isaac asimov - psychohistory

[NyQuilninja]

The Jew thing being mostly a joke, I have to admit that something that's been stuck in my head for awhile now is the sheer premise and world of The Naked Sun.

A world where human beings are so absolutely repulsed by each other that they isolate themselves to the point where a few seconds of interaction with another person is revolting and traumatizing. The whole thing sounds like a bad SNL sketch about antisocial weirdos. Then his son gets picked up for CP, living alone in some random apartment complex on $3000 a month. Even his prosecutors said he never talked to anyone, never showed interest in anyone, never interacted with anyone unless he had to.

Now we're all living in an age where people don't like venturing outside and everybody under the age of 30 lives on their computer. If The Naked Sun included an edgy hot take on pedophilia, it would pretty much be a snapshot of the actual future we're living in. That book actually scares the shit out of me even worse than 1984 or Brave New World ever could because it seems to be the most accurate and the lunatic who wrote it knows what he was talking about.

Caves of steel was one that struck me as well
....".............
Over thirty of the fifty Outer Worlds, including my native Aurora, were directly colonized by Earthmen. Is colonization no longer possible?” “Well …” “No answer? Let me suggest that if it is no longer possible, it is because of the development of City culture on Earth. Before the Cities, human life on Earth wasn’t so specialized that they couldn’t break loose and start all over on a raw world. They did it thirty times. But now, Earthmen are all so coddled, so enwombed in their imprisoning caves of steel, that they are caught forever.”
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuUdrZOGTTxnegBzLtOSFmKARdrjLYpy4

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Asimov was both a claustrophile and a self described generalist.

 

[UQ 770]

Asimov was both a claustrophile and a self described generalist.

In a way that makes his work almost prophetic since we have indeed ended up in a world that quite resembles what he was envisioning. Now it feels like everyone is like that. Nobody leaves the house and everyone's head is filled with useless trivia.

 

[AnOminous]

Asimov was both a claustrophile

That's pretty autistic. The hugbox is a thing for a reason.

 

[UQ 770]

That's pretty autistic. The hugbox is a thing for a reason.

When your kid ends up like David Asimov, that's pretty much the textbook DSM definition of autism. I once owned one of Isaac Asimov's books of completely useless trivia, literally called Isaac Asimov's Book of Facts, and it was laid out in a way similar to TvTropes or something despite being published in the 1980s. I think this guy predicted autism on the internet.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

When your kid ends up like David Asimov, that's pretty much the textbook DSM definition of autism. I once owned one of Isaac Asimov's books of completely useless trivia, literally called Isaac Asimov's Book of Facts, and it was laid out in a way similar to TvTropes or something despite being published in the 1980s. I think this guy predicted autism on the internet.

He literally thought he was autistic and said his son had been diagnosed as such in the 60s.

Also, he modeled the Caves of Steel and Trantor on NYC. Space Kowloon is probably what we're going to get, though.

 

[AnOminous]

Space Kowloon is probably what we're going to get, though.

That would be pretty cool, though. At least if you could somehow do it without the rats and filth and only the fun crime.

 

[UQ 770]

That would be pretty cool, though. At least if you could somehow do it without the rats and filth and only the fun crime.

Harry Harrison has you covered with Stainless Steel Rats and dropping anvils on robots.

 

[XYZpdq]

iirc Issac said if he hadn't ended up an author he would have liked to be a newsstand/bookseller in an NYC subway station, which to be fair sounds pretty comfy

 

[AnOminous]

iirc Issac said if he hadn't ended up an author he would have liked to be a newsstand/bookseller in an NYC subway station, which to be fair sounds pretty comfy

That way he could watch the trains all day, like a frigging sperg.

 

[NyQuilninja]

You know I wonder how many famous authors are a little bit exceptional. looking into Isaac Asimov he definitely looks like he's on the spectrum.
I bet even Stephen King is to,
definitely Lewis Carroll he was a pedophile sperg

 

[TaimuRadiu]

You don't have to be autistic to be a pedophile.

 

[NyQuilninja]

You don't have to be autistic to be a pedophile.

however in the case of Lewis Carroll he was indeed a pedophile sperg

 

[TaimuRadiu]

however in the case of Lewis Carroll he was indeed a pedophile sperg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=H7mrIJCjTdc

Yeah, when I learned about the story behind the Alice books I was... horrified

 

[UQ 770]

You don't have to be autistic to be a pedophile.

Either way they found way more than just pedo shit when they raided David Asimov's place. Not just fucked up porn, but everything. The guy archived nearly everything he touched. They even tried to use that in his defense since about 3/4ths of the stuff police collected was mundane crap like old TV shows or whatever. Again, saving a bunch of shit is not really uncommon these days since now everyone pirates a mountain of content, but the sheer amount of it is pretty staggering.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Either way they found way more than just pedo shit when they raided David Asimov's place. Not just fucked up porn, but everything. The guy archived nearly everything he touched. They even tried to use that in his defense since about 3/4ths of the stuff police collected was mundane crap like old TV shows or whatever. Again, saving a bunch of shit is not really uncommon these days since now everyone pirates a mountain of content, but the sheer amount of it is pretty staggering.

Could have been some stuff he had that he could presume were legal, like Traci Lords videos or that one movie where Linda Lovelace has sex with a dog or... whatever was advertised in small print in the back pages of Hustler

(I'm not defending this, just pointing out that king autist there might have been unfamiliar with what may or not be legal)

 

[UQ 770]

(I'm not defending this, just pointing out that king autist there might have been unfamiliar with what may or not be legal)

That was pretty much what his defense said, though there were several thousand disks, some 4000 or so, and about 1000 of them contained graphic illegal content. My guess is that David Asimov was running the 1990s equivalent of a torrenting site. Illegal content distribution sites and other smugglers used to proudly display the fact that they would trade you/host anything you wanted to see. Then CP became a huge thing and now everyone has sort of decided to rethink that whole paradigm.

 

[NyQuilninja]

Makes sense
I had friends in high school
that were obsessed which trading files over leapftp
and would download just about anything without checking it first
even AOL clubs and yahoo clubs would have all shorts of random shit
it wasn't uncommon to randomly come across cp

 

[UQ 770]

Makes sense
I had friends in high school
that were obsessed which trading files over leapftp
and would download just about anything without checking it first
even AOL clubs and yahoo clubs would have all shorts of random shit
it wasn't uncommon to randomly come across cp

My depressive personality prevents me from giving David Asimov the benefit of the doubt here though, unless he was so autistic that he trickfucked his computer into having some kind of program where the file would download and them immediately be copied to the disk. I figure that would have come up in his defense trial though.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

That was pretty much what his defense said, though there were several thousand disks, some 4000 or so, and about 1000 of them contained graphic illegal content. My guess is that David Asimov was running the 1990s equivalent of a torrenting site. Illegal content distribution sites and other smugglers used to proudly display the fact that they would trade you/host anything you wanted to see. Then CP became a huge thing and now everyone has sort of decided to rethink that whole paradigm.

>tfw you come across porn images with someone's BBS number on them