🐱 New Star Wars series to bring much-needed queerness to a galaxy far, far away

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Star Wars heroes Finn and Poe were famously not gay. (Disney)

Disney’s new Star Wars series, The Acolyte, will bring a much-needed queer perspective to the franchise, its showrunner has teased.
The Acolyte will focus on the emergence of dark-side powers in the final days of the High Republic, an era that began roughly 200 years before the events of Episode I: The Phantom Menace kicked off the Skywalker saga.
Leslye Headland, who is a lesbian, serves as the Disney Plus series’ showrunner, writer and executive producer.
She is the first openly queer person to take the reins of an on-screen Star Wars project, and has promised that her point of view as an LGBT+ person will be present in the new series.
She told The Advocate that she was “excited to do the type of character work” that she would normally do in her other projects as she joins the Star Wars universe. To her surprise, Headland said, this idea was something that “everyone was into”.
Though she couldn’t comment on how much representation fans might see on-screen, she said that her queerness will naturally be reflected in the series.
Headland explained: “In the same way that the original Star Wars film, A New Hope, is about a young man living in Modesto, [California], who doesn’t want to take over his dad’s hardware store… there’s just no way that me being a queer woman is not going to be reflected in my work.
“I could try not to do it, but why would I? It just feels like a natural extension of what I do.”
She added that storytelling comes down to “either the personal or emotional through-line to your characters”, which is why “your identity is important”.
Whether she is “explicitly dealing with it or not”, her queer identity “is just going to be” present, she said, noting that it’s also important there is further “representation both on screen and behind the screen”.

Star Wars has made small steps towards LGBT+ representation​

The legendary sci-fi franchise introduced its first canonically LGBT+ character in the 2015 novel Lords of the Sith. Delian Mors, a human female who is part of the Imperial order, had a wife in the book, who was tragically killed in an accident.
The expanded Star Wars universe has also welcomed a host of other LGBT+ characters including Sinjir Rath Velus, Doctor Chelli Aphra, Grand Admiral Rae Sloane and non-binary Jedi Terec and Ceret.
However, LGBT+ representation on screen has been slim. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalkermade Disney history by featuring the first gay kiss in the movie franchise, but it was criticised for its brevity.
Mark Hamill famously said that his character, Jedi hero Luke Skywalker, could be any sexuality that fans want. In 2016, he told fans: “If you think Luke is gay, of course he is.”
In an interview with the AV Club, Headland shared that she loved Hamill’s take, and she said it was “such a strong, beautiful thing for him to say”. Headland added that she screams “with happiness” whenever she sees “gay or queerrepresentation in media” – especially as a huge Star Wars fan.

Leslye Headland didn’t think it ‘was an option to be gay’​

Headland, who also co-created Netflix’s critically-acclaimed series Russian Doll with Natasha Lyonne and Amy Poehler, shared her coming out story during Pride month, in a candid essay for Variety.
She described how earlier in her career, she felt “pressure” in her personal and professional life to “present myself as a sexually desirable heterosexual woman”.
She wasn’t “consciously hiding” who she was, but felt “so separated from my queerness” that “it wasn’t even an option to be gay”.
“This was due to being raised straight and very religiously,” Headland explained.
“But also, as a female filmmaker, I had already felt so much animosity and distrust from certain collaborators that to be a ‘lesbian’, a word I had head used many times on set or in meetings as a derogatory term, seemed like a career-ending prospect.”
The Star Wars creator has been married to her wife, Rebecca Henderson, since 2016, and she told Variety that the “love story” she has with her wife is “so much more beautiful than anything I will ever write”.
 
I would think if you're trans in SW, you could just get a body transplant, considering the technology there. (Like Bib Fortuna did after the B'omarr monks removed his brain)

This is one of the inherent flaws in pushing trans in sci-fi. You literally could have surgery to pass, probably to actually biologically change. So trans wouldn't really exist after people transition. Or in any meaningful way.

I reckon if this was challenged, they'd just make up, "not passing is part of our culture."
 
This is one of the inherent flaws in pushing trans in sci-fi. You literally could have surgery to pass, probably to actually biologically change. So trans wouldn't really exist after people transition. Or in any meaningful way.

I reckon if this was challenged, they'd just make up, "not passing is part of our culture."
Science fiction writers decades ago explored all sorts of gender-related shit and the implications of technology on gender and identity but apparently all today's writers can do is recreate Current Year California LGBTBBQ norms IN SPACE. It's absolutely uncreative, but you can't say anything about it otherwise you're a queerphobic nahtsee.
 
Science fiction writers decades ago explored all sorts of gender-related shit and the implications of technology on gender and identity but apparently all today's writers can do is recreate Current Year California LGBTBBQ norms IN SPACE. It's absolutely uncreative, but you can't say anything about it otherwise you're a queerphobic nahtsee.

Yep, everything has to propaganda for the current moment.

I think they've bought too much into, everything is a social construct, the culture reinforces this. These industries then felt like they were taking charge to create a "better world." They were all sitting around going, "don't vote for the Orange man." When he won, they flipped their shit because it showed them they don't have the power they thought they had. So they've just doubled down and gone into active propaganda mode.
 
I like how all these news articles forget to indicate that Leslye Headland was Harvey Weinstein's assistant.
 
Science fiction writers decades ago explored all sorts of gender-related shit and the implications of technology on gender and identity but apparently all today's writers can do is recreate Current Year California LGBTBBQ norms IN SPACE. It's absolutely uncreative, but you can't say anything about it otherwise you're a queerphobic nahtsee.
Yeah the sci-fi setting allows one to abstract ideas and concepts and to explore them without the need to root them into modern day politics. That's probably the big problem with modern writing, they're not exploring ideas, not trying to view them from different angles or explore the different benefits and deficits.
For example they'll take modern LGBTQQIAA2SP+ and transpose that whole-cloth into a futuristic or alien setting where it doesn't mesh with the setting or the characters in that setting and then they'll only do the most superficial story possible (i.e. LGBTQQIAA2SP+ is awesome and you're literally a nazi if you don't think so).
 
Honestly, "queer" is basically disparaging, since it implies that something is "odd or abnormal". So I'm a bit unclear why it's being used as a positive slang term to begin with (nor do I really care). At least "gay" implies "happiness or carefreeness", though originally it wasn't simply used as a a synonym for "homosexual" or whatever.
It literally became a buzzword against our will
 
"Yes, we just bought the most popular sci-fi property in the history of the planet, and now we're going to pick up all that free money those stupid original creators left lying on the ground." If you find yourself ever thinking something like this, take a real long step backwards, sit down, and have think about why those super-successful original creators didn't pick up all that free money.

I'd have so much more respect for our evil overlords if they weren't pants-on-head retarded.
This kind of stupid economic theory is fucking endemic in the modern entertainment industry.

In Vidya, this manifests as the now-notorious 51% statistic (51% of people playing video games are women; you must cater to this new emergent demographic if you want to make the real money). The problem isn't even how they got to that number (which is silly in and of itself; placing mobile in along with every other platform and over-representing samples); it's how the data is being used - to argue that the moms playing candy crush are a market for big studios to tap into, and if only they make their games more diverse, then their latest game which is a different platform, genre, and gameplay experience will reap the rewards.

The thing is, mathematically, that statistic is self-evidently bullshit. Even if you discount how stupid the suggestion that someone who enjoys Match3 games would love fucking Apex Legends on PC if only there was more soccer mom options. And while I'm sure there's someone that would want such a thing (this is the Farms, after all), that's not going to be a big market.

Assume for a moment that a game has a 100% male playerbase. You aggressively go for a new market, and in the process, alienate a gigantic portion of your core fans, being sure to denigrate them as much as possible, because that is literally what all of these companies do. At the absolute best, you're going to break even. The most common scenario, however, involves them failing, financially, and hard, as the prophecized emergent demographic never really materializes.

Hollywood uses similar statistics to justify its own fuck-ups, but whereas the Vidya version you can at least vaguely figure out the underlying logic behind it, in Hollywood, you can fucking forget it. There is none, beyond forcing the plebs to accept their glorious vision (and also kowtowing to the CCP). Less than fucking five goddamn percent of Americans identify as LGBTFGSFDS, meaning there is no way in hell they can make up for the loss of alienated fans with any emerging market (even if that market was 100% real, which, as we have discussed, it is not). Not only that, but they'll have to back this shameless pandering up by completely censoring it for the international release, lest China refuse it for having THE GAY.™

There is no way this ends other than economic suicide for the company. They will continue to sit there, happily letting their parent company bleed out from a thousand self-inflicted wounds, because they only see the IPs they control as platforms to propagandize from, and they will see the IP turned to ashes before they ever allow the filthy wrongthinkers to have it. Even if it fails financially, the narrative must be maintained.

Knowing this makes watching Hollywood's flailings much more amusing, because they have no way to course-correct and there's no way in hell it's sustainable. And with China increasingly willing to tell them "No, we're not paying for this," they're going to find themselves staring down the barrel of insolvency eventually.
 
Destroying the empire was a mistake.
It's also very homophobic since according to Disney Grand Moff Tarkin and like half the Empire were gay or lesbian or some flavor of troon. And it's racist and misogynoir since their best admiral was a black woman. Except the Stormtroopers, who were all literally Nazis (and so are the people who dress up as them IRL).
 
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Just to show how staggeringly unprecedented it is to have transsexuals in space opera / SF, here's an episode of 1985's Dirty Pair.
 
Queer is meaningless. It has no meaning anymore. If someone uses the word, it typically indicates that they are fundamentally retarded. And because everything is queer, nothing is.
 
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