Do You Want Kids? - General "Have Kids!" Sperging Thread [for or against that sentiment]

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I want kids partly because I know that I'll come to deeply regret not having them when I'm much older. I'm just scared that I might fuck up along the way and have them resent me when they grow up or have them end up dead in some freak accident that I could have avoided. This all might just be my anxiety getting the better of me though.

The "they're a pain in the ass" and "they're too expensive" arguments are just shit that comes with everything in life. It sounds too much like whining.
 
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Antinatalists are nihilist retards who had a shit life and now believe that everyone else's life must be as shit as theirs and therefore everyone's suffering must be relieved by never existing to begin with. You made nothing of yourself, so you think no one can make anything of themselves, so you don't think anyone should have the chance to exist and make anything of themselves.

r/antinatalism is the most cancerous hive of autism on the internet. Antinatalists should set a good example and kill themselves.
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This is almost always the reason, spot on. Tragic really, as even thinking that way is a decent indication that the person is unlikely to repeat the mistakes and errors of their parents. Either that, or the person is such a selfish, vapid fuck that they'd rather consoom and ho around rather than make something solid and decent. The women who espouse such views are generally (and unsurprisingly) shitty people to date in general.

As for me, I want to say yes. But there's also something which tells me it probably won't end up happening for me. I'm already early thirties, and white women in Bongland are just zero-sum prospects for playing the long game with (see my post on 'which race wouldn't you date?') I'm soon leaving the country, so prospects will increase thereafter. Realistically, I reckon I've got 5 - 8 years to lock something good down, at which point my chances fall off dramatically.

But I'm pretty anti-social and autistic in my own ways. These days I just like working out, studying, and grinding on my own. I love having women around, but I tend to enter 'solitary mode' quite regularly and arbitrarily, where I just want to be alone and do my own thing. Is that kind of mindset conducive to living with a woman AND children? I don't know. Maybe I'll change in a few years, or maybe I'll just become even more set in my ways. Hard to say. I'm also not done living yet, and have shit I want to accomplish before becoming a family man. I guess I'll have to balance being prudent with wanting to fulfil my own goals and dreams.

As an aside, I do have quite a few male friends in their mid-thirties who are single and in many ways grown-ass man-children. I just don't see it happening for them at all, which is in some way quite sad. But if women today are socialised to be nothing more than fun cock-sleeves, I guess they aren't missing out on much anyway. So much easier for such men to retire into videogames, porn, and the consoomer mindset.
 
For a long time I wanted kids but as I've gotten older I've had to accept that it's not something I'll get to experience, and honestly the past few years have made me think that maybe that isn't such a bad thing. The values and culture I was raised in and would like to pass on to my children are outright under attack and rapidly disappearing. There are significant hurdles that I still don't have the faintest idea of how to overcome, and even if I did in not sure there's much of a point when hostile forces and the slow creep of decay are already at the gate and show no sign of stopping.
 
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I don't. I used to. I like the idea of being a father. I like the idea of being a husband too. However, I don't want be either of those anymore. I wouldn't be a good father or husband anyway. I grew up with a dysfunctional, and now broken, family. I've got too many of my own issues to work on, so it wouldn't be fair to any kids if I was their father. There are enough fucked-up families in the world already. I don't want to be another number in that statistic.
 
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I love kids and have wanted my own for a long time, it's just finding someone that's been difficult, and apparently given my size, that's like the number one worry my parents and grandparents have (in both finding a husband and having healthy babies). As I near 30, as someone who has a big family and always wanted a big family of my own, that dream becomes less and less likely to happen every day. I won't lie that that's been depressing me.

I know the world's shitty and kids are being targeted more than ever, but that hasn't discouraged me from still wanting to be a mother.
 
Yeah, I'm in a full blown biological clock ticking panic. A very animalistic fear I just choose to call existential. I have a bunch of well thought out reasons for wanting children, but the simplest one is knowing I'd kill myself at forty-something if I ended up not having them.
 
Maybe, leaning towards no. I think there's an embedded desire to have them for various reasons that others have stated. On the other hand I don't think I'd make for a good father, and frankly I think it would be unfair or something to the kid. Since I'd want to be around for the kid instead of the "just gone off for a pack of cigarettes at the corner store" types, you see the problem. I don't look forward to having a kid in the future either due to how the future looks. Every generation says this, but for me I don't want to bring someone up who's going to be expected to embrace insane stuff as normal like troons, the real life Tumblrization of everything, and whatever other insanity we're hurdling toward.
 
For the foreseeable future - no.

I also sometimes tend to have eugenically mindset, and wish there was a way, such as in the case of a lot of these cows to prevent incredible stupid or irresponsible people from having kids.
 
Do I want kids? Eventually.

Do I want to raise them in the west? Oh fuck no.
 
I don't particularly want them, but it's not off the table if my guy wants them. As someone cursed with The Gay, it's not like I can accidentally have them after all. I'm sure I'd be an imperfect parent. I don't think I'd do a half bad job considering my upbringing wasn't full of doom and abuse and whatever other baggage people have. Plus the amount I bitch about other peoples' shitty parenting would force me to put my complaining to the proof. Having kids isn't something you should endlessly analyze or agonize over. Nobody's "ready" to be a parent. You just do it and raise your damn kids to the best of your ability, and hope you do a good enough job that you raise functional adults who eventually forgive your flaws and strive to make fewer mistakes than you did.

Problem is, gay guys are hissing ku-weenz, shameless sex pests, dripping with cluster B personality disorders, needy manchildren begging for parenting themselves, or are douchebros who couldn't imagine their lives revolving around anything other than their dicks and partying. Kids are putting the cart before the horse. A responsible human male who isn't a couch potato or a flaming egomaniac, and likes other men? In THIS clown world? Yeah right, that's a reach.
 
Yup.

I know the world isn't necessarily ideal right now, but I would still like to try.
 
I have one child. I do not regret it and he has been my greatest motivation to make something of myself and leave a lasting impact on the world. I love him so much and I'm determined to give him everything he deserves so he has a good start to life. We want to buy a country home and live sustainably so he can enjoy clean air, grow food with us, raise some animals, go to a small town school, and have a connection to the earth and the family home.

I think the greatest power children give you is the opportunity to heal the hurts you received as a child yourself, and to magnify the strengths of your family tree. You learn so much from raising children and he has already given me a reason to do my best every day. I'm still on a long road of coming to terms with my upbringing but I choose to stop the cycle of negativity and bring something new to the table with my awareness while my son grows up in our home.

I'm not perfect as a parent but I recognise the huge responsibility of raising a resilient child who brings light to the world. I'm optimistic that even when he fucks up, as most people do, that he will learn how to pick himself up without needing me to do it for him and know that he is still loved while he learns to navigate life. The effort I put into him now will be felt for generations after him.

New lines of children brought up with love, knowledge, boundaries, freedom of expression, kindness, responsibility, awareness of their ancestors, creativity, and security of the home will be the change we want to see decades from now. Children brought up with the opposite of the former will continue to perpetuate violence, hatred, addiction, abuse, neglect, broken families, crime, lack of education, lost potential, and echoes of hurt in their homes, communities, and countries until someone in their tree decides to change things for the better.

I'd like one or two more children when my son is at school and I'm better off financially. I genuinely enjoy being a mother and I'm certain that our family will be rewarded for our investment in them with a stable family and memories of love to treasure forever.
 
Even knowing that I will fuck up with my children (if they are to exist) I would still have them, accepting that bad things happen and sometimes there's nothing you can do it stop it is part of life. If you were to raise children I would recommend that you move far away from big cities and not give them access to any technology for most of their life, only giving them Psilocybin and repeating the entire lore of the elder scrolls to them for a reference of the outside world.
 
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I have one child. I do not regret it and he has been my greatest motivation to make something of myself and leave a lasting impact on the world. I love him so much and I'm determined to give him everything he deserves so he has a good start to life. We want to buy a country home and live sustainably so he can enjoy clean air, grow food with us, raise some animals, go to a small town school, and have a connection to the earth and the family home.

I think the greatest power children give you is the opportunity to heal the hurts you received as a child yourself, and to magnify the strengths of your family tree. You learn so much from raising children and he has already given me a reason to do my best every day. I'm still on a long road of coming to terms with my upbringing but I choose to stop the cycle of negativity and bring something new to the table with my awareness while my son grows up in our home.

I'm not perfect as a parent but I recognise the huge responsibility of raising a resilient child who brings light to the world. I'm optimistic that even when he fucks up, as most people do, that he will learn how to pick himself up without needing me to do it for him and know that he is still loved while he learns to navigate life. The effort I put into him now will be felt for generations after him.

New lines of children brought up with love, knowledge, boundaries, freedom of expression, kindness, responsibility, awareness of their ancestors, creativity, and security of the home will be the change we want to see decades from now. Children brought up with the opposite of the former will continue to perpetuate violence, hatred, addiction, abuse, neglect, broken families, crime, lack of education, lost potential, and echoes of hurt in their homes, communities, and countries until someone in their tree decides to change things for the better.

I'd like one or two more children when my son is at school and I'm better off financially. I genuinely enjoy being a mother and I'm certain that our family will be rewarded for our investment in them with a stable family and memories of love to treasure forever.
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Post worthy of the a "winner" sticker, best of luck through the rest of your life Internet person
 
Idk, a kid is what made me ok with being a nothing who will accomplish nothing and die and be forgotten. It has made me a better person, understanding that things I do actually matter.
 
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Naw I'm in my early 20s, I'm still a kid myself even if I have shitty apartment and bills :smug: It'll probably change in my late 20s/early 30s. My only goal for now is to get my Engineering degree. Once I get that stupid BA certificate, things will start looking up for this ol nig nog for sho ;)

My greatest fear though is my kid becoming a Lol Cow Troon. If that day comes, please allow me to write their OP. I'll provide the dox, no need for the autism.

If their gay and chill we can still be homies 😎
 
I know its power level, but I have 2 and they give you a love you never felt before. But children are hard work and take a lot of time and effort that honestly not everyone is up for. I am glad that people actually wait and decide not to if they dont, because children need parents that are 100% in it. It always angers me when horribly shitty people keep having children and subject them to trauma ect. Also about the nothing child comments, not everyone in life becomes a huge something or successful, you do not and should not go into parenting hoping to gain something from them other than hopefully a loving relationship.
 
I don't consider having kids the answer to any of the big questions in life. Rather, I think that by having kids, you'll be too busy living life to even ask yourself any of the big questions.

Yes, you'll have less freedom. Yes, you'll be "used up" by your wife and kids. But honestly I can't think of a better way for my energy to be used up.

That said, I would never shame anyone for not wanting kids. If you don't have that inner desire innately already, then yeah you would probably make a shitty parent.

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Full disclosure - first kid on the way this Autumn, so this has been on my mind quite a bit recently!
 
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