If you're walking down the street and someone offers you a suitcase full of money, do you accept it?

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This is in an area that is not unusual for you or rich people to walk through, there plenty of witnesses hearing your conversation but nobody you recognize. When you ask the guy questions about the money he gives you plausible explanations and assurances but you have no way to verify those claims. The money appears to be real when he shows it to you and is roughly half your annual salary. He has not mistaken you for someone else that he specifically intended to give the money to.

Do you accept the money, or do you walk away?
 
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Why wouldn't you? I do well, but if this happened easy to wash it. (coins) If those dealers take it any dirty/fake money is gone.


t. banker.

Also I'm spending it mostly on guns.
So you're completely rejecting the potential scenario that this is all some big game and the guy has paid the staged witnesses and everyone to claim your robbed him?

Remember that winning the lottery has such low odds that there can be multiple games in a row where not one of the millions of ticket buyers win, and someone going you a suitcase of cash without it being a trick or a scam has even lower odds of happening then that.

I guess what I'm asking is how likely are you to trust the money in such a scenario, where you don't have omnipotent knowledge of the truth of if the money is for real or if the guy plans to screw you over for multiple times the amount of money in the suitcase.


Maybe the money is real, and the guy lost a bet with his friends or some other scenario that's irrelevant.
Maybe he desperately needed you to complete a simple task for him, one that's fully achievable at the time the money is handed over to you.
Maybe the money is fake or only the top bills are real, and aside from you being pranked there isn't much consequences for you
Maybe a month later it turns out he did something sketchy or framed you as stealing from him and you'll have to pay back every cent, or maybe even more and you end up in jail.

There's just no way to know for certain, but it certainly seems plausible that he's just giving you the money with no demands or restrictions.
 
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So you're completely rejecting the potential scenario that this is all some big game and the guy has paid the staged witnesses and everyone to claim your robbed him?

Remember that winning the lottery has such low odds that there can be multiple games in a row where not one of the millions of ticket buyers win, and someone going you a suitcase of cash without it being a trick or a scam has even lower odds of happening then that.

I guess what I'm asking is how likely are you to trust the money in such a scenario, where you don't have omnipotent knowledge of the truth of if the money is for real or if the guy plans to screw you over for multiple times the amount of money in the suitcase.


Maybe the money is real, and the guy lost a bet with his friends or some other scenario that's irrelevant.
Maybe he desperately needed you to complete a simple task for him, one that's fully achievable at the time the money is handed over to you.
Maybe the money is fake or only the top bills are real, and aside from you being pranked there isn't much consequences for you
Maybe a month later it turns out he did something sketchy or framed you as stealing from him and you'll have to pay back every cent, or maybe even more and you end up in jail.

There's just no way to know for certain, but it certainly seems plausible that he's just giving you the money with no demands or restrictions.
these hypotheticals only work if you accept the premises as true. coming back and creating reasons why they wouldn't be true makes the hypothetical stupid.

"well maybe the money is actually fake or it was taken during a crime or actually hes gonna say you robbed him later".

this is dumb


id take the cash and wash it at the casino 6-7k at a time.
 
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these hypotheticals only work if you accept the premises as true. coming back and creating reasons why they wouldn't be true makes the hypothetical stupid.

"well maybe the money is actually fake or it was taken during a crime or actually hes gonna say you robbed him later".

this is dumb
I never said “oh actually the money was fake or stolen the entire time” the entire time I had been saying that you don’t have omniscient knowledge of the scenario and so you don’t know for a certified fact wether or not the money is safe or not.

Granted now I understand why people fall for loans that have a daily fee. With this I was asking if people would happily take a scenario at face value and not even consider the fact that they don’t know the truth of what’s going on and might get screwed over hard because they didn’t bother to ask questions. Or is it just that I’m far more distrusting of unexpected scenarios to the point where I would lose out when others would happily dive right in and profit from it.
 
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I never said “oh actually the money was fake or stolen the entire time” the entire time I had been saying that you don’t have omniscient knowledge of the scenario and so you don’t know for a certified fact wether or not the money is safe or not.

Granted now I understand why people fall for loans that have a daily fee. With this I was asking if people would happily take a scenario at face value and not even consider the fact that they don’t know the truth of what’s going on and might get screwed over hard because they didn’t bother to ask questions.
your original post made for an interesting scenario. your follow up post with the maybes is dogshit and took the fun out of it. specifically the
"maybe the money is fake or only the top bills is real takes the threat out of a random briefcase of money."

the other stuff isn't as egregious because its inherent to the mystery bag of money scenario except in this case the guy is intentially giving it to you and no one recognizes you.

there is no penalty in this scenario you crafted.
 
your original post made for an interesting scenario. your follow up post with the maybes is dogshit and took the fun out of it. specifically the
"maybe the money is fake or only the top bills is real takes the threat out of a random briefcase of money."

the other stuff isn't as egregious because its inherent to the mystery bag of money scenario except in this case the guy is intentially giving it to you and no one recognizes you.

there is no penalty in this scenario you crafted.
The scenario never explicitly said there was no penalty, but it definitely was worded in a way that didn’t exclude any possible penalty. I never said the guy was being honest and the money was free and clear, I said that he sounded convincing.
 
The scenario never explicitly said there was no penalty, but it definitely was worded in a way that didn’t exclude any possible penalty. I never said the guy was being honest and the money was free and clear, I said that he sounded convincing.
it doesn't have to. its written vaguely enough it can be inferred. For example, "an area where it wouldn't be unusual for me or rich people to walk through" describes a lot of areas and it specifically describes a lot of areas i visit once and never go back to. so meeting this guy or his confederates again is near zero. Maybe i'm on a trip.

if the money is fake then so what?

if by chance he finds me and says i stole it from him, so what? this is the first time i met him. he calls the cops, i tell them the same and i tell them how dumb his suitcase of money story sounds. if he came by that money through crime, he's fucked. if he came by it honestly, he's still fucked.


once you start down this road of adding maybes, the hypothetical is no fun.

the only real issue with having large amounts of cash is laundering it without going through too many hoops.

Why wouldn't you? I do well, but if this happened easy to wash it. (coins) If those dealers take it any dirty/fake money is gone.


t. banker.

Also I'm spending it mostly on guns.
coins sound heavy and a lot of work.
even casinos have kyc regulations, including tribal ones. its just a pain all around. maybe ill pay the taxes on it call it a day.
 
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So you're completely rejecting the potential scenario that this is all some big game and the guy has paid the staged witnesses and everyone to claim your robbed him?
Was the question was just a rhetorical device so you could type out the lecture I didn't read which followed this sentence? Very lame if so. Might as well have just put your heart on your sleeve and preach your truth from the beginning. I might have read it then.
 
I would want to know why.

If I am satisfied with the answer, I might take it.

For example, if it's a marketing stunt from the homeless lobby, trying to make people think they have a chance the bum at the corner of the street might give them money instead of asking for some. I would be happy to participate then.

The most likely scenario though, is I would just have said "no thank you" the moment he approached me before he said a word. Actually, now that I think of it, I probably missed out on many suitcases full of money random bums were trying to give me.

In all seriousness, I don't think I would take it. It's sketchy and it feels like a scam. There is no good reason for it not to be a con in one way or the other.
 
I wouldn't. I don't know the origin of the cash, i don't know if there's people looking for it, if there are trackers on the briefcase... There's a lot of things that could go wrong with this before you even get to spend it

Nobody's gonna just give you money for free. Some of you niggers have 0 survival instincts
 
I wouldn't. I don't know the origin of the cash, i don't know if there's people looking for it, if there are trackers on the briefcase... There's a lot of things that could go wrong with this before you even get to spend it

Nobody's gonna just give you money for free. Some of you niggers have 0 survival instincts
I genuinely do not understand people whose knee-jerk response to being offered any amount of kindness is not wary, possibly armed, suspicion

I’d question why someone is offering a tissue after I sneezed on a bad day
 
I genuinely do not understand people whose knee-jerk response to being offered any amount of kindness is not wary, possibly armed, suspicion

I’d question why someone is offering a tissue after I sneezed on a bad day
Let's be clear here, if I walked down the street and someone offered to give me 100$ I'd be happy to accept. But once you go into "suitcase full of cash" then we went past the realm of ordinary goodwill and it will be stupid not to think it's illegal or a prank.
 
To quote one of my favorite arthouse films. "Nothing's free in Waterworld."
 
Let's be clear here, if I walked down the street and someone offered to give me 100$ I'd be happy to accept. But once you go into "suitcase full of cash" then we went past the realm of ordinary goodwill and it will be stupid not to think it's illegal or a prank.
Friend, if you’re willing to accept a hundo without considering what the follow up is going to be that’s on you, but the power of the US dollar is way too strong for me to act like I’m being handed a fiver for coffee. Someone hands me a hundred I’m worried about who they want hurt or which of my holes they’re eyeing
 
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