How to prevent bad parenting and encourage good parenting?

[AMHOLIO]

What's the best way to make people better parents, and what's the best way to keep people who shouldn't parent away from parenting?


A few points:
It's hard to make state mandated programs since everyone has different versions of parenting, and not everyone wants to be told what to do.

Religion is a common answer, but there comes times where people take all their Bible teachings and use it to become nasty (see: the Duggars, Quiverful movement, and other notable bad people using religious justifications for bad behavior). If you can figure out a way within your religion or denomination on how to prevent it.

This is a huge topic because the best way to make a good parent is for them to have parents who are good. It's a long and arduous process that requires a lot of change over a long period of time.

Discuss!

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

You could raise a kid literally perfectly and all it'd take is one grooming troon on the internet or one bad influence in real life and it's all down the drain. Like much else in life, you do what you can and the remaining 70% is up to RNG.

 

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What's the best way to make people better parents

they should take a course provided by the state to check if they are fit for parenting.

and what's the best way to keep people who shouldn't parent away from parenting?

taking their children away by child protection services or having them castrated and their unborn child aborted if possible.

 

[Lady Bizness]

Severely reduce social handouts and subsidize all types of birth control.
I work in education. You can't help people who are bad parents.

 

[Gandhi's Left Hook]

Severely reduce social handouts and subsidize all types of birth control.
I work in education. You can't help people who are bad parents.

I agree that giving handouts rewards bad parenting and should be severely limited to those who fell on hard times, not the perpetual losers. That wont stop all of the bad parents though. The rich are often horrible parents as well and have the money and influence to hide all but the most horrendous actions from the police.

Having been raised by people who should not have had children, I've thought about this a lot. I've come to the coclusion that there is no answer. It's impossible to control the world. The best thing one can do is focus on what they can control and be as decent of a human being as possible to others.

 

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You could raise a kid literally perfectly and all it'd take is one grooming troon on the internet or one bad influence in real life and it's all down the drain. Like much else in life, you do what you can and the remaining 70% is up to RNG.

You don't even need to rationalize it with an external influence. You can raise your kid perfectly, and they can still turn out to be fucked up.

Just like you can not raise your kids and/or provide them with a hellish childhood and have them turn into great people and parents.

But most of the time, a good or a bad childhood will carry on to parenthood skills of your offspring.

Outliers are just that.

Thing is, there is a conflict of interest in some way. A good parent would want to provide for the child, and would probably budget it as a conscious decision. They will average 2.5 or so kids, because that's what most people can realistically afford to support while maintaining quality of life.

A bad parent will pump them out without a second thought.

Now, you need population growth to sustain the economical system. So you're kind of stuck in a situation where you need to welcome bad parents who will be providing consumers, workers and tax payers (I know optimistic).

Taxes is really the way to go if you want to encourage procreation of better parents, I think. By providing greater incentives to the middle of the pack, you might offset the lower end.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Having been raised by people who should not have had children, I've thought about this a lot. I've come to the coclusion that there is no answer. It's impossible to control the world. The best thing one can do is focus on what they can control and be as decent of a human being as possible to others.

This is a good, honest answer. People were more ready and willing to want to punish these parents after they already had fucked up instead of figuring out what to do with their aftermath in the other thread. Yeah, it's easy to come up with punishments for bad parents. But it is also useless if the damage is done, and the grown child can't recognize that they need to change. They ain't having any more babies, they already produced a jackass, what now? It's much harder and more thought provoking to figure outthe best way to educate others and prevent those who should never be parents with like, condoms and shit. Doesn't mean that they'll use them, but you know.

 

[Butterschmalz]

I am a parent. I dont usually give out parenting advice and dont accept any. Just trying to do the best I can the rest is up to the lord.

Good parenting. Knowing other parents in my kids school I can only say you are already in the top 10 if you can stay sober, married and have a drivers licence.

Also never try to teach a father how to fuck, as they say in Eastern Europe. If you re not paying my mortgage which is a roofs over my kids head, I will not accept any advice from you.

 

[grump]

An end to all the 'for the children' surveillance and bans nonsense.

 

[Token Faggot]

There is actually an existing programme in place which provides a good template for a wider rollout with government support - Project Prevention

Project Prevention website

Wikipedia short description

Project Prevention (formerly Children Requiring a Caring Kommunity or CRACK) is an American non-profit organization that pays drug addicts cash for volunteering for long-term birth control, including sterilization. Originally based in California and now based in North Carolina, the organization began operating in the United Kingdom in 2010. The organization offers US$300 (£200 in the UK) to each participant. Barbara Harris founded the organization in 1997 after she and her husband adopted the fifth, sixth, seventh, and eighth child of a drug-addicted mother. As of July 2024, the organization had paid 8,122 people

Integrating this with medical, justice and welfare sectors would be extremely beneficial to society. Preventing violent criminals and addicts from being parents will take the very worst parents out of action and break the cycle to a large extent

 

[Feraljak]

Abolish child support, welfare for single parents, and no-fault divorce to force people to be more careful about selecting who raises their future offspring. Also sterilise drug addicts and the mentally ill. Parents who habitually hit and/or emotionally abuse their children should have them taken away.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

I'm sorry to see that this thread is spiraling into The Eugenics Zone, but I also have an opinion on eugenics and want to share it. It would solve most of our problems if we introduced universal basic income but made it mandatory to get snipped if you want to receive it. One generation of Shape Store useless gooners and drug addicts later (oh yeah, legalize drugs too) and your civilization is golden.

As to your question of how to encourage good parenting, I have always thought that pedagogy is one of the most difficult subjects to ever exist. What even is good parenting? You have to ride the razor's edge of strictness vs permissiveness, because any microscopic excess in either direction can have disastrous consequences for the child. I think it truly does take a village to raise a child. There is no way a mother and father, no matter how good or intelligent, can be up to the task.

 

[Afinepickle]

It's actually, unfortunately impossible.
I've seen too many well intentioned but shitty parents fuck up their kids who then go on to repeat the same shitty parenting techniques ad Infinium. Point out where and how they're fucking up and all you accomplish is pissing them off making them double down.
Most humans, I.E. the 80-90% of normies out there are sentient but not sapient. They are creatures of repetition and mimicry. Monkey see-Monkey do. That's all they know.
Your best bet is to leave that shit alone when you see it because you will only make it worse and when you see 'good' parenting encourage the behavior in your friend group. This is the best you can do.
When it comes to the world of 130+ IQs and terminal autistics that are immune to social conditioning because we simply never understood it to begin with all we can do, if we ever do procreate, is emulate good practices and hope our offspring does the same should and if they have kids of their own.

 

[saturated trans fats]

You could raise a kid literally perfectly and all it'd take is one grooming troon on the internet or one bad influence in real life and it's all down the drain. Like much else in life, you do what you can and the remaining 70% is up to RNG.

Part of good parenting would be to teach your kids not to talk with trannies online.