Dave Brian Muscato / Danielle Tatiana Muscato / Danielle Brian Muscato - Half-Assed Trans Activist, Fully Arrested, Rape Appropriator, Convicted of Stalking His Parents

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Not to victim blame, but the situation is at least partially Dave's parents' fault. They enabled his behaviour for years before he got too out of control, and even when it finally got to court they still didn't go as hard as they could/should have.

As we learned from Rob Reiner, it's hard for a parent to cut off even the worst failchild, but the longer you indulge them the more things are going to escalate because they take your capitulation as a sign of weakness.

I hope their extension request is granted and they can keep Dave out of their life for good, or at least long enough for him to freeze to death sleeping rough on the streets.
 
It's seemed the Dr. Muscatos were pretty firm with Dave. The rule looked to be No NEETs In This House.

When Dave dropped out of high school to be a rockstar, they booted him right out.

When Dave wanted his guitar collection, Dr. Joe (a guitar player) priced the guitars he and Dr. Mary had bought for Dave and told him to fork over the money for whichever guitar(s) he wanted. Dave's whaaaa whaaaa about it at Dr. Joe's office got extreme enough to pull in the cops. Dr. Joe did not relent.

When Dave got busted in Tennessee, his parents held back for days on paying his bail while Dave's handmaiden worked to scare them into it.

When he whimpered about needing shelter to recover from surgery, they rented him their basement. The couch-shouting incident Dave likes to recount may well have been Dr. Joe telling him to get back down to where he belonged.

Dr. Joe policed Dave's post-surgical meds use to Dave's wailing outrage.

As that post-surgical adventure came to an end, Dave was OUT and the Drs. Muscato did not give him the comfy, caring re-housing he demanded.

They've since refused to give him go-away money, which was what led to his public shaming campaign and face-to-face harassment of them - trying to break their will, which did not break.

No one can discipline the mental illness out of someone else. You can be consistent and firm to curb the worst behavior, but the crazy continues.
 
True, but ignoring it just escalates the demands and, before you know it, you no longer have a life of your own.

They cooperated with the police, both about the harassment and the theft. They testified publicly in court against him and were deposed two or three times before that. They didn't ask the judge to let Dave off easy.

Under the law, they have no authority over their adult son. They can't institutionalize him as some here like to fantasize. That's not how the law works and there are very few beds in scarce psychiatric residential programs.

He'd have to be psychotic or suicidal to be admitted and would be released as soon as his symptoms seemed to abate rather than set to basket weaving for life in the dayroom.

And so? Dave's an outpatient under court order who converts his dim therapists into handmaidens. He's a lot better at that than he is at the bass and, frankly, that's why I find him interesting.
 
noticed this as well, this bizarre way of "smiling" of his: it's as if he's trying to pull his cheeks back into a normal smile while also keeping his lips pursed tightly together.
The smug/autogynesmile has been discussed, but Dave is also missing a tooth up front and is very self-conscious about it. Of course, he'll never pull off the demure pout of Zinnia Jones

I may have some more stuff for the archives RE: Dave's PR era - there was an interview he did when the organization was trying to get a monument in Arizona either removed or modified, and it was another glorious disaster, ha ha
 
Wow...wowee. What a trip.

Over the past week or so I just read this entire thread from start to finish. Well, mostly highlights, skipping only the War and Peace-sized diatribes that likely amounted to little more than Dave saying "my daddy is an abuser! my cop brother is a klansman! we live in nazi germany! can i have money now".

Out of all the low-effort, grifting tranny sideshow freaks on this site that I can bear to stomach, Dave tops or near-tops my list as the most repugnant and irredeemably awful one among them. Someone way upthread said he's one sexual assault conviction away from going full horrorcow and I agree. To echo what Onions said a few posts up, yeah if I was his father I'd have kicked his ass sideways and thrown him out long ago instead of enabling him well into his twenties, and sued him for libel or whatever even if it would be a net loss due to Dave being a penniless fuckup.

I've known grown, hairy-knuckled dudes wearing $15 amazon wigs of mario Rosalina that passed better than Dave ever did in any one of his pictures. Dave just looks like Danny DeVito lost a bet. Apologies to the Penguin.

There's about a hundred posts I wanted to reply to but I'd rather not necro old shit. Sorry, not much to contribute besides that. Fun thread. Awful, but fun.
 
I've known grown, hairy-knuckled dudes wearing $15 amazon wigs of mario Rosalina that passed better than Dave ever did in any one of his pictures. Dave just looks like Danny DeVito lost a bet. Apologies to the Penguin.
He doesn't even try because he doesn't want to pass. He wants to force people to lie and pretend to believe he's a woman.
 
I've known grown, hairy-knuckled dudes wearing $15 amazon wigs of mario Rosalina that passed better than Dave ever did in any one of his pictures. Dave just looks like Danny DeVito lost a bet. Apologies to the Penguin.
Danny DeVito looks twelve; Dave looks fried as hell.
 
He doesn't even try because he doesn't want to pass. He wants to force people to lie and pretend to believe he's a woman.
It's that AGP koolaid like Jon Boy (Yaniv). Forcing people to be uncomfortable, forcing them to grit their teeth and say "...ma'am" in pure and utter submissiveness. 100% a fetish.

Danny DeVito looks twelve; Dave looks fried as hell.
Fried in gutter oil maybe

I've just never seen such a consistent, pathological liar as bad as Dave. He lies like it's a bodily function. If this fat stump of a creature told me the sky is blue I'd go out and check.
 
It's seemed the Dr. Muscatos were pretty firm with Dave. The rule looked to be No NEETs In This House.

When Dave dropped out of high school to be a rockstar, they booted him right out.

When Dave wanted his guitar collection, Dr. Joe (a guitar player) priced the guitars he and Dr. Mary had bought for Dave and told him to fork over the money for whichever guitar(s) he wanted. Dave's whaaaa whaaaa about it at Dr. Joe's office got extreme enough to pull in the cops. Dr. Joe did not relent.

When Dave got busted in Tennessee, his parents held back for days on paying his bail while Dave's handmaiden worked to scare them into it.

When he whimpered about needing shelter to recover from surgery, they rented him their basement. The couch-shouting incident Dave likes to recount may well have been Dr. Joe telling him to get back down to where he belonged.

Dr. Joe policed Dave's post-surgical meds use to Dave's wailing outrage.

As that post-surgical adventure came to an end, Dave was OUT and the Drs. Muscato did not give him the comfy, caring re-housing he demanded.

They've since refused to give him go-away money, which was what led to his public shaming campaign and face-to-face harassment of them - trying to break their will, which did not break.

No one can discipline the mental illness out of someone else. You can be consistent and firm to curb the worst behavior, but the crazy continues.
Almost all of those "facts" come from Dave himself and I don't think we can trust them. Of course Dave paints his parents as being tough on him, that's been his gimmick for a few years. We do know that his parents rented him their basement, but from what I recall it was $1 a month, just there so that he couldn't claim squatters rights.
 
He wants to force people to lie and pretend to believe he's a woman.
Forcing people to be uncomfortable, forcing them to grit their teeth and say "...ma'am" in pure and utter submissiveness. 100% a fetish.
Belatedly, it's occurred to me that this is a weak-tea form of sadism.

We do know that his parents rented him their basement, but from what I recall it was $1 a month, just there so that he couldn't claim squatters rights.
Exactly. They didn't let him move back in despite his moaning about his health and endless needs. They rented him the basement while he recovered from surgery and did so knowing they had to set up a legal mechanism that would allow them to kick him out again.

Almost all of those "facts" come from Dave himself and I don't think we can trust them.
100% agree.

But we saw plenty of evidence that they did rent him the basement planning to limit his stay, they did drive him out of there, Joe did restrict Dave's use of addictive drugs, Joe and Mary did have the police arrest him and then testified against him on two criminal matters, they have sought and renewed court orders to keep him away from them, and so on.

Suing Dave for libel? So they're out of pocket for a case that will net nothing because Dave has nothing to net. Dave goes on defaming them. And?

The courts are not the universal parent who can magically make cows stop cowing. See, for instance, Russell Greer. Also Tommy Tooter.
 
The only thing that can cause a true lolcow such as Dave to cease and desist from their defining, pathological behavior is God's mistake being undone (e.g., Dave being discovered having been given a makeover by Fuzz Face after he gracelessly expired on an apartment couch he was "house sitting" for the sake of having a place to publish libel about his family until he once again outstayed his welcome without ever having made basic efforts to secure subsequent housing).

Cows can neither be rehabilitated nor coerced into longterm compliance in meeting basic expectations of civilization - They exist to inflict themselves upon anyone they can sniff out as a victim, and to whatever extent they convince themselves they can get away with, until they're effectively swept off the board due to a coronary event, overdose, or the avoidable outcome of having plied their trade with the wrong person. Either that, or they achieve functional exile through incarceration or hospitalization.

Because none of the above circumstances are (yet) Dave's, he will continue to be as lazy as possible in his preoccupation with attempting to bully his family (instead of doing anything else, including the various meritorious acts he lies about).
 
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Almost all of those "facts" come from Dave himself and I don't think we can trust them. Of course Dave paints his parents as being tough on him, that's been his gimmick for a few years. We do know that his parents rented him their basement, but from what I recall it was $1 a month, just there so that he couldn't claim squatters rights.
All of that just seems like regular no-bullshit parenting. Whatever happened to the Friday model? "If you want to stay here, you need to get a J-O-B." (The day after he got wrongly fired.)

The fact that these accounts are coming from Dave (who lies), could imply his parents were even less strict than that. Frankly I don't think they were strict enough.

Belatedly, it's occurred to me that this is a weak-tea form of sadism.
I'd call it low-T but I suspect there isn't one working molecule of testosterone in Dave's hunchback body. Whatever testosterone does exist only works to grow his ladybeard.

Suing Dave for libel? So they're out of pocket for a case that will net nothing because Dave has nothing to net. Dave goes on defaming them. And?
Even if they netted nothing, it seems like Joe has "fuck you" levels of money so I doubt they'd feel the hit. The loss would be like poking Godzilla. Suing Dave would be more about sending a message: "your Mom and I smelled and wiped your shit for years. we put you in the best home, the best schools, gave you opportunities that billions across the planet can only dream of just so you can call us abusers? don't fuck with us."
 
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Suing Dave would be more about sending a message: "your Mom and I smelled and wiped your shit for years. we put you in the best home, the best schools, gave you opportunities that billions across the planet can only dream of just so you can call us abusers? don't fuck with us."
I agree, but I also agree with the people saying shit like this only works if the target is capable of understanding what a piece of shit they are. Dave lies about many, many, many things but he's such an unabashed narcissist I can believe he believes he's telling the truth. Honestly, I don't know what you do about a person like this in polite society while remaining inside the law.

In more sensible times Dr Joe would have rounded up a posse and lynched his worthless failson, saving the whole world the hassle of putting up with his bullshit. Same with people like Yaniv and Greer, who only exist to be a menace.
 
Thanks to the timeline begun by @eggs_over_easy, I can add a sort of "In Soviet Russia the tv watches YOU" merriment here:

Parents should sue cow? Well in Missouri, cow sues parents.

The year was 2022. Dave had been allowed to rent the parental basement while he recovered from back surgery, soon cranked up his mad cow act, and told Joe he was taking out a restraining order against him.

Two days later, the Muscatos' lawyer had Dave served with a temporary order of protection.

As 2023 dawned, Dave posted he had asked Joe's lawyer for a $500k settlement plus a $1MM donation to charity. Joe's first counteroffer: $5k. No, said indignant Dave. Joe's second counteroffer $0, but maybe financial help in future if Dave stopped defaming him.

By midmonth, Dave and Joe had agreed to drop their orders of protection against each other, but a week later Dave learned he'd be slapped with a trespassing charge if he returned to his parents' property.

Dave went on demanding money, harassing his parents, and threatening to file a fresh suit if he didn't get what he wanted. His parents filed for a fresh protection order. Dave filed for a fresh protection order. County prosecutors filed criminal charges against Dave....... and on we go.

As Saul Goodman could attest, some situations require a lawyer. Other situations require a hitman.

It's not that I think Joe and Mary aren't part of the Dave problem. It's that I think they've never been able to fix the Dave problem....

Because Mike Ehrmantraut never got cancer in Columbia, Missouri.
 
I agree, but I also agree with the people saying shit like this only works if the target is capable of understanding what a piece of shit they are. Dave lies about many, many, many things but he's such an unabashed narcissist I can believe he believes he's telling the truth. Honestly, I don't know what you do about a person like this in polite society while remaining inside the law.

In more sensible times Dr Joe would have rounded up a posse and lynched his worthless failson, saving the whole world the hassle of putting up with his bullshit. Same with people like Yaniv and Greer, who only exist to be a menace.
Yeah, my argument and admittedly my whole worldview falls apart when the recipient cannot understand. I honestly don't know how to reach a tarded kid. FWIW I can comfortably say I would never strike a child; however, growing up, wellll we had consequences for not taking out the goddamned trash.

And upon reflection, Yaniv as a tranny sideshow edges (eww) out Dave in terms of repulsiveness for many reasons, not the least of which would be the wax-my-balls saga, legitimate threats of physical violence (however impotent), and the vexatious litigation. But he's up there in America's hat and it seems like anything goes if you're a tranny.

Pick 15 from across the thread and do it. I love a trip down memory lane.
Nobody wants that, and I didn't save them.

Just imagine a dozen or so My Cousin Vinny jokes about Danny DeVito in drag. Throw in some "He/Him" stickers super-glued onto Dave's forehead, and a band name change from The Juicy Beets to The Juicy Beetus, featuring Dave the One Eyed Wonder Weasel and His Two Balls on guitar.
 
Dave doesn't go after kids - as far as we know. He may yet degenerate to that degree, but Yaniv seems to have always wanted to molest girls as they reach menstruation age.

Dave appears to be more inclined to skinwalk young women he finds attractive. That's serious ick bordering on criminal charges, but it's not on a par with putting on a dress to lurk in ferry washrooms in hopes of sticking tampons in 10-year-old girls.

Dave reminds me more of Virgo Rouge, an actual XX person who's spent her life warring with her family and collecting musical instruments that prove she has phenomenal talent. She's more hostile and self-isolating than Dave, but comes up with surprisingly similar narratives and behaviors. NPD seems to limit the imagination.
 
Dave posted he had asked Joe's lawyer for a $500k settlement plus a $1MM donation to charity. Joe's first counteroffer: $5k. No, said indignant Dave. Joe's second counteroffer $0, but maybe financial help in future if Dave stopped defaming him.
$1 MM? 1 mega million? 1 * 10^6 * 10^6 = 10^12 = a trillion? You drive a hard bargain, Dave. Can't blame a gal for trying!

My offer is this: nothing. No money for troonoid charities, your phony baloney back pills, your titty skittles, or your mumus from goodwill which I would thank you to not hang dry in the front yard.

Dave doesn't go after kids - as far as we know. He may yet degenerate to that degree, but Yaniv seems to have always wanted to molest girls as they reach menstruation age.

Dave appears to be more inclined to skinwalk young women he finds attractive. That's serious ick bordering on criminal charges, but it's not on a par with putting on a dress to lurk in ferry washrooms in hopes of sticking tampons in 10-year-old girls.

Dave reminds me more of Virgo Rouge, an actual XX person who's spent her life warring with her family and collecting musical instruments that prove she has phenomenal talent. She's more hostile and self-isolating than Dave, but comes up with surprisingly similar narratives and behaviors. NPD seems to limit the imagination.
I seem to recall (I may be wrong) that Dave was talking to/dating a 14 y.o. girl when he was 18 or something. Given that before he was balding and trooning out he almost resembled a member of the human race, had a guitar and so on, I could see a weak, vulnerable girl going for it.

To the best of my knowledge, it's not illegal to be an ugly male freak walking around in a dress and wearing overpriced hot topic merch advertising your pronouns. Much to Dave's chagrin it's also not illegal for others to say "get away from me."
 
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