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[Betonhaus]

Snake Auntie - Overall strong first episode with Snek being really chill. Question is if the comedy will improve or just repeat the same jokes

That sounds interesting I guess I’ll che-
TIDDYS
GREAT BIG HONKING TIDDYS
WITH PEPPERONI
Hold the sausage

 

[LaughingCrying]

They've been doing that as of late for some ungodly reason. I just bought the Mars 30th anniversary omnibus and it has a stupid "suicide is not the answer" trigger warning as soon as you open up the book, so I whited it out lol. It's a fucking '90s shoujo aimed at high schoolers, I know what kind of melodrama I'm getting into. Most of the intended audience knows what they're getting into. Stop treating these older titles with kid gloves.

Late but Mars is a favorite of mine and I'm flabbergasted at that choice. I would white it out too. Sounds like it's from booktok because modern books now have to have spoilers trigger warnings so no one gets accidentally traumatized or too excited at reading something scandalous. Their fragile mind isn't strong enough to take it.
That aside I was always disappointed Mars never got a decent anime. There was a Thai/Chinese? Live Action but at the time a Japanese version wasn't made; maybe it's happened since. Then they finally made an anime but the style was all wrong, the episodes were rushed and short so I dropped it. It would have looked great if it was made traditionally.

 

[Commander X]

The unmitigated temerity of them. Showing that little girl's hair and face so brazenly. Tempting every man in Mohammed's army.

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Original subtitles for "Young Master Muhammed" in that scene

 

[MIU]

Finished Nobody's Boy Remi recently, overall I'd say it's pretty good. I think the ending is a little hamfisted but it doesn't ruin the show. I'd need to read Sans Famille to know for sure whether it's a good adaptation but the show itself is very enjoyable. The soundtrack is great, the acting to my non-japanese speaking ear was pretty good and the story is a refreshing break from modern writing. Makes me wish there was more anime based on books from the 19th century and before. The story tackles people struggling with faith in God after great tragedies in a far better and more mature manner than I see in a lot of modern and postmodern media.

There were two things I felt were a little weird, there was a crossdressing scene at a moment when the characters had to disguise themselves (Don't know if this was in the book or not, wouldn't be surprised if it is because it wouldn't be the first pre-20th century work I've engaged with that has children crossdressing. Europeans found that idea really funny back then for some reason ) and the anime seems to have race-swapped one of the characters (At least in this case its somewhat believable as the character was a circus performer, but I was very confused as to why not once his race was really drawn attention to until I looked up that the character was apparently white in the original book). My biggest issue when it comes to structural flaws is that the narrator just spoils one of the most important parts of the story in the middle of it. It doesn't *ruin* the show per say, but it makes that reveal far less significant. Again, I don't know if the book did this or not.

Overall, I would still say it's a 7-8/10. I'm also curious to check out the remake "Nobody's Girl: Remi" but that's for another time. I'll definitely read the original novel sometime. I'd give it a strong recommend

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

It also doesn't explain why supposed masters of their skills don't know these tricks and exploits.

That's the part where you lose me entirely. Whenever I see a series in the "weak skill is actually strong skill" genre all I can think to myself is that the author either isn't good at video games or doesn't play them at all because once you introduce video game mechanics you will always find that one guy who will push things to their absolute limit.

The set up for volume 2 is his next fight is against a character that has nothing but passive buffs so there's nothing to exploit, which is a good hook, but I fully expect some bullshit.

If he had the ability to use multiple skills at a time to create a facsimile of a new skill and that's how he wins his fights then that would be kinda neat since he's just sucker punching people who think they know the meta but given the rest of your explanation it sounds like he just does the typical Oriental MC thing where he is smart only because everyone around him is retarded.

"Jack of all trades, master of nothing"

The issue is that people always forget that is only the first half of that quote: "Jack of all trades, master of none, but oftentimes better than master of one." The whole point of a generalist is that you are reliable and dependable in a variety of roles, this makes a generalist far more valuable in any class/job based system than a specialist 99% of the time.


The main issue is that orientals are bad at video games and orientals who write cartoons and comics even more so.

 

[Red Dragon]

The main issue is that orientals are bad at video games and orientals who write cartoons and comics even more so.

I don't think the issue is "being bad at videogames", but more like "being bad at breaking from the mold". Japs drown their individuality in the name of their community, and follow standardized patterns even when said patterns cause problems.

Everyone but the MC being dumb is the quintessential bad writer problem; the author is too focused on how his self-insert is totally awesome instead of creating believable characters and an interesting setting.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Everyone but the MC being dumb is the quintessential bad writer problem; the author is too focused on how his self-insert is totally awesome instead of creating believable characters and an interesting setting.

It's not just the MC, it's any time an oriental author wants to have "the smart character" or "the clever villain".

"M'lord, pike squares are designed to stop cavalry charges, perhaps we should not charge our cavalry directly into them but instead use the mobility of our horses to flank."

"That's the 'Heaven-Sent Tactical Mastermind' of the Empire for ya."

 

[Professor Donger]

It's not just the MC, it's any time an oriental author wants to have "the smart character" or "the clever villain".

"M'lord, pike squares are designed to stop cavalry charges, perhaps we should not charge our cavalry directly into them but instead use the mobility of our horses to flank."

"That's the 'Heaven-Sent Tactical Mastermind' of the Empire for ya."

It's not just an Oriental author problem either; I've noticed a lot of people who do this issekai shit tend to fall into the trap of making everyone a lot stupider than they realistically should be. It just happens a lot in Japanimation because they LOVE the genre. If you ever want to torture yourself and read either fanfiction/anything published on Royal Road, you can see a ton of stories that are just self-inserts with an author trying to be smarter than they actually are. Harry Potter's fandom had a whole subgenre called rational fics, where the MC was supposed to be super smart and above the setting's superstition and supposed stupidity, but it just comes off as Reddit atheist slop.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

It's very hard to write intelligent characters unless you yourself are intelligent. Most of the people who think intelligence is a cool character trait are themselves midwits. It's much easier to make everyone other than your MC hold the idiot ball then it is to punch above your weight in intelligence

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I really enjoy the overly reference openings.

It will never cease to amaze that orientals will expect you to seriously believe that anyone would think that something as blatantly cracked as a skill copy ability would be underpowered.

There is an anime this season about someone becoming a heavy knight which is a "defective class". It's so fucking lazy, like holy shit at least do a meme class like Bard or Ranger rather than a class that is as old as JRPGs and traditionally heroic, even if suboptimal because it is centred on defence.

It's not just an Oriental author problem either; I've noticed a lot of people who do this issekai shit tend to fall into the trap of making everyone a lot stupider than they realistically should be. It just happens a lot in Japanimation because they LOVE the genre. If you ever want to torture yourself and read either fanfiction/anything published on Royal Road, you can see a ton of stories that are just self-inserts with an author trying to be smarter than they actually are. Harry Potter's fandom had a whole subgenre called rational fics, where the MC was supposed to be super smart and above the setting's superstition and supposed stupidity, but it just comes off as Reddit atheist slop.

Franken Fran had a story with a panel that encapsulates the retardation of isekais:

(Actually one of the sweeter stories).

The issue with Asian writers is that they live in a literal number based society (where they usually have mediocre grades and no social life), so they write that a setting where everyone literally have bigger numbers attached to them except the MC who's "so creative" that the numbers don't apply to him.

 

[Chocolate Rain]

The story tackles people struggling with faith in God after great tragedies in a far better and more mature manner than I see in a lot of modern and postmodern media.

Watching Remi must one of the most surreal experiences if you were raised Catholic, in an extremely pleasant way, to the point where I'm not even sure if Dezaki quite understood what he was adapting.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

There is an anime this season about someone becoming a heavy knight which is a "defective class". It's so fucking lazy, like holy shit at least do a meme class like Bard or Ranger rather than a class that is as old as JRPGs and traditionally heroic, even if suboptimal because it is centred on defence.

And not even that but classes that can tank a hit will almost always out perform glass cannons, something JRPGs also repeatedly bear out. Especially since the knight/fighter/warrior/paladin is far from helpless on offense despite its effective defensive profile. If you really want a meme class then you need to go into like second or third edition D&D splats to find shit like shamans and whatnot that no one ever wants to play or just go for something like a druid or monk that's just a worse version of another class.

The issue with Asian writers is that they live in a literal number based society (where they usually have mediocre grades and no social life), so they write that a setting where everyone literally have bigger numbers attached to them except the MC who's "so creative" that the numbers don't apply to him.

Made even worse by the fact that the MC is usually just using a high number in an unconventional way rather than truly making due with mediocre numbers.

ETA: Actually I think you hit the nail on the head with the "number based society" thing and that's why so many of these stories seem to revolve around guys assigned to support classes despite the fact that support classes are universally respected and valued outside of corporate life. They want to write a fantasy where some nameless replaceable office drone such as themselves is actually an invaluable and necessary part of the heroic exploits of the Hero's Party and if only they were given their chance to shine the whole world would see how special they actually are.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

I also watched Clevatess, and I really enjoyed. Don't get me wrong it's not particularly good or anything, but if you have nostalgia for the mid 2000s Adult Swim anime block you'll like it. It really feels like a time capsule of that early to mid 2000s. anime era. My only complaint is it doesn't seem to know what vibe it's going for and ping pongs between Berserk and more standard wacky anime style humor.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

My only complaint is it doesn't seem to know what vibe it's going for and ping pongs between Berserk and more standard wacky anime style humor.

Yeah, so, early to mid-2000s anime block.

 

[Ensok]

(Actually one of the sweeter stories).

Haha, at first maybe. Not when they revisit him.

 

[Korpon]

Chainsmoker Cat is very fun, despite the gross out humor

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Between Chainsmoker Cat and Jimoto Saiko, you can see the influence of western culture (netflix) on Anime. A CGDCT Anime about addictions with open hard drug use is a new mark from the Japs. I'm not saying hard drugs haven't been in Anime before, but to make them THE plot point for the whole damn show?

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Between Chainsmoker Cat and Jimoto Saiko, you can see the influence of western culture (netflix) on Anime. A CGDCT Anime about addictions with open hard drug use is a new mark from the Japs. I'm not saying hard drugs haven't been in Anime before, but to make them THE plot point for the whole damn show?

I think it's hilarious that at the end of Chainsmoker Cat they had to give a disclaimer about how smoking underage is illegal and you shouldn't do it. Who's going to watch that show and go "Yeah man. I gotta get in on some of that!" after seeing the MC and the way she lives?

 

[DocAwe]

Chainsmoker Cat is very fun, despite the gross out humor
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I really want to see this.
I hope the totally legitimate streaming service I use gets it soon.

 

[Chocolate Rain]

Watched the first episode of the new GitS.
All and all it's very well done, but as someone who does fuck with the source of material let's just say it demonstrates once again why Shirow's writing should never be left as-is in an adaptation of his work.
That type of dialogue is clunky as shit when spoken out loud and its going to be the main thing that filters out people alongside its tonal dissonance. People who read the manga will get exactly what they want, people who only watched the movies and SAC will wonder WTF are they watching and larpers are gonna larp.