Is gender a social construct?

[Fascist Frederick]

There is a bit of a disconnect between how you are perceived and who you are. That is actually MY point. If people perceive you as gay, you are socially gay. That doesn't make you personally gay though.

And MY point is there is no social anything. Gay (in this instance) means a dude having sex with a dude. How can you socially have sex with other dudes but at the same time not have sex with other dudes personally?

 

[Recoil]

If you do enough mental gymnastics, you'll grow a vagina. Keep trying, OP!

 

[traps-aren't-gay]

I have yet to see a single successful sexual reassignment surgery even today.

Did they still have 42% mortality rate back then? Also, having the push to rewrite the definition of gender be a century old doesn't mean that it's not newspeak.

Well back then there was nothing but "turn your dick inside out and dilate for the rest of your life." Surgery has a long way to go before we reach "legit pussy" levels. The best we have now is "we're gonna take a piece of your asshole and put it where your dick used to be" (yes: that's a thing). But the surgical aspect is beyond the point. If people perceive you as a woman, they will treat you as a woman, and at that point: you might as well be a woman.

 

[Occam's Spork]

The actual answer to your question is no, fag.

 

[traps-aren't-gay]

And MY point is there is no social anything. Gay (in this instance) means a dude having sex with a dude. How can you socially have sex with other dudes but at the same time not have sex with other dudes personally?

If society treats them as women, it is not gay.

 

[Fascist Frederick]

If society treats them as women, it is not gay.

That's not what I mean. You said if society treats you gay then you are socially gay, but not personally gay. But if gay means that I have sex with other men, then how can I be socially gay but not personally gay? I would have to exist in a superposition of simultaneously fucking and not fucking men.

My point was that there is no social vs. personal. You are what you are.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Well back then there was nothing but "turn your dick inside out and dilate for the rest of your life." Surgery has a long way to go before we reach "legit pussy" levels. The best we have now is "we're gonna take a piece of your asshole and put it where your dick used to be" (yes: that's a thing). But the surgical aspect is beyond the point. If people perceive you as a woman, they will treat you as a woman, and at that point: you might as well be a woman.

And I gave you a direct response why that's overly broad and autistic. Here's another: If I camouflage myself as a tree so well people who are far away will think I'm a tree, does that mean trees are a social construct?

 

[muh_moobs]

lol no.

Gender =/= "gender roles". Trannies and lefties need to accept that.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

If society treats them as women, it is not gay.

"ITS NOT GAY IF HE WEARS A DRESS, DAD!"

 

[traps-aren't-gay]

That's not what I mean. You said if society treats you gay then you are socially gay, but not personally gay. But if gay means that I have sex with other men, then how can I be socially gay but not personally gay? I would have to exist in a superposition of simultaneously fucking and not fucking men.

My point was that there is no social vs. personal. You are what you are.

How society perceives you is separate from what you are. This is something most people realize in grade school. People have a general idea of who you are without knowing "you" at the most deepest levels.

And I gave you a direct response why that's overly broad and autistic. Here's another: If I camouflage myself as a tree so well people who are far away will think I'm a tree, does that mean trees are a social construct?

To an extent: yes. Read some nietzsche

 

[traps-aren't-gay]

lol no.

Gender =/= "gender roles". Trannies and lefties need to accept that.

What you think of "gender" is actually biological sex. The roles these sexes are assumed to play is "gender."

"ITS NOT GAY IF HE WEARS A DRESS, DAD!"

If it looks like a dude, it's a dude. How hard is this to get across?

 

[muh_moobs]

What you think of "gender" is actually biological sex. The roles these sexes are assumed to play is "gender."

"Gender" and "sex" are synonyms, dumdum.

If it looks like a dude, it's a dude. How hard is this to get across?

If it has a dick it's a dude.

 

[Fascist Frederick]

If it has a dick it's a dude.

XY Chromosomes = Dude. Getting into a tragic boating accident would not turn you into a woman any more than surgery or putting on a dress.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

To an extent: yes. Read some nietzsche

That just proves my point that the definition is broad to being completely pointless.

 

[Occam's Spork]

Everyone give a warm welcome back to Tuscantarder, who has clearly learned exactly jack shit. Same posting style, same arrogance and dismissive attitude, same worthless bait threads.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

"Gender" and "sex" are synonyms, dumdum.

TBF the modern idea of "gender" comes from a mega pedophile faggot named John Money, who thought that if society treated a boy like a woman he would be a woman.

He made some poor kid with a botched circumcision dress as a girl and act like a girl.
Then he made his brother mount the poor kid to teach him how women are to be taken.
They both later killed themselves.

Meanwhile Money's pedophile faggot idea that how society treats someone is more important than what they biologically are has become mainstream and we have demons of Slaanesh inspiring drag queens reading it to children.

My point being biological sex = real; gender = fake & gay

 

[traps-aren't-gay]

"Gender" and "sex" are synonyms, dumdum.

Contradiction=/=argumentation

If it has a dick it's a dude.

Until you realize there's a dick there, how could you tell? That's my point.

XY Chromosomes = Dude. Getting into a tragic boating accident would not turn you into a woman any more than surgery or putting on a dress.

I don't want to bring up Kleinfelters, but Kleinfelters.

TBF the modern idea of "gender" comes from a mega pedophile faggot named John Money, who thought that if society treated a boy like a woman he would be a woman.

He made some poor kid with a botched circumcision dress as a girl and act like a girl.
Then he made his brother mount the poor kid to teach him how women are to be taken.
They both later killed themselves.

Meanwhile Money's pedophile faggot idea that how society treats someone is more important than what they biologically are has become mainstream and we have demons of Slaanesh inspiring drag queens reading it to children.

My point being biological sex = real; gender = fake & gay

money's a pedo. Fuc him.

 

[Computer Guardian]

Until you realize there's a dick there, how could you tell? That's my point.

what about all the other tell tale signs like the semi muscular looking frame, the mannish looking face, the lack of boobs, the effeminate sounding voice and the effort to hide the dick that shows that the trap is a dude?

 

[Positron]

nigga ends with an "r" dipshit. There's not even an "a" in there. Are you on drugs?

Here at Kiwifarms we treat the word "nigga" as the equivalent of "nigger". If you believe in your version of Social Constructionism you'll do likewise.

And I gave you a direct response why that's overly broad and autistic. Here's another: If I camouflage myself as a tree so well people who are far away will think I'm a tree, does that mean trees are a social construct?

To an extent: yes. Read some nietzsche

Educate me. I'm interested in Nietzsche but don't know much. Tell me which of his book or passage expressed this idea please?

 

[traps-aren't-gay]

what about all the other tell tale signs like the semi muscular looking frame, the mannish looking face, the lack of boobs, the effeminate sounding voice and the effort to hide the dick that shows that the trap is a dude?

That brings me back to the basic litmus test:
If it's obviously a dude; it's obviously a dude
If it's obviously a chick; it's obviously a chick
If you're not sure; treat it how it presents itself.