DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups

[Godzilla@1989]

Gillespie's version of the film would have probably been completely mid 6/10 movie. It still had the terrible casting (thanks to Gunn) and a bad script (thanks to Gunn) but given Gillespie is a basically competent, if gay, director so he likely was able to pull it over the finish line into watchable.

But with James Gunn in complete control you have the entire thing cratered down from a 6 to a 2. Remember James Gunn is the final decider on everything and is the reason everything released from DC has been troonslop grool.

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Early box-office estimates for this weekend have supergirl falling from 2nd to 4th place, with Minions, Toy Story 5, and Young Washington all completely raping it at the box office.

Imagine if Gunn rebooted Watchmen.

 

[clickbait]

Imagine if Gunn rebooted Watchmen.

"So what are we? Some sort of Watchmen?"

I'll tell you h'what... If Gunn rebooted watchmen it wouldn't be as visually stunning as what Snyder did, but it would be a better shorter movie.

Imagine the sandwiches at Snyder's house. Meat cuts as thick as the bread slices. And he wouldn't use that American sponge bread that's delicious... He'd use some thick, crusty artisan homemade bread, with homemade butter and only those chunky Jew salts. It'll be delicious, but he'll demand you to eat all of them when you can only stomach 2.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Imagine if Gunn rebooted Watchmen.

There's that Watchmen series with nigga Manhattan and Rorschach cultists who are all TRUMPF! stand-ins. Hard to do worse.

 

[Thorpy Kamen]

No. Regardless of whether or not the merger goes through Warner Brothers are desperate for high profile D.C. releases even if they fail. It's more about making the D.C. brands stand out compared to HBO or Harry Potter or the other Discovery properties and brands. They've had more bombs than successes. And more mega bombs than box office hits. Their strategy is simply keeping the brands in the news and in theaters every month even if the films are complete dogshit and lose money. Some examples.

- Justice League lost about $60 million.
- Jonah Hex was a colossal bomb that failed so badly that it made just $500K in territories outside of the U.S. in theaters.
- Watchmen was not profitable as Fox and Paramount got a considerable chunk of the movie.
- Birds of Prey fell $100 million short of its needed theatrical totals to make profit.
- Wonder Woman 1984 probably took in $150 million in losses for Warner Brothers.
- The Suicide Squad went to streaming early and wiped out its box office numbers and therefore bombed.
- Black Adam was $50 million short of its projected break-even point.
- Shazam! bombed at theaters and made no impact in home media.
- The Flash had Ezra Miller go nuts during the promotional tour and that movie lost $100 million easily.
- Blue Beetle is one of the lowest grossing D.C. films and basically vanished after leaving theaters.
- Aquaman 2 was a huge loser despite the first being a box office hit.
- Supergirl is projected to lose at least $125 million. Which likely eats all of the previous Superman film's profits and more.
- Joker 2 saving the best for last is a $200 million loser that had one of the largest comic book movie marketing budgets.

Wait, supposedly they hadn't released a Batgirl movie, so what happened there? Isn't that supposed to be a non-starter at DC?

Likewise, we have Netflix releasing anything and everything, like 20 episodes of Golpe. I mean, no matter how bad and awful HBO's Velma was, being a grotesque product in itself, you can't expect it to be canceled after 10 episodes because it always turns out to be the minimum of 20 episodes plus "a special." Damn it, that's in the average Netflix contract. Anyone with half a brain would say, "Well, the crap we produced cost us a lot of money to waste." If it turned out bad, let it turn out bad.

That one lost between $75 and $100 million. And also killed The Green Lantern franchise in movies and television from 2011 until 2026.

I would tell you that it wouldn't just be that but also the merchandise, but the guys who strongly defend Superman and Supergirl tell you that "It's not about selling but about hope," even ridiculing the simple fact that technically more people saw Man of Steel than Superman 2025.

I thought Watchmen was a co production between Warner Bros and Paramount?

How much did Green Lantern with Ryan Reynolds lose because that was also a box office disappointmen?

I have my doubts if that collaboration was a hint of "The Fusion," but with the Lanterns themselves, the costume design decisions seem strange to me. We won't see the green suits very soon, and it will only be Green Lantern because of the ring itself, that's until "further along the plot" of the series or the universe.

 

[Thorpy Kamen]

Gillespie's version of the film would have probably been completely mid 6/10 movie. It still had the terrible casting (thanks to Gunn) and a bad script (thanks to Gunn) but given Gillespie is a basically competent, if gay, director so he likely was able to pull it over the finish line into watchable.

But with James Gunn in complete control you have the entire thing cratered down from a 6 to a 2. Remember James Gunn is the final decider on everything and is the reason everything released from DC has been troonslop grool.

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Early box-office estimates for this weekend have supergirl falling from 2nd to 4th place, with Minions, Toy Story 5, and Young Washington all completely raping it at the box office.

Oh my god, I feel like Gunn sold me false expectations of "We'll have quality" that would be pure smoke and mirrors.

The only legacy supergirl will have will be vague memories of the weird penis mug james gunn tried to sell people
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The Snyder fans I know keep bothering me about how they "argue about things" like the Batman pizza. It's not like they should have any empathy for the Snyderverse fans I have in Latin America (they're idiots too).

This kind of merchandise is hideous; it looks like a horrible foreskin, and it's supposed to be "for the general public." This was the most reasonable version of "Batman's pizza." I mean, the new DCU universe was supposed to do things right.

 

[DocAwe]

Oh my god, I feel like Gunn sold me false expectations of "We'll have quality" that would be pure smoke and mirrors.

The Snyder fans I know keep bothering me about how they "argue about things" like the Batman pizza. It's not like they should have any empathy for the Snyderverse fans I have in Latin America (they're idiots too).

This kind of merchandise is hideous; it looks like a horrible foreskin, and it's supposed to be "for the general public." This was the most reasonable version of "Batman's pizza." I mean, the new DCU universe was supposed to do things right.

At least the Batman pizza was fun.

 

[Calandrino]

Zeus should be a Superman rogue

Thor and Sun Wukong should be Superman rogues, they're public domain so Marvel and Toei can suck it

 

[Humble Architect]

Thor and Sun Wukong should be Superman rogues, they're public domain so Marvel and Toei can suck it

Oh you didn’t know?

Superman plays nice with China, New 52 Superman in his last days let them clone him and didn’t kill the abomination in the womb. Superman let a commie regime clone him, the strongest thing on the planet. When the right thing to do would be to kill the thing.

Regular Supes speaks Kenan’s “language” and of course the little knockoff never speaks English.

I’d pay good money for Superman to whoop their gay monkey god.

 

[TheHarbinger]

I would tell you that it wouldn't just be that but also the merchandise, but the guys who strongly defend Superman and Supergirl tell you that "It's not about selling but about hope," even ridiculing the simple fact that technically more people saw Man of Steel than Superman 2025.

Correct. And this is something that is rarely discussed in trade media about the movie industry. That these big blockbuster releases that fail often have massive losses in merchandise. Star Wars recent properties have contributed to entire landfills of craps toys and products. Who knows how much Supergirl and Flash chink factory made junk is just deteriorating in garbage dumps.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

DC and Marvel both have a problem with villains and their powers, they all lack the ability to wrap their heads around powers that aren't just "bigger beams " or "stronger punch", and while those can work, what makes a villain terrifying and capitivating is actions, motivations, and powers that are outside of convention and require something to be overcome.

For this, they should look to the Nips, who regularly think up whacky, offbeat, terrifying and interesting powers and motivations for villains.

for instance some of the main villains of RE:Zero all have powers most direct confrontation would be difficult with and would be interesting for hero's to work around, to highlight Regulus Corneas has the ability to "stop" anything he is touching including himself, this make shim completely and totally invincible, NOTHING can harm him, he requires no food, no oxygen, no anything, he is perfectly "stopped" and always in perfect condition, no amount of physical or magical abilites can harm him.

Being invincible isn't the end, he can "stop" anything he touches, air, water the ground, any object, any object he stops is no longer affected by inertia, gravity, or physical resistances of any kind, meaning if he kicks sand, and stops it, it will fly forward without limit and tear anything in that direction like a godly shotgun blast, apart, until it "restarts" some seconds/minutes later, which is way more than enough for it to go many hundreds of miles.

This means no matter how much Superman punches him or what any of them could do to him he'd never be harmed, to offset this, he's incredibly bad at fighting and is narcissi tic to a degree that can't be overstated, he believes everything belongs to him (he's the archbishop of Greed)

Why DC and Marvel writers and movie makers can't come up with unique powers like this, I'll never know, some Nip did it for a villain that shows up in exactly 1 real arc of his story and is a more unique power than anything from the MCU or DCU's I've seen.