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Anyway, back on topic, this creature
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I agree with everything said here. There is no punch to it. Being called a “TERF” has no effect on anyone anymore. Every woman, especially every lesbian, is simply a “TERF”.

I reckon the majority of women who get called terves/now refer to ourselves as terves are really just version of say, Posie Parker and Karen from ‘You’re Kiddin’ Right?’ - we’d all get booted from the purity spiral of true TERF Club, either for marrying men, or wearing lipstick or hanging out with men at the sports bar rather than only socialising with fellow dykes.
Some of us have even, shock horror, given birth to FUTURE OPPRESSORS! Who we love!

Karen’s stuff cracks me up (especially when she is going through her own comment section or looking at FtM frankensausagedick). Can’t post her in the terves thread because I am laughing with her, not at her. She must surely have an account on the farms?



As for being kinder to FtMs, I maybe started out that way, but actually, some of the most influential, most misogynistic activists at the top of various orgs are female (Stephen Whittle, Strange Chasio, James Morton of the Scottish Troons Alliance etc plus female troons are often the Trojan horses used to push through legislation eg Gavin Grimm) so they’ve used up the dribble of sympathy I once had. Even the trans YouTuber who gets my hackles up quickest is female, ‘Jammidodger’ aka Jamie Raines.

I just post fewer ladytroons because they don’t make for such funny/repulsive images.

Nowadays I save any remaining crumbs of compassion for the (male or female) children/adolescents/younger adults who get groomed into early surgery and the ones whose cross sex identities are the result of extreme trauma (like the little girl who witnessed her mam’s murder and wanted to be a boy, because a boy might’ve been strong enough to save her mum).

Anyway, that’s today’s compassion quota used up. Have a troon:


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Pass?
Hard pass.
for some unfathomable reason, I imagine this man smells like ham?

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Also, FaceTuned to fuck!

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7 years ago he was posting on ‘Malepolish’

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would put money on his marriage failing recently.

Why is troonery the new midlife crisis?
What happened to fast cars and fucking the secretary?
 
I really think that some TiFs do pass enough to actually go stealth.
its not (just) about passing. passing perfectly on its own will only affect how strangers who dont know you treat you, and that doesn't really mean anything cause interactions with complete strangers dont really impact life in a meaningful way
what does matter is how people with whom you interact frequently treat you (boss, coworkers, friends, family, etc) and fooling all of those is basically impossible cause they already know your real sex anyway, or at least see/suspect it but go along and play pretend out of courtesy and pity

Here's something I've been wondering:
It is said often that MTF trans people are men imitating the women they are attracted to, "their type." The female image they imitate is very idealized, and usually doesn't resemble real women at all. Yet, many of these people seemed to have started out as shlubby, dorky beta males who had nothing much going for them.
Why is it that they strive to be their best selves as "women," but not as men? Why do they find it so freeing to be women? Do they see the idealized woman as attainable, but the idealized man as not? Or are they just too autistic to have real self-awareness, and only think of the kind of person they're attracted to?
because dressing up in lingerie and larping as slutty schoolgirls makes their coomer brains release endorphins

also their idea of an "ideal woman" is a stripper/pornstar whose sole purpose in life is making coomers coom, which to them seems a lot more achievable than their idea of an ideal man (rich, successful, muscular, high status chad)
 
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I reckon the majority of women who get called terves/now refer to ourselves as terves are really just version of say, Posie Parker and Karen from ‘You’re Kiddin’ Right?’ - we’d all get booted from the purity spiral of true TERF Club, either for marrying men, or wearing lipstick or hanging out with men at the sports bar rather than only socialising with fellow dykes.
Some of us have even, shock horror, given birth to FUTURE OPPRESSORS! Who we love!
I wouldn't say that's so much true. Many women, TERFs included, have male family members and/ or friends that they truly care about. It's not so much associating with or loving men as much as it is condoning oppressive behavior from those men.
 
I reckon the majority of women who get called terves/now refer to ourselves as terves are really just version of say, Posie Parker and Karen from ‘You’re Kiddin’ Right?’ - we’d all get booted from the purity spiral of true TERF Club, either for marrying men, or wearing lipstick or hanging out with men at the sports bar rather than only socialising with fellow dykes.
Some of us have even, shock horror, given birth to FUTURE OPPRESSORS! Who we love!

Karen’s stuff cracks me up (especially when she is going through her own comment section or looking at FtM frankensausagedick). Can’t post her in the terves thread because I am laughing with her, not at her. She must surely have an account on the farms?

I find it funny that TRAs tend to completely ignore black women like Karen. I would think one of their major targets would be Lipstick Alley (shit-post forum for black women), but nope. I assume black women still have more oppression points for them to properly go after them (plus unlike white handmaidens they don't tend to give a fuck).
 
Even as 'men' ftms retain the benefit of this 'benevolent sexism' that seems to be biologically encoded into all of us, you can't fool the instinctual part of the brain, and so they retain the full benefit of the considerable western female privilege. Never to be held accountable for their histrionic entitled bullshit. Just compare they way we talk about ftms vs the venom (rightly) directed at MtFs.
I feel like you're over-complicating it as an excuse to dunk on 'muh female privilege'.

TIFs catch less shit because it's much easier for the average woman to pass as an androgynous manlet than it is for the average man to pass as a bolt-on bimbo, especially when the latter tend to dress like Vegas prostitutes whereas from what I've seen most TIFs just dress like normal guys or butch lesbians.

I think both are mentally ill, but TIFs only elicit pity from me, whereas I find TIMs physically repulsive because they're essentially doing female blackface without the (intentional) comedy.
 
This ↓ is absolutely part of the answer.

If you spend any time on fitness forums with a large male userbase, you start to see the meme "All women need to do is be thin to be attractive." These men don't realize this statement is not only untrue but it also implies that women are only trying to be attractive to men and are not in active competition with one another (something that the people in this thread also clearly do not understand).
A woman, to this type of shlubby man, is just a non-man who gets to laze around and be taken care of by men. That's what they want. They want to be their normal sit-on-the-couch-and-masturbate selves but also have someone else provide for them financially, emotionally, sexually, etc.
Being conventionally attractive takes a lot of effort, but I do think the majority of thin women are at least okay looking, even without makeup. Whereas men, as we’ve discussed on here before, are more likely to be at the outliers of any given scale than in the middle, including attractiveness. Autistic men are also more likely to have minor physical abnormalities (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_physical_anomalies) and I know we’ve had MTFs on here who clearly had other facially disfiguring genetic conditions. If a given ugly MTF had been born female he would’ve been more attractive.
 
Here's something I've been wondering:

It is said often that MTF trans people are men imitating the women they are attracted to, "their type." The female image they imitate is very idealized, and usually doesn't resemble real women at all. Yet, many of these people seemed to have started out as shlubby, dorky beta males who had nothing much going for them.

Why is it that they strive to be their best selves as "women," but not as men? Why do they find it so freeing to be women? Do they see the idealized woman as attainable, but the idealized man as not? Or are they just too autistic to have real self-awareness, and only think of the kind of person they're attracted to?
In my many years in the field of troonery I would say that often as Gender Non Conforming and Socially Awkward men they have a really hard time fitting in and getting attention in the ways that men usually so. I also think there is that whole "become the waifu" tie in. Also, there is an overwhelming consensus that being a woman is life on easy mode. They are jealous of what they "perceive" womanhood to be: Basically to be a sex object that doesn't have to work or think or care for itself. To basically shed the burden of real life responsibility. The female imagery comes right out of textbook misogyny - showing women as being weak submissive sex dolls.

Deep down I think they know that they are men but we are talking deep in the hidden gooey layers of ones ego and psyche. After all - if this was some part of there would not be so much cognitive dissonance.

The parts of womanhood that are idealized are always the toxic and shallow parts. There is never a caring for the sick, selfless raising of children, or bearing of pain with grace. MtFs seethe with deep levels of misogyny. Even the non screeching "good ones" will let it slip about their bimbofication fetishes eventually...

Trans people suffer from a mind body disconnect and that is why they do not have an authentic self. Narcissists also have this (I am starting to believe more and more every year that transgenderism is a manifestation of NPD) and when you don't have a "self" you have to create a whole lot of copium bull shit to exist. Why aren't they trying to be their best selves as men? They look inward and see a void. Emptiness. That is the source of their despair - not their bodies. Every single one I have known had intense feelings of emptiness. We cannot be our best selves if we have lost the ability to see ourselves.
 
Why is it that they strive to be their best selves as "women," but not as men? Why do they find it so freeing to be women? Do they see the idealized woman as attainable, but the idealized man as not? Or are they just too autistic to have real self-awareness, and only think of the kind of person they're attracted to?
It's less that they're striving to be the best woman they can be, but more the most exaggerated stereotype of what a 'true' woman is in their eyes, because it's the furthest thing possible from what they really are: a broken and worthless failure of a man.

The vast majority of troons aren't really trying to become women imo, they just want to be anything other than themselves, similar to that cat man who ultimately necked himself.
 
Terfs helped build the feminist movement. They are an integral part of it. If you are a feminist (of whatever kind), terfs are your sisters. Deal with it ffs.

Women aren't in any way shape or form "oppressed" in the west in the current year FFS, it's the quite literal opposite.
What has this place been allowed to turn into....

You say the most ridiculous shit. Always cracks me up. :)

Also, there is an overwhelming consensus that being a woman is life on easy mode.

You know, MtFs aren't the only men who think like this.
 
In my many years in the field of troonery I would say that often as Gender Non Conforming and Socially Awkward men they have a really hard time fitting in and getting attention in the ways that men usually so. I also think there is that whole "become the waifu" tie in. Also, there is an overwhelming consensus that being a woman is life on easy mode. They are jealous of what they "perceive" womanhood to be: Basically to be a sex object that doesn't have to work or think or care for itself. To basically shed the burden of real life responsibility. The female imagery comes right out of textbook misogyny - showing women as being weak submissive sex dolls.

Deep down I think they know that they are men but we are talking deep in the hidden gooey layers of ones ego and psyche. After all - if this was some part of there would not be so much cognitive dissonance.

The parts of womanhood that are idealized are always the toxic and shallow parts. There is never a caring for the sick, selfless raising of children, or bearing of pain with grace. MtFs seethe with deep levels of misogyny. Even the non screeching "good ones" will let it slip about their bimbofication fetishes eventually...

Trans people suffer from a mind body disconnect and that is why they do not have an authentic self. Narcissists also have this (I am starting to believe more and more every year that transgenderism is a manifestation of NPD) and when you don't have a "self" you have to create a whole lot of copium bull shit to exist. Why aren't they trying to be their best selves as men? They look inward and see a void. Emptiness. That is the source of their despair - not their bodies. Every single one I have known had intense feelings of emptiness. We cannot be our best selves if we have lost the ability to see ourselves.
Exactly. Troonery is a maladaptive coping mechanism. The transgender self becomes a pseudo-false self designed to hide the pain from the injured true self. This would explain why reality intruding on troons is met with hostility that looks like n-rage. Like narcissism, troonery is highly performative, you have to keep reasserting that you are trans or otherwise committed to the cause if you want that flow of acceptance to keep the bad feelings tamped down.
 
Why is there a weird fixation on young girls from trannies?
Because trannies are obsessed with the fact they never had a "female" childhood/puberty. They have a very warped view (due largely to anime and porn) of what a "female" upbringing is, and because they were "denied" this, they are fixated on it. They think a female upbringing means slumber parties, lesbian orgies, getting hit on all the time, wearing striped thigh high socks, being a bimbo, etc.

And, a lot of them are pedophiles.
 
Someone post that "You have 10 seconds to give her a reason why she's not transracial, that I can't use against you." comic.
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I don't think Dawkins should've tried assuaging them in response to the initial backlash. Any sort of acquiescence is like blood in the water for the woke Twitter cabal, I doubt they'll stop at taking a 25 year old award from him
 
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Perhaps you're not fully convinced, you didn't delude yourself enough and are still having small moments of clarity.
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Same thing here, you see a male because... guess what, you are one.
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Does he look like a woman to you? Face betrays it all.
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Now this one fucking sucks. The wife effectively lost her husband to a mental illness, and he's wondering she's not taking it well? I feel bad for her. I'm also wondering what goes through the trannies heads in those situations. Since they believe they become what they LARP as, they expect their spouses to become bisexual? One of the comments in the thread suggested that the wife should "read trans literature". Will that make her attracted to the freak her husband has become?

And all of this because they think they are something they aren't - and will never be.
 
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