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USHillary Clinton calls Electoral College an 'abomination' in Netflix doc - Netflix's five-part docuseries, streaming now, also features former Vice President Mike Pence recalling how Trump asked him to overturn the 2020 Election.
Netflix's "The American Experiment" serves as both a crash course in U.S. history and a reflection on the state of American democracy as the nation nears its 250th anniversary.
The five-part docuseries, directed by Brian Knappenberger with Tom Hanks as executive producer, offers novice history buffs an extensive look into the establishment of American democracy. Similar to Ken Burns' "The American Revolution," viewers are taken on a journey through the country's early beginnings from George Washington’s adolescence and the signing of the Declaration of Independence to the ratification of the Bill of Rights and the Jan. 6 riots on the U.S. Capitol.
The new series teeters on a bipartisan ledge, carefully including conversations with political figures like former vice presidents Kamala Harris, Mike Pence, Al Gore; former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Republican Senator Ted Cruz. It also includes notable figures like Cherokee Nation principal chief Chuck Hoskin Jr. and state senators Lisa Blunt Rochester, Rand Paul and Ron Wyden.
Along with the good, the docuseries explores the unanticipated cracks in America's history, such as the nation's inhumane evils like slavery and the exclusion of Indigenous nations from policy, and its lasting impact.
Here are five takeaways from Netflix's "American Experiment."
Hilary Clinton Shares Choice Words About the Electoral College
Hilary Clinton still has strong feelings about losing the 2016 presidential race, particularly about the final tally of electoral college votes. “Well, I personally think the Electoral College is an abomination,” Clinton said, with a laugh, “For obvious reasons.”
In Episode 3, she discusses Alexander Hamilton's warnings of demagogic leaders and the founding fathers' creation of the Electoral College, a contested voting body which scholars have called "a compromise on top of a compromise."
Despite winning the popular vote in 2016, Clinton lost the Electoral College vote to Trump, which ultimately secured his victory. This has only occurred in four other cases: in 1824, 1876, 1888 and 2000.
“It’s a very bizarre feeling to know that nearly three million more people voted for you," Clinton said, "and a relic of compromises from the Constitutional Convention is going to prevent you from becoming president."
Mike Pence addresses the 2020 Election Results
In the final episode, Mike Pence recounts the moment President Donald Trump asked him to overturn the 2020 election results. Despite cries of a rigged election and a Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol, Pence acknowledged he didn't have unilateral power in a letter to members of Congress, defied the president and certified the election.
"I'll always believe that I did my duty that day," Pence said. "To see to the peaceful transfer of power under the Constitution of the United States."
Pence said he drew inspiration from former Vice President Al Gore, who similarly lost the election and ratified the vote.
"My only purpose was to keep my oath," Pence added.
What Did Kamala Harris Say?
The former vice president focused on the debates that defined the country's founding and its ramifications on the present-day United States, omitting details about her 2024 presidential race.
In Episode 3, Harris discussed the early arrogance of the founding fathers who made proposals for America's independence and questioned who was entitled to freedom.
“When we talk about power… I still also believe in the power of our people to speak up and speak out against the abuses that they see,” Harris said.
Martin Sheen Voices George Washington
Martin Sheen, who famously plays President Josiah "Jed" Bartlet in "The West Wing," voices George Washington within the docuseries.
Voicing the first president of the United States is a unique casting that would pleasantly surprise fans of the nineties political drama who are eager to hear the "Grace and Frankie" actor in another presidential role.
Ted Cruz Quotes 'The Godfather,' Lisa Blunt Rochester Believes in the American Experiment
By the end of the docuseries, Ted Cruz references his favorite movie, "The Godfather," and the opening line, "I believe in America." He later alludes to his upbringing as the son of a Cuban immigrant, who was imprisoned, tortured, and upon arriving in Texas, washed dishes, making 50 cents an hour.
"When I was sworn into office in January of 2013, I stood on the floor of the Senate," Cruz said. "My hand was on my father’s Bible. In the gallery was my father looking down. He had tears running down his face and he said that day, ‘Only in America.’”
As the docuseries examines the country's 250th anniversary, it also questions whether the country can withstand growing partisanship and pressure. For Senator Lisa Blunt Rochester, who fights back tears in the episodes, the experiment is incomplete.
"Are we for some of us, or are we for all of us?" Rochester asked. "I’m not going to lean back. I’m not going to quit. I’m not going to stop. Democracy is worth it. It’s worth it.”
I remember 2008 being a serious election, and we know this because technically, it wasn't Barack Obama's "turn". But he still absolutely trounced Hillary everywhere he went.
It wasn't a serious election, but the primary for the DNC definitely was. Hillary had nobody fooled. Even Far Left Boomers with wool over their eyes understood damn well that Hillary was trash. I was taught in school at a very young age to be wary of her. No other politician necessarily, just her. Talking about specific politicians was not something done back then, but exceptions were made specifically for Hillary. There's a reason Donald Trump won the first time. Hillary really is THAT unpopular.
What were their options? Trump, the fascist dictator elected twice or Biden, who probably can’t remember his own name and couldn’t answer any question about his “presidency.”
The fact they talked to her at all shows how badly the left is turning to full authoritarian. That cunt didn’t win anything and she’s there critiquing the founding fathers?!?
Yeah you sure did, faggot. You did your job so well that Congress took away the Vice President's ability to dispute elections... after you (Pence) said you could not do such a thing.
Mike Pence has really settled into his role as "useful idiot" for these people. And if anyone in the democratic party is really opposed to the electorate college concept, how about getting rid of the delegate system for the democratic party presidential nomination first?
But the same people who scream about the electoral college are not going to give up a per-state delegate-based selection system for presidential candidates in the democratic party.
Like with all things snake tongued Dems have an opinion of, if Hillary had won the election and it was thanks to the EC she would be calling it a "cornerstone of our democracy."
Hillary Clinton was a positively disastrous candidate. It seems like the political class and their cronies were the only ones who didn't care to see it.
I've said before that everything aside, if I knew nothing about HRC, not her history, not her politics, not the pile of bodies, nothing. We learned everything we needed to know about her on Election Night when she couldn't even look her supporters in the eyes and give the "Thank you for all your hard work, we'll get them next time, it isn't the end of the world, go home and hug your kids, and America is still the greatest nation on Earth" speech. She send David Axelrod out to give her speech instead.
Boo hoo. So you figured your election would be a coronation and decided not to strategize according to the rules at play rather than the rules you wanted?
Hillary Clinton says "SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WON'T YOU CHUDS OUTSIDE OF DC, NEW YORK, LOS ANGELES AND CHICAGO ACCEPT THE DECISIONS OF YOUR BETTERS SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
We learned everything we needed to know about her on Election Night when she couldn't even look her supporters in the eyes and give the "Thank you for all your hard work, we'll get them next time, it isn't the end of the world, go home and hug your kids, and America is still the greatest nation on Earth" speech. She send David Axelrod out to give her speech instead.
It was even worse behind the scenes. She spent the last month of her campaign planning the bestest party ever when she won. She was working with special effects companies to create a glass ceiling effect for the convention center when she won. She and her body-servant Huma spent alot of time getting things like the napkins for the party just right.
Her style in dealing with her campaign has been described as similar to how the Emperor in Star Wars dealt with things. Basically all remote and at a distance as a silent figure of menace. She would either send her Chancellor (Huma) with instructions or She & Bill would get on a phone call with the campaign. Bill always had to be there because Hillary couldn't handle running anything big without him being involved.
Then came election night. The coronation was all going as planned until the first votes came in. When the votes didn't match up with their projections, Hillary threw all the media out, closed the doors and went into a sort of paranoid lockdown in her bunker. The campaign people outside the bunker were not communicated with and not given any instructions. The media was confused because they were not receiving any of the usual messaging about how to cover the election from the campaign.
Accounts differ. But the general account is that Hillary did what Hillary does best. She got really angry, pointed fingers, yelled at Bill and felt sorry for herself for the rest of the evening. She couldn't believe that she could lose.....and then she did.
She didn't go out that night supposedly because they never prepared anything for her to say if she lost and she isn't someone who can speak to a crowd without every word prepared ahead of time on a teleprompter. And she also looked like shit because of her constant emotional spiral all night.
Stories again differ, but in some of them David Axelrod in the absence the Clintons being able to make any decision on what to do, just says he is going out there to the convention center to tell people to go home.
That night and the campaign did kind of say it all about why she should never be president: Thin skinned, not a people person, angry, bitter, paranoid, self-isolating, not able to handle bad news, not able to deal with a crisis and totally dependent on her husband in a really absurd way.
She lost in 2016 for the same reasons she lost the nomination to Obama in 2008 and for the same reasons her health care plan failed in the 1990s. She just isn't suited to politics.
I was hellla lib back then, but I remember my friends and I hated Hilary and would make fun of her campaign. The pokemon go to the polls? Lena Dunahm wearing a Hilary cheer outfit and rolling around obesely in her yard? Like that campaign had zero aura. I felt gross voting for her, it actually made me realize you don't have to vote if you think both candidates are abominations, all that "not voting is an insult to your ancestors" shit is trash.
That night and the campaign did kind of say it all about why she should never be president: Thin skinned, not a people person, angry, bitter, paranoid, self-isolating, not able to handle bad news, not able to deal with a crisis and totally dependent on her husband in a really absurd way.
What I think is very telling is all of the media that was supposed to be covering the election night festivities at Camp Clinton have never been released, leaked, or even hinted at. We all know the media was there with cameras and photographers, and reporters, and we do have pictures of the crying supporters as it became clear she wasn't going to be president, but we have nothing from behind the scenes at all. None of the reporters have ever said anything, which is interesting to me. So either she was completely hammered or off the rails angry or downright physically abusive towards Bill and everyone else and all of that footage was confiscated and NDAs were handed out like candy on pain of being Arkansided.
By the end of the docuseries, Ted Cruz references his favorite movie, "The Godfather," and the opening line, "I believe in America." He later alludes to his upbringing as the son of a Cuban immigrant, who was imprisoned, tortured, and upon arriving in Texas, washed dishes, making 50 cents an hour.
What I think is very telling is all of the media that was supposed to be covering the election night festivities at Camp Clinton have never been released, leaked, or even hinted at. We all know the media was there with cameras and photographers, and reporters, and we do have pictures of the crying supporters as it became clear she wasn't going to be president, but we have nothing from behind the scenes at all. None of the reporters have ever said anything, which is interesting to me. So either she was completely hammered or off the rails angry or downright physically abusive towards Bill and everyone else and all of that footage was confiscated and NDAs were handed out like candy on pain of being Arkansided.
That campaign was just bratty, entitled children all the way down.
I remember one woman I know who was "literally shaking and crying" and couldn't handle the idea that Clinton wasn't going to be President to the point where she suggested that Clinton voters were being "silenced". I asked her that if the election results could be magically overturned, wouldn't that just be silencing Trump voters? She told me that she didn't like that question to the point where she deleted it from the thread she wrote her thoughts on.
And then later I heard from a mutual friend that she was talking shit about me to other mutual friends.
