Childbearing draft

[Jewthulhu]

I'm sure they'll insist that they're against a draft as well, but the fact is that the United States waged six conflicts with men conscripted against their will while the women got to sit home. And you can't convince me that the draft is totally dead and buried, up until 2021 you could still find chickenhawk boomers that would condescendingly tell you that you gotta step up, be a MAN and serve Uncle Sam's interests in bringing gay anal sex to Botswana. And with the dismal recruitment rates the military is currently facing, I would be genuinely shocked if the idea hasn't at least been floated at the Pentagon. A draft coming back would be deeply unpopular, but it would be ultimately accepted as a grim necessity. Meanwhile, the first politician that suggested an idea like the OP's would be debanked and voted out of office so fast your head would spin.

The funny thing is, the primary rationale for leaving the women home in wartime was that you would need them to repopulate. If they're not going to fulfill their end of the social contract, then they should be up for the draft as well. I'm sure if you raised the possibility that women are going to be shipped off to war with the boys, their tune would change right quick.

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I'm pro-draft and you're a retard. 8)

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

That guy finds a way to reinvent old fascist ideas every other post. Didn't you have any history lessons about anything but Israel?

It's better to have a small population of happy, productive people than a huge population of traumatized women, and unwanted, emotionally unbalanced kids.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

A draft coming back would be deeply unpopular, but it would be ultimately accepted as a grim necessity. Meanwhile, the first politician that suggested an idea like the OP's would be debanked and voted out of office so fast your head would spin.

There's people in this thread literally suggesting it's better for a race/country to cease to exist, so you're probably right.

The funny thing is, the primary rationale for leaving the women home in wartime was that you would need them to repopulate. If they're not going to fulfill their end of the social contract, then they should be up for the draft as well. I'm sure if you raised the possibility that women are going to be shipped off to war with the boys, their tune would change right quick.

Women are also not good soldiers, but it'd be a good way to incentivize their behavior in a more constructive manner.

I'm pro-draft and you're a retard. 8)

I agree.

It's better to have a small population of happy, productive people than a huge population of traumatized women, and unwanted, emotionally unbalanced kids.

Their military will shrink proportionally, do you think society just operates on magic and good vibes?

 

[Android raptor]

I'm not LGBT, so you're asking the wrong guy.

You only want to diddle little girls, got it

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

Their military will shrink proportionally, do you think society just operates on magic and good vibes?

Well at least the remaining soldiers won't have to fight off all the traumatized orphanage babies who inevitably turned to violence, crime, rape and drugs after being raised without parental love for the sole purpose of an outdated political project.

Also seriously, get your massive retard head out of your ass and look at the world. It's not 1900 anymore. Wars are technological now, you don't need foot soldiers as much as you need drones, weapons, missiles, etc

 

[Android raptor]

I think it's interesting how muh draft moids seem to forget that even when women aren't fighting in wars (which is a lot more often throughout history than they realize), civilian women and even children still end up getting rapemurdered en masse the second soldiers enter somewhere with civilians. Women don't have to be in the military to end up as casualties of war.

 

[WE'RE ALL GONNA]

Incentives like tax breaks and free child care don’t seem to encourage having kids, just people having them sooner than they might otherwise. But it doesn’t seem to make ppl have kids if they don’t otherwise want them. Which kind of makes sense. Poor people tend to have more children so the idea that people “just can’t afford them” is false.

Perception is much more powerful than reality. If you think that having kids isn't a viable for your financial future you won't have children. It's not about whether people can actually afford to have kids or whether they're poor. It's 100% outlook.

My completely unpractical solution would be to remove birth control of all forms. Stripping consequence from sex has brought an insane amount of hedonistic brainrot into fruition and essentially destroyed marriage as a concept in the modern age. Do that and people will behave accordingly.

 

[Jewthulhu]

That guy finds a way to reinvent old fascist ideas every other post. Didn't you have any history lessons about anything but Israel?

It's better to have a small population of happy, productive people than a huge population of traumatized women, and unwanted, emotionally unbalanced kids.

I find out OP is a jew and now I don't know what side I should be on. I thought being a good little zionist means being anti-rape but apparently the zionist position is to support rape drafts?

 

[Chuck McGill]

Well at least the remaining soldiers won't have to fight off all the traumatized orphanage babies who inevitably turned to violence, crime, rape and drugs after being raised without parental love for the sole purpose of an outdated political project.

Also seriously, get your massive retard head out of your ass and look at the world. It's not 1900 anymore. Wars are technological now, you don't need foot soldiers as much as you need drones, weapons, missiles, etc

Who builds those drones? Who drives the truck that brings the missiles to the base? Who maintains the tanks, rifles and planes? We don't use human wave tactics anymore, but you still need huge quantities of warm bodies in logistics to keep those advanced weapon systems working. An F-16 requires 17 hours of maintenance per hour of flight time, and that's not even factoring for shit that breaks.

 

[Android raptor]

My completely unpractical solution would be to remove birth control of all forms. Stripping consequence from sex has brought an insane amount of hedonistic brainrot into fruition and essentially destroyed marriage as a concept in the modern age. Do that and people will behave accordingly.

Hope you like me being even crazier than I already am. BC is used for a lot more than just preventing pregnancy.

Btw if you view kids as just a consequence, for their sake never have any.

 

[Chuck McGill]

I think it's interesting how muh draft moids seem to forget that even when women aren't fighting in wars (which is a lot more often throughout history than they realize), civilian women and even children still end up getting rapemurdered en masse the second soldiers enter somewhere with civilians. Women don't have to be in the military to end up as casualties of war.

Which typically happens after all the military-aged men die defending your ungrateful ass and the soldiers from the other side come in.

 

[Android raptor]

Which typically happens after all the military-aged men die defending your ungrateful ass and the soldiers from the other side come in.

Nah it typically happens the second soldiers enter somewhere civilian women are.

How many wars have you fought in btw?

 

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

You guys live in an alternative reality you made up.
Anyway, All the people talking shit on here have a gaggle of healthy kids of the desired race? Because if not, what if the point, go reproduce instead of shitposting.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Well at least the remaining soldiers won't have to fight off all the traumatized orphanage babies who inevitably turned to violence, crime, rape and drugs after being raised without parental love for the sole purpose of an outdated political project.

Yeah, they'll have to die at the hands of their enemies (if they're lucky) instead, which sounds much better than your hypothetical about criminal orphans, that doesn't seem farfetched and hyperbolic at all!

Wars are technological now, you don't need foot soldiers as much as you need drones, weapons, missiles, etc

How many people died in the recent wars, bud? Just a few?

Btw if you view kids as just a consequence, for their sake never have any.

I agree, but he's using "consequence" in the neutral sense, as in a natural result of an action, divorced of its negative connotations.

 

[WE'RE ALL GONNA]

Btw if you view kids as just a consequence, for their sake never have any.

I think it's about time you get off the forum and breathe some fresh air. You and Ness have flung enough shit at each other to fill a book.

 

[Kill Your Idols]

You know what's a genuine, normal person answer to this problem? Go out and start a family on your own. I mean it. Nothing drives people like keeping up with the Joneses, so if you raise a happy family and prove that it's a worthwhile endeavor, people will undoubtedly follow suit. If you show your friends, family, coworkers, acquaintances, the reward of raising children, natural fear of missing out on a life milestone will kick in and motivate people to start their own family. If you're already on that path, great! Keep doing what you're doing and I think you'll find whatever community you're in will follow your example. If not, then maybe you can see why there's external reasons why people aren't down with having kids right now and internet postulating on coercive birthing policies miiiight have a lot of drawbacks.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

But none of those ideas have any basis in reality.

You know the moment you suggest government mandated rape babies as an actual solution, you really have no ground to stand calling other ideas unrealistic.

 

[Male Idiot]

I get the idea. Jews had been through some shit too, though they got it good now. Hard times call for hard solutions.

But my bet is still on artificial wombs. It is only a few decades away and has much less drawbacks. You all know China will want to be able to make soldiers in a factory, and they won't care about western seethe and reee.

Financial incentives only work in ethnostates. Or you'll get gyppos abusing the system and pumping out kids, leaving them in rags and drinking all the gibsmuh away.

But OP's idea is still an interesting one and it may have worked a century or two ago.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

You only want to diddle little girls, got it

You're a lesbian projecting random accusations of predatorial desires onto me in defense of the LGBT. Kinda makes you think...

But OP's idea is still an interesting one and it may have worked a century or two ago.

Even a century ago I doubt it would fly, at least in the west. I'm sure China or India wouldn't think twice about it if it was necessary.

 

[geckogoy]

Incentives didn't work and probably wont work unless its basically paying surrogacy rates. The culture that could create families died decades ago. At this point, people can point to their entitled, lazy, utterly selfish parents (and subsequent miserable childhood) and say 'aha it was always this way, the human race deserves to die out'.

I would also say the death spiral started with the 'me' generation and also blame it wholly on jewish propaganda.

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'its just every movie and other piece of media it wont hurt anything'

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