Did the Trojan War actually happen?

[Cabelaz]

The moon landings were real, and the Trojan war wasn't!

 

[themotherflippin480]

No, no it was not real. The Trojan war was staged as a way to market the condoms

 

[SiccDicc]

It existed, but it was over a horse named Helen.

 

[Rebel Wilson]

Ask yourself if two nations of boy fuckers would honestly go to war and genocide one another over a fully grown woman

 

[mr.moon1488]

It was the world's first furry convention.

 

[Idiotron]

Something probably happened between the 2 nations but all of Homer's piece is pure fiction.

 

[Solid Snek]

I'm not sure what there is to discuss here. This is a question that's inherently irresolvable.

I think there's fairly strong archeological evidence that "Troy" (or a city that provided the literary basis for Troy) existed. As for whether there was a war; I don't know? Possibly?

I don't really know what else there is to say, as it's not like we can prove the historicity of the war either way. I would like there to have been a Trojan War, yes. Or, maybe not so much like there "to have been" a Trojan War, but would prefer the romantic notion that the story of the Trojan War was based on historical events, rather than being pure fiction. But it's just a subjective and arbitrary position; I can no more argue that "it's true that the Trojan War actually happened" than I can argue the reverse.

Epistemelogically, bring the moon landing into this is interesting. OP, are you perhaps hinting that the relative lack of primary sources dealing with the Moon Landing (really just the radio broadcasts and "the tape" survive; according to NASA, most of the scientific data has been lost), juxtaposed against how much Homer there is dealing with the Trojan War, should give us pause in regards to believing in the historicity of the Moon Landing?

 

[Llama king]

Ask yourself if two nations of boy fuckers would honestly go to war and genocide one another over a fully grown woman

Europeans have fought each other for lesser reasons

 

[Solid Snek]

Europeans have fought each other for lesser reasons

This is true.

It's also important to note that the Greeks weren't JUST boy fuckers. They fucked many things, including their own (and other people's) wives.

Just as modern man may indulge himself with MILFs, furries, and shotas, so too would Classical man slake his perversions with satyrs, catamites, and Helen of Troy.

 

[RMQualtrough]

Old wive's tale.

 

[Mnutu]

It was a real event, just gussied up by Homer. Core story of the war itself is far too mundane compared to every other Greek myth that it’s likely the Greek equivalent of Three Kings or Jarhead and the Gulf War; a desperate attempt to make a boring conflict interesting.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Myth or not, I like how The Iliad portrayed the Trojans much more sympathetically than the Greeks who actually wrote the story

 

[biozeminadae1]

Myth or not, I like how The Iliad portrayed the Trojans much more sympathetically than the Greeks who actually wrote the story

That's probably because there weren't Greeks in the Trojan war, there were Achaeans, direct ancestors of the Hellenes, Greeks, Thessalians, etc.

It was a real event, just gussied up by Homer. Core story of the war itself is far too mundane compared to every other Greek myth that it’s likely the Greek equivalent of Three Kings or Jarhead and the Gulf War; a desperate attempt to make a boring conflict interesting.

The Iliad is a part of the Epic cycle that encompassed the Trojan war. The war lasted ten years, it was bound to have had more interesting events.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Also, yes, it did happen. Its timestamp corresponds with the the invasions made by the Sea peoples against Egypt, the Hittite empire and the Levant. Also, the state of Troy/Ilion seems to have ended around the Bronze Age collapse, which was partly caused by the Sea Peoples.

 

[Interchanger]

Jesus is real why can't Achilles be real. So with that logic Trojan War happended