and that it never really gave us the medieval experience we wanted. On the other hand, the "racism gamergate" salt was the best part.

Did it flop in sales?

 

[MrTroll]

Did it flop in sales?

Not unless they were expecting Skyrim or GTA sales. It's already sold a million copies in under 2 weeks.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Saw this going around in some of my circles.

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I still do not get the OP's point thou... like its clear they wanna do a "haha gotcha, you hypocrite" kinda thing, but what is the "get"?

I think they're trying to say the RPG elements running in the background are unrealistic and therefore the entire game is historically inaccurate.

 

[Ineedahero]

Saw this going around in some of my circles.

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I still do not get the OP's point thou... like its clear they wanna do a "haha gotcha, you hypocrite" kinda thing, but what is the "get"?

They can't believe that body odour could possibly make you more attractive to the opposite sex. Because pheromones are probably a social construct or something.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Did it flop in sales?

It’s sold a cool million in about 2 weeks. So no, it hasn’t by any stretch.

 

[:thinking:]

Not unless they were expecting Skyrim or GTA sales. It's already sold a million copies in under 2 weeks.

It’s sold a cool million in about 2 weeks. So no, it hasn’t by any stretch.

Yeah, that was what I heard as well.
I don’t know what @The Great Chandler meant when he stated that it was a flop.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

It’s sold a cool million in about 2 weeks. So no, it hasn’t by any stretch.

Not doubting this figure, but I am kind of curious how it is derived. I see ~ 500,000 owners on SteamSpy, so another 500,000 on PS4/XBone? Or is SteamSpy not as accurate as I'd like to think?

FWIW, I thought Wokenstein II was considered kind of a flop, but that shows 450,000 owners on SteamSpy. Granted it has been out since October and looks like it went on sale for a bit recently, but KCD hasn't exactly blown it out of the water, at least not yet.

 

[c-no]

Some more Twitter autism starring a black guy who goes on so e long ass tirade on why he won't buy KCD.

I'm on the phone so I can't take screenshots but I'll post an archive later.
https://twitter.com/TheAuracl3/status/968276350938288128

As a bonus: he gets a bit dickish after a known shitposter politely ask what changes he would make.
https://twitter.com/TheAuracl3/status/968443446913617921
Edit: archive
http://archive.is/zkdee

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Not doubting this figure, but I am kind of curious how it is derived. I see ~ 500,000 owners on SteamSpy, so another 500,000 on PS4/XBone? Or is SteamSpy not as accurate as I'd like to think?

FWIW, I thought Wokenstein II was considered kind of a flop, but that shows 450,000 owners on SteamSpy. Granted it has been out since October and looks like it went on sale for a bit recently, but KCD hasn't exactly blown it out of the water, at least not yet.

You need to keep in mind that the game isn’t from a AAA studio and thus has far lower expectations and development overheads, and was kickstarted for most of the development cost.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Yeah, that was what I heard as well.
I don’t know what @The Great Chandler meant when he stated that it was a flop.

I should've said flop. What I meant was that the game was mediocre. They might fix up the game in tbe near future.

 

[Male Idiot]

A lot of people seem to like it. Its not my cup of tea for I prefer way more convienient games.

Too realistic just lends to too much grind for me, but apparently a lot of people like it very much, so I would not say its a flop because you don't like it.

 

[bemeas]

I should've said flop. What I meant was that the game was mediocre. They might fix up the game in tbe near future.

Are you incapable of actually writing properly?

Also, I'm loving the people who are buying the game now that the outrage has died down a bit, despite them whining/being salty before about it. It's almost like a decent game stands well on its own merits.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Are you incapable of actually writing properly?

Also, I'm loving the people who are buying the game now that the outrage has died down a bit, despite them whining/being salty before about it. It's almost like a decent game stands well on its own merits.

Sorry mang. Tired.

 

[OwO What's This?]

!!!ATTENTION GRABBING TEXT!!!

Stop with the debate about the game sales. Salt Mine is about schaudenfreude, entertainment, and making each other laugh, while explicitly avoiding getting into serious arguments. There are other subforums for that.

Making an unsubstantiated claim about something integral to the thread was definitely unwelcome! People are welcome to post curated articles about that. But if you're gonna slapfight at least make it entertaining.

'At least make it entertaining' applies to a lot of things, really.

 

[SaharaSafari]

Medieval POC finally(?) posted something about the game:

They posted an article (http://archive.is/rW7wU). Here are the best bits:

WHEN YOU CREATE SOMETHING, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

That’s not a controversial statement.

“Historical Accuracy” doesn’t absolve anyone from their OWN CREATIVE CHOICES.

Creating a fake, “all-white” version of medieval Europe is inaccurate, and it overtly serves a white supremacist agenda. It’s not an oversight, it is not neutral, AND IT IS NOT “HISTORICALLY ACCURATE”.

The fight against white supremacist misappropriation and misrepresentation of the European middle ages is happening RIGHT Now, and in the past year I’ve been working more closely with academic medievalists teaching right now (including traveling in person to try and help support professors of color being harassed by white supremacists over this), ameliorating the situation as much as I can, which is why I’ve been a bit more scarce on the tumblr blog. I’ve even started doing a few interviews again.

Why they were quiet:

When this game got close to coming out, I had to close my ask box AND submissions, and they are still closed right now because I got tired of being spammed with crime scene photos, nazi slogans, racial slurs, and worse.

But I have no plans to stop sharing works from art history that show that any claims of an “all white” medieval past are nothing but bullshit.

 

[Male Idiot]

Do gypsies count as pocs? If they do, the Balkans can be Wokeanda yet!

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

in shadow of mordor they introduced a black guy , lmao. where's his family & clan. did he just pop up in a Caucasian lore & achieved a high ranking military post. so awkward.

The game specifically mentions he was the son of a Haradrim sultan exchanged with the son of a Lord of Gondor as ransom, which is a well-honored tradition both in parts of Europe and in Middle-Earth. So he has a logical reason to be in the position that he is in (children raised as ransom were meant to be raised as if they were the ransom-taker's own child, so he would be raised as a Lord of Gondor). Now, is he Haradrim so that EA can point to him and say "look, we included a black guy, leave us be SJWs!"? Yes, but he's far and away the least annoying NPC in the game (mostly because he only turns up like twice), as opposed to, say, the stupid ninja elf.
EDIT: On a more general note, if we're going to have diverse characters in games, they should have a reason for it: I'm infinitely more happy with an explanation that makes sense in the game universe rather than "Oh, there's a black Gondorian because there's Gondorians who are black and if you question this you're a bigot!"

 

[Male Idiot]

I honestly have more problems with the orc possessing stuff and all that. I'm sure its more against Tolkien's lore than a single good Haradrim black.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Medieval POC finally(?) posted something about the game:

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"OK, so we can't actually back up any claims about niggas being in Bohemia in the 14th century BUT VAVRA WAS STILL WRONG FOR NOT INCLUDING BLACK PEOPLE! HISTORICAL ACCURACY BE RACIST AND SHEIT AND HE SHOULD HAVE CHOSEN BLACK PEOPLE OVER HISTORICAL ACCURACY!!!!!"