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DC Comics Multimedia General - A crisis of infinite fuck ups
We're also more able to take criticism. If someone tells me Snyder uses too much blue in his palette and his films need more lighter moments, I will say: "Yes." I still like a lot about them though. And when the fucking Harley Quinn cartoon in all its obnoxiousness tried to directly mock Snyder fans,
Oh, and last I checked asking for an interview and then screaming and crying over the most basic questions is not being a boy scout, that is just being a spoiled brat who wants everyone to worship you and never question anything you do. Gunn's Superman is really far from being a boy scout. Hell he broke into Lex's office, violating his constitutional rights, and then acts shocked when one of the richest men on earth had the ability to show this on the internet. This isn't like the first Superman movie where Lex was already wanted by the police and and hiding in a hole, this Superman thinks people only have rights when he is okay with it, that is not being a boy scout.
Not only should Superman be joining Lex in prison at the end of the movie(Just because your victim gets convicted of a crime doesn't mean you get off the hook for any crimes you committed against them)but there is a good chance a good portion of the case against Lex gets thrown out of court since the evidence was found as a result of his rights being violented.
So Superman's inability to control his emotions means that Lex will be right back out on the streets committing crimes soon, so Gunn's Superman isn't even and affective hero.
Gunn's Superman is only a boy scout on the surface level and he is also an idiot, so this is not Superman in my book.
For instance how many people died while he saved the squirrel and the top of a building is the last place you should leave someone in a disaster where buildings are knocked down. Guy Gardner was a way more affective hero than Superman and that makes sense since he is a character Gunn doesn't hate.
Gunn was being forced to make Superman against his will and it really shows.
Also he is just acting nice, but if you hurt his feelings Gunn's Superman will scream at you(If you are lucky enough to be fucking him that is all he will do) and break into your place and threaten you and when that doesn't work he gets just as depressed as Snyder's Superman and gives up. He acts more like Chris Chan than he does Superman.
Gunn's Superman is only nice and helpful as long as nothing goes wrong and not one person says something mean about him online.
That isn't a boy scout that is a bully pretending to be nice to get what he wants.
I have a question and it may be silly. I thought weekend numbers included all of Sunday. But all these 38m domestically stories were coming out mid Sunday. Were no tickets bought after 1pm est?
Do people only pre-buy their tickets online nowadays and rarely at the teller?
it's an estimate, they do this for all movies. If you want to wait for actuals they are usually out by tue/wed. The difference is generally negligible, 37.5-38.5 million for final numbers. if its something you are interested in, dan murrel on youtube generally keeps track and updates numbers each week.
"People think him actually bothering to save people and acting heroic is a massive improvement from Snyder, so I can see why even people in this thread like him, but he still has several issues I don't like," doesn't mean, "Gunn's Superman is the best Superman ever."
I'd take the guy that would save even a squirrel over the guy that let his dad die, and didn't even seem to like the role or saving people that much. He still has many things I don't like, such as Gunn making Jor-El evil and his whiny, weak manchild personality.
"People think him actually bothering to save people and acting heroic is a massive improvement from Snyder, so I can see why even people in this thread like him, but he still has several issues I don't like," doesn't mean, "Gunn's Superman is the best Superman ever."
I did understand what you are saying. You're saying that Gunn Superman is better than Snyder Superman because, while he is still bad, he's nicer and rescues people. I disagree. He is JUST as bad but in a different way. Also, as others said, he can be a bully.
I'd take the guy that would save even a squirrel over the guy that let his dad die, and didn't even seem to like the role or saving people that much. He still has many things I don't like, such as Gunn making Jor-El evil and his whiny, weak manchild personality.
Yeah, I get that. Snyder Superman did what his father told him to do. It was stupid but it isn't like he didn't want to save him. He just had a shitty dad that told him to get traumatized. He still wanted to help.
"People think him actually bothering to save people and acting heroic is a massive improvement from Snyder, so I can see why even people in this thread like him, but he still has several issues I don't like," doesn't mean, "Gunn's Superman is the best Superman ever."
I'd take the guy that would save even a squirrel over the guy that let his dad die, and didn't even seem to like the role or saving people that much. He still has many things I don't like, such as Gunn making Jor-El evil and his whiny, weak manchild personality.
Snyder's Superman is introduced saving people, Lois figures out Clark is Superman because she just back tracks through all the people who he can't help himself but save, even when he is trying to hide.
Are you mad that he didn't smile and takes the danger seriously while saving people. Guess in your book all fire fighters are horrible people because they are grim and focused while saving people instead of cracking joked every two minutes.
You praise the saving of the squirle but then have a problem with the saving of the dog?
As long as Superman man smiles while he does it then it doesn't matter what he does? Got it.
I am describing a pick your potion situation. I am not gonna die on the hill Gunn'a is the best version or flawless because that's not what I am saying..
What I did say is that Gunn's Superman does look favorable when compared to the edgy dark evil Superman era, but he still falls short.
Nah I won't give him a pass for this. Even Lex Luthor, and Zod in that movie had good intentions ( resurrecting his dead world). Doing and wanting are two different things.
Like you said, Snyder's Superman is bad in his own way too. This is one the ways he is bad too.
I'm just saying, Sydney Sweeney as Power Girl would have been a way better movie idea. Have her face villains such as an out of control water hose or a particularly bouncy trampoline and it'd make a billion on its opening weekend.
Here is the bottom line for me, in Gunn's movie Lex Luthor is able to get Superman to lose his shit with a hashtag on the internet, that is the second worst live action version of Superman.
The only one who is worse is the one who uses his powers to stalk Lois and ends the movie as a deadbeat dad.
Superman in Gunn's movie becomes depressed not because it is impossible for him to save everyone he wants to save, but because of mean tweets, so there is nothing super or even manly about him.
Nah I won't give him a pass for this. Even Lex Luthor, and Zod in that movie had good intentions ( resurrecting his dead world). Doing and wanting are two different things.
Like you said, Snyder's Superman is bad in his own way too. This is one the ways he is bad too.
Is krypto the first time a dog in a movie has been unlikable? I didn't even think it was possible to make people dislike a dog. james gunn is a master of making things suck more than you could ever imagine, he also looks like a butch lesbian.
The movie even contains the line "The only way someone else will not find you is for you to stop saving people, I get the feeling that isn't an option for you." Yet for some reason people think Cavil's Superman doesn't save people.
You keep referring to this "evil Superman", but are you only getting this from the Knightmare part? What corroborates this idea for you if otherwise?
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The real problem with Gunn's Superman is that he's written like Superboy, and this is where I'd expect to see his manchild outbursts and having no agency. There isn't enough distinction between himself and his Clark alter-ego to fool people into thinking he's someone else.
The problems are exacerbated by Gunn's poor choices in direction though. Having everyone just sit around events that range from domestic to catastrophic was retarded. Superman being good at saving people is fine and all, but neutering all semblance of survival or self-preservation makes the whole thing look farcical. Even having people jist running from the giant kaiju instead of filming it on their phones makes more sense.
Is krypto the first time a dog in a movie has been unlikable? I didn't even think it was possible to make people dislike a dog. james gunn is a master of making things suck more than you could ever imagine, he also looks like a butch lesbian.
