War Planned Parenthood flyers given to 8th graders informs students they can get abortion without parental consent


Middle school students in Tacoma, Wash. were given a flyer detailing their legal rights on sex-based issues, including their ability to get an abortion without informing their parents.

The flyer distributed by an 8th-grade teacher at Stewart Middle School frustrated some parents who thought the subject matter was inappropriate.

The school has since apologized and said the document was put together by Planned Parenthood, not the individual teacher.

The pamphlet informed students about which age groups they were allowed to have sex with, detailing that "it is not a crime" if a child is 11-years old and has "sex with somebody 2 years older or less."

The document detailed the legal parameters in which students can engage in sexual behavior between the ages of 11 to 18.

Students were also told, "You can buy condoms at any age" and that Plan B Emergency Contraception can be purchased "at a local pharmacy without prescription at any age."

"The flyer is not part of our curriculum and should not have been sent home with students," Assistant Director of Secondary Education Eric Hogan said in a letter to a concerned parent, first reported the Jason Rantz Show.

"Previously, Planned Parenthood taught within our schools and supplied the flyer that was distributed to students," Hogan wrote. "We discovered a binder of curriculum materials was left behind for an incoming teacher to use for this year, and this flyer was in the binder. Not realizing the flyer wasn’t approved material, the teacher sent it home with students."

The school said it has removed any "unapproved materials" and informed teachers and administrators to ensure this flyer is not distributed again in the future.

"Corrective action has been taken with this employee," Hogan said, apologizing on behalf of the school and district.
 
The main point I disagree with irt abortion is I don't think minors should be able to get an abortion without their parents knowing, that just opens up too many other issues, even if it's from poor education or being a budding thot. However they shouldn't be forced to carry it to term if the parents explicitly forbid the procedure, and I assume generally our laws would prefer to protect the minor.
Kids have literally died due to not being allowed to get abortions without parental consent. I cant imagine how allowing it could have worse consequences than little girls dying horribly.
pray tell me when children get their natural rights? It sounds like it happens after being a fetus and a middle school.


The end goal is pretty clear. First you normalize adolescent sexuality exploration and kiddos having sex in a middle school, no biggie. Then you establish it as normal and natural as playing ball or bed time reading. That's when pedos join in.
Most kids learn about the basics of sex in elementary. Amazingly despite knowing about it they still dont usually tend to start experimenting with it until around 14.

If pedos abuse anything, its kids not knowing about this kinda shit.
That would just fall under any other case of child care expenses though. BC is cheap, if you seriously need the state to cover a $50 monthly medical expense for your child then you are likely unfit to be raising that child in the first place.


I agree with this sentiment. It's the fact that the state keeps trying to undermine the parents role that disturbs me. Furthermore the fact that they are teaching it to 8th graders as though this is an immediate concern. Most girls don't get pregnant by the end of high school, let alone jr high. It's fucking creepy to be informing them that early and merely serves to normalize these things in children.

If an 8th grader ends up pregnant you can explain their rights to them then, that is a separate and rare scenario. Let children be children for fucks sake.
You have to know the kid is pregnant tho. Little girls who are molested and impregnated arent exactly going to be shouting it from the rooftops, they're probably gonna be terrified to tell anyone esp if the abuser threatened them. Getting that info already out there will help them know there are people they can safely go to and tell in the first place.
Well first off they shouldn't be having sex. Obviously.

My guess is an abortion. As unfortunate as that is. I don't know how many girls can survive pregnancy. I don't doubt many doctors will lie about how many can survive to get those girls the "rights" they so need.


Which includes their right to consent to sex. Or so the education you as is important says.


Lol, by that logic or act there of every genocide and massacre by a government has been perfectly legal and moral.


Why? No seriously why? Because there exists women who can't be bothered to pay for themselves?


And you know this for a fact? Because of some bullshit study?


Becky Bell died of her own idiocy. She wasn't a 13 year old but a 17 year old. An adult in all but name. She could have simply gone to Kentucky or where ever the "dont tell my parents" clinic was. However she decided to be lazy and go to some back alley doctor. Or she was so stupid she thought she could do it herself.


According to you they can consent with each other.
Blaming a child for dying horribly, very cool. And no, 11-14 year olds shouldn't be having sex but unfortunately there are predators who abuse them and girls that young (and younger) can and have gotten pregnant from it.
You don't really need to guesstimate what a fully grown baby is going to do to a minor's body, and the alternative is a c-sec which is also traumatic anyway. It'd be insidious to lie to the minor that an abortion is like getting ice cream with no lasting repurcussions, but come on man.

This thread is strange.
Yeah abortion isn't exactly happy fun times either but for a child especially can be literally lifesaving. I mentioned earlier itt but female bodies do not stop developing at menarche, full height and hip width and whatnot doesn't usually happen until around early 20s. The younger the mother, the riskier pregnancy/birth is. And yep, c section is abdominal surgery and has tons of risks on it's own.

Even with grown women its 11 times safer to abort than give birth in the US.

Plus forcing a child to gestate and birth a rape baby is some fukkin war crime shit.
It's a strange thread because pro-choicers fuse different issues together to paint their opponents as heartless monsters.

Fringe cases do not equate to an absolute majority of abortions.

And yeah, kids should not be taught "parents mustn't know about abortions" because this is exactly the shit "fundies" and "conservatives" have warned you all about for decades.
Yeah because fundies are terrified that kids knowing this shit would interfere with their ability to rape and abuse them and keep them brainwashed
 
Yeah because fundies are terrified that kids knowing this shit would interfere with their ability to rape and abuse them and keep them brainwashed
Lady, just because your "Christian" daddy diddled you doesn't mean all Christians, however their inclination, are like that. You can be safely assured that your dad will pay for what he did.
 
Lady, just because your "Christian" daddy diddled you doesn't mean all Christians, however their inclination, are like that. You can be safely assured that your dad will pay for what he did.
My dad was neither Christian nor diddled me, sorry to ruin your fapfic.

I've met people who weren't do lucky tho. If something horrible exists, someone has done it to their kids and it happens way more than people realize. If a girl is theoretically capable of being pregnant, she needs to know what to do if god forbid that happens.

It's like giving kids the good touch/bad touch or stranger danger talk. In a perfect world they'd never need that info but sadly, some kids will need it.
 
My dad was neither Christian nor diddled me, sorry to ruin your fapfic.
Not a fapfic, only an assumption as to why someone would be so relentless in zeroing in on a very particular part of the society. Otherwise, the base assumption is that you're mentally ill and somehow flew under the radar all your life. Then again, hearing how mental health in the United States is treated as a joke, not really surprising.

I've met people who weren't do lucky tho.
The mother of all vague statements.

If a girl is theoretically capable of being pregnant, she needs to know what to do if god forbid that happens.
Sneak behind parents' backs and have an abortion at an organization that was created to cull poors and niggers? Are you suggesting that every parent that opposes this approach to sexual education is a fundie?
 
You have to know the kid is pregnant tho. Little girls who are molested and impregnated arent exactly going to be shouting it from the rooftops, they're probably gonna be terrified to tell anyone esp if the abuser threatened them. Getting that info already out there will help them know there are people they can safely go to and tell in the first place.
It's kind of a catch 22. You're right that you need a proactive approach to reach abuse victims, but there comes a point where you have to question if you're proactive methods are doing more harm than the few kids you might save who would have feel through the cracks.

If we want to take things further, girls as young as 10 have been impregnated by abusers. We could argue that we need to start teaching 5th graders about abortion rights. But at what point does the state butting and going behind every parents back outweigh saving the handful of girls you might save? Realistically even if these really young girls know they can get abortions, they can't get to a clinic anyway.

EDIT: Another reason I don't favor this "think of the edge cases" approach is because authorities can justify literally anything by that. You can never save everyone and there will always be another outlier to justify more action.
 
It's kind of a catch 22. You're right that you need a proactive approach to reach abuse victims, but there comes a point where you have to question if you're proactive methods are doing more harm than the few kids you might save who would have feel through the cracks.

If we want to take things further, girls as young as 10 have been impregnated by abusers. We could argue that we need to start teaching 5th graders about abortion rights. But at what point does the state butting and going behind every parents back outweigh saving the handful of girls you might save? Realistically even if these really young girls know they can get abortions, they can't get to a clinic anyway.

EDIT: Another reason I don't favor this "think of the edge cases" approach is because authorities can justify literally anything by that. You can never save everyone and there will always be another outlier to justify more action.
They might not be able to get to the clinics but law enforcement or social workers could certainly help them

The government sucks but parents can suck even worse. Shit, didn't Oprah grow up with parents who raped her and got pregnant and shit? Like it's horrible but it happens and even saving one girl justifies the education.

Even if kids know about sex and their abortion right and what not at 11, most aren't gonna have interest in having it that young. If a kid is sexual active that young, even if it's with another kid within a year or two, that is a huge red flag that kid has been groomed and abused by someone much older.

Tl;Dr even with comprehensive sex Ed including about abortion rights any 11 year olds that turn up pregnant are almost certainly being abused and likely by a family member (since statistically kids are mostly likely to be abused by someone in their immediate family).
 
Once again:
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The fuck am I reading and why did I create this?
 
Sneak behind parents' backs and have an abortion at an organization that was created to cull poors and niggers? Are you suggesting that every parent that opposes this approach to sexual education is a fundie?
If you think a girl sneaking behind her (potentially abusive) parents back to get a safe abortion is worse than girls dying horribly from pregnancy/birth or back alley abortions you got some fucked up priorities.

Though I get the feeling you're more bothered by girls being able to safely abort than by them dying horribly or being abused by their parents.
 
The government sucks but parents can suck even worse.

thanks but no thanks, I don't need nanny state trying wipe my ass because it won't anyway. We already have dysfunctional mental health system, among other agencies leaching tax payers dry. In fact, most of them are only good at leaching, just like non-profits that lost their original cause and just continue to exist for the sake of providing its workers with livelihood, coming up with new goals for existence, no matter how perverted. Show me how you can fix some of the existing agencies on existing or lesser budget.
 
thanks but no thanks, I don't need nanny state trying wipe my ass because it won't anyway. We already have dysfunctional mental health system, among other agencies leaching tax payers dry. In fact, most of them are only good at leaching, just like non-profits that lost their original cause and just continue to exist for the sake of providing its workers with livelihood, coming up with new goals for existence, no matter how perverted. Show me how you can fix some of the existing agencies on existing or lesser budget.
The only thing leaching taxpayers dry is lawmakers hookers&blow and warmongering addictions. The few pennies that get tossed at barely existant programs to provide poor people with basic necessities are nothing compared to how many trillions of taxpayer dollars lawmakers pay themselves and use to keep blowing up weddings and hospitals and shit in the middle east.

But oh noez muh nanny state giving little girls info that could potentially save their lives and enable them to escape their shitty abusive parents, the horror
 
Do you understand just how retarded you sound when you continue to appeal to "MUH POOR ABUSED GIRLS"? Because absolutely every single fucking case of abortion in the West is about MUH GIRLS RAPED BY FUNDIES and not some hoe trying to absolve herself from not choosing a right partner and not spreading her legs a little less often.
 
Do you understand just how retarded you sound when you continue to appeal to "MUH POOR ABUSED GIRLS"? Because absolutely every single fucking case of abortion in the West is about MUH GIRLS RAPED BY FUNDIES and not some hoe trying to absolve herself from not choosing a right partner and not spreading her legs a little less often.
Ah yes middle school girls who get pregnant are clearly all hoes who can't stop spreading their legs. Middle school girls who are gonna be maybe 14 at the oldest. Definitely no abused children in that category of middle school age girls who get pregnant.
 
Ah yes middle school girls who get pregnant are clearly all hoes who can't stop spreading their legs. Middle school girls who are gonna be maybe 14 at the oldest. Definitely no abused children in that category of middle school age girls who get pregnant.
Simply put: fuck you. Skanks like you drain public empathic capacity to relate to actual victims of abuse. You screech and you screech and you screech and you parade poor, innocent, hurt little ones that were scarred for life in an attempt to have a consequence free sex.

Even dying in your own piss is too nice of a future for you, you emotionally manipulative cum-guzzling edgy fedora wearing stupid fucking whore.

You are a whore not because of your gender, but because you use people who would actually benefit from abortions. You put them on the shield and like "you don't want me to get an abortion? You literally hate victims of abuse".

How fucking dare you, you limp-wristed, cock-sucking, shit-eating cuntbag?
 
Simply put: fuck you. Skanks like you drain public empathic capacity to relate to actual victims of abuse. You screech and you screech and you screech and you parade poor, innocent, hurt little ones that were scarred for life in an attempt to have a consequence free sex.

Even dying in your own piss is too nice of a future for you, you emotionally manipulative cum-guzzling edgy fedora wearing stupid fucking whore.

You are a whore not because of your gender, but because you use people who would actually benefit from abortions. You put them on the shield and like "you don't want me to get an abortion? You literally hate victims of abuse".

How fucking dare you, you limp-wristed, cock-sucking, shit-eating cuntbag?
Damn did one of those horrible evil slutty middle schoolers abort your rape baby or something
 
But oh noez muh nanny state giving little girls info that could potentially save their lives and enable them to escape their shitty abusive parents, the horror

if you want this thread going, how about taking emotion out of it and figuring out. What percentage of middle school girls get pregnant because of an abusive predator at home vs incessant consequence free kultcha?
 
You are a heartless cunt. And the fact that you don't understand what exactly is abhorrent in what you're suggesting makes me sad for you.
Maybe, but at least I'm not going on unhinged rants about how pregnant middle schoolers are evil sluts or some shit.
if you want this thread going, how about taking emotion out of it and figuring out. What percentage of middle school girls get pregnant because of an abusive predator at home vs incessant consequence free kultcha?
Typically middle schoolers aren't having "incessant consequence free kultcha" without having been abused in some way. Middle school is generally when kids for start getting horny, sure, and some experimentation is normal for the very tail end of that age category, but if a kid that young is having nonstop sex something fucky is going on. Parental negligence at bare minimum, and likely grooming and abuse. And either way pregnancy and birth isn't safe at all for kids that young.
 
Ostatnio edytowane:
Maybe, but at least I'm not going on unhinged rants about how pregnant middle schoolers are evil sluts or some shit.
And you also have dyslexia. Well done. Or maybe not dyslexia. That makes it even worse.

>What percentage of middle school girls get pregnant because of an abusive predator at home vs incessant consequence free kultcha?

Feel free to answer this question.
 
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