The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[ForTheHoard]

Well I lived in a country in a civil war state and it sucked hard. Mainly because the probability of being killed by some asshole with a grudge, a thief breaking in or a soldier who had been up 72 hours straight from a hostile area being quick on the draw was not only high it was a 24/7 thing. Most of the time nothing happened but it could happen all of the time. Not a pleasant way to live especially when there were food shortages, which was all the time.

It's not that hard to see your friends and families on the faces of the people you end up killing, so I don't think it's that big of a stretch. Either way, you've got hundreds of thousands of well trained and well armed dudes with fighting experience that were more than happy to die in Iraq. Imagine what they'd do in their own neighborhoods. The point about optimal conditions in war doesn't really exist, at least not in my experience. Any retard can kill you extremely easily if they want to, and you have to wait 20 minutes for permission to shoot back at the people shooting at you. Take the chains off and that war is over in a couple weeks. Fighting for the "good guys" in a forever war fucking sucks because you're not allowed to win.

 

[DeadFish]

I don't give a drunken jigging fuck if someone calls me a bad person. There have been people out there for years now trying to teach people things the easy way, the way that doesn't involve a lot of pain and suffering, and frankly I'm going to say that the only thing that will teach people something that will stick in their smooth brains and maybe make some wrinkles at this point is pain. Lots and lots of pain and anguish.

America won't change until it gets a new world view. Just like the black plague people will keep thinking it's worn out ways until something extreme happens.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

Man you know what could make your heart go into arrest?

A lack of oxygen.

An arterial clog would be a lack of oxygen reaching the heart too.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

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An arterial clog would be a lack of oxygen reaching the heart too.

It would, it would be really great if the defense has an expert to say that.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

A Civil War in the US would be a spectacularly bad idea. Shit, Bosnia and Rwanda were broken down along ethnic and religious lines so you knew which side you were on and which side you were not on.

Is the Korean at the corner store on your side or not? How about the white guy who is growing weed? The cute blonde chick buying a pistol? The successful Mexican border patrol agent with three kids in college?

A candidate with the right combination of policies (civic nationalism, a limited but sturdy safety net, an entrepreneurial heart, and the relaxation of a lot of things in a more libertarian direction) could break everything we think we know about politics in this country. Trump was close; I think the next person will be closer.

 

[Bosmadden]

You are assuming an honest and impartial jury. While the case is supposedly beyond a reasonable doubt and the jury will be reminded of that fact it will probably come down to chauvin having to prove innocence as much as the prosecution have to show guilt.

I'm still betting on a mistrial though, there will almost certainly be someone on that jury who is going to vote guilty nomatter what and probably someone equally on the acquittal side. Everything is too polarised and even if the jury say they haven't seen everything about the case they will have seen way more than they think. I'm not even from America and I couldn't not have heard all about the evil racsit cop murdering the black guy while he cried for his mum from the media.

If I was on the jury I'd 100% vote guilty for something.

Any jury member who doesn't vote yes will have their identity leaked to the media and will be pilloried as a white supremacist. (Yeah even the black ones) They'll have reporters calling them, they risk being fired from their job, joggers and antifag will show up at their house. It's not much of a stretch to think they'll be physically attacked or even killed.

I'm going to risk the life of my children to defend a cop? Nah

Chauvin is innocent, in a non clown world he would never have been charged, but every member of that jury will be well aware of what faces them if they don't convict. Chauvin's only hope is for 1 jury member being brave or stupid enough to step up and we end up with a mistrial. But chances are they'll be looking to convict him of the lesser charge and will latch on to any evidence presented that will let them do so with a clear conscience.

 

[BiggerChungus]

A Civil War in the US would be a spectacularly bad idea. Shit, Bosnia and Rwanda were broken down along ethnic and religious lines so you knew which side you were on and which side you were not on.

Is the Korean at the corner store on your side or not? How about the white guy who is growing weed? The cute blonde chick buying a pistol? The successful Mexican border patrol agent with three kids in college?

A candidate with the right combination of policies (civic nationalism, a limited but sturdy safety net, an entrepreneurial heart, and the relaxation of a lot of things in a more libertarian direction) could break everything we think we know about politics in this country. Trump was close; I think the next person will be closer.

You're also not gonna get a civil war in a major nation without some kind of buildup or foreign backing from another major power. Even in a case like the Troubles it was decades of guerrilla attacks and hit-and-run encounters and not a full blown conventional war. I don't think a civil war could ever reasonably happen (again) in the US, it just depends on how much the administration wants to allow riots and shit to happen. Chaz and other tardouts like it could've been dispersed and shut down in an hour (that's assuming a very slow and careful approach) had authorities wanted to, but they didn't because it serviced a specific agenda. The people on top are so far removed from everything that whether or not our lives get worse because of all this they're completely unaffected. At best they're apathetic, at worst they want this shit to happen for political machinations.

 

[Niggernerd]

You're also not gonna get a civil war in a major nation without some kind of buildup or foreign backing from another major power

Rednecks are basically just Russians without the vodka addiction. So i guess we can guess a future backer of the civil war.

 

[That Guy Who Likes The Chili]

Are there? So far I've had two experts tell the Jury, and have pretty good testimony, that it was from a lack of oxygen. The defense needs some serious experts to actually cast that doubt on what the experts have said so far. That hasn't been done yet.

Will it be done? We'll see.

Have you ever been choked or had your airway cut off at any point in your life then attempted to scream for help? Its completely impossible.

The very fact that Floyd was able to keep screaming at the top of his lungs while apparently suffocating to death, WHILE also suffering no damage to any of his surrounding tissues and muscles according to the autopsy should be the #1 focus.
If you think you can scream and carry on with the amount of bullshit Floyd did while also not being able to breathe you should probably wrap a belt around your neck and try yourself.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

If I was on the jury I'd 100% vote guilty for something.

Any jury member who doesn't vote yes will have their identity leaked to the media and will be pilloried as a white supremacist.

Doubtful. Also, who cares? Take a nice paycheck from the feds and state from failing to protect you, grab the money and live in some Asain country as a king.

 

[Bosmadden]

A Civil War in the US would be a spectacularly bad idea. Shit, Bosnia and Rwanda were broken down along ethnic and religious lines so you knew which side you were on and which side you were not on.

Is the Korean at the corner store on your side or not? How about the white guy who is growing weed? The cute blonde chick buying a pistol? The successful Mexican border patrol agent with three kids in college?

A candidate with the right combination of policies (civic nationalism, a limited but sturdy safety net, an entrepreneurial heart, and the relaxation of a lot of things in a more libertarian direction) could break everything we think we know about politics in this country. Trump was close; I think the next person will be closer.

Trump is a civ nat boomer. An eighties Democrat with a milquetoast agenda. Shit he even went into bat for black criminals and pushed for 'criminal justice reform". If Trump went into politics a couple of decades ago he absolutely would have been on the blue team.

But if you hadn't noticed the left viewed him as literally Hitler and would happily murder him and put all of his supporters in Gulags.

There is no going back to some mythical centrist position. A significant proportion of the country has descended into a religious mania and are escalating rapidly. A moderate politician has no hope of combating this given that many of our largest corporations and government bureaucracies are controlled by the cultists. There's only 2 ways I see this going, either the prog left has their way and we end up in a totalitarian dictatorship complete with mandated public struggle sessions and mass internment camps or a no shit fascist comes to power who will do what needs to be done. Either way mass death seems inevitable. I'm very pessimistic about what's coming.

 

[briantheblessed]

If I was on the jury I'd 100% vote guilty for something.

Any jury member who doesn't vote yes will have their identity leaked to the media and will be pilloried as a white supremacist. (Yeah even the black ones) They'll have reporters calling them, they risk being fired from their job, joggers and antifag will show up at their house. It's not much of a stretch to think they'll be physically attacked or even killed.

I'm going to risk the life of my children to defend a cop? Nah

Chauvin is innocent, in a non clown world he would never have been charged, but every member of that jury will be well aware of what faces them if they don't convict. Chauvin's only hope is for 1 jury member being brave or stupid enough to step up and we end up with a mistrial. But chances are they'll be looking to convict him of the lesser charge and will latch on to any evidence presented that will let them do so with a clear conscience.

hyperbole imo

even in clown world our justice systems are some of the few semi-robust institutions we have left

even fucking chauvin has managed to live free and unscratched on the outside following his bail

 

[Bosmadden]

Doubtful. Also, who cares? Take a nice paycheck from the feds and state from failing to protect you, grab the money and live in some Asain country as a king.

For sure the FBI, who took a knee during the riots, will not offer protection, goes without saying.

The cops have no obligation to protect any member of the public from any crime. For sure you could try to sue them for letting Antifa burn your house down with your kids inside, but you'd lose. Also you'd be dead.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

A candidate with the right combination of policies (civic nationalism, a limited but sturdy safety net, an entrepreneurial heart, and the relaxation of a lot of things in a more libertarian direction) could break everything we think we know about politics in this country. Trump was close; I think the next person will be closer.

fortunately (?) the elections are now fortified with a secret cabal that decides which laws to follow and when

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Even in a case like the Troubles it was decades of guerrilla attacks and hit-and-run encounters and not a full blown conventional war.

One thought I had that didn't make it into the last post is that not knowing what side anyone's on would seem to lead directly to the formation of little paramilitary bands, each with their own agenda. They might consolidate, they might not.

But if the first person thinks the first stop is CNN, the second person thinks the first stop is High Country News, the third person thinks the first stop is the BLM, the fourth person thinks the first stop is the other BLM, the fifth person thinks the first stop is the Tenacious Unicorn Ranch...

To win hearts and minds, you need a narrative that appeals to normies. Blowing up the BLM office in Ely, Nevada is not exactly going to get people storming the barricades.

 

[bawtism]

China went isolationist in the 15th century. See the economic boom they've enjoyed since opening trade in the '70s and beyond.

Japan was also famously isolationist until the Perry Expedition and the end of the shogunate in the mid-1800s. Japan opened up, quickly modernized, and blossomed into an empire that whipped Russia's ass before WWI.

North Korea is as isolationist as they come and, well, they're North Korea.

Okin

 

[GhostButt]

A Civil War in the US would be a spectacularly bad idea.

we're assuming state vs boog, but it'll probibly be blacks vs everyone, hispanics and libs will be attacked by blacks and end up at least partially allied with the right, and that is such a giant majority it's an instant win after news of a single big battle where blacks are put down hard. Left and right then decide to "come together" and basically recreate the neolibs in neocon skinsuits (and viseversa,) like we've had since forever.

 

[ForTheHoard]

we're assuming state vs boog, but it'll probibly be blacks vs everyone, hispanics and libs will be attacked by blacks and end up at least partially allied with the right, and that is such a giant majority it's an instant win after news of a single big battle where blacks were put down, left and right decide to "come together" and basically recreate the neolibs in neocon skinsuits and viseversa, like we've had since forever.

It would likely be that gangs take over the cities and rednecks control everything else. At least that's how it tends to happen throughout history. Armed + organized seems to be the equation for success in a societal downfall.

 

[Cubanodun]

A Civil War in the US would be a spectacularly bad idea.

Imagine giving reasons to all banana countries that put USA as a example of the dangers of capitalism to be smug about, Iran and China just having a good laugh that their sworn enemies are destroying themselves all in the name of equality

 

[Aldeland]

we're assuming state vs boog, but it'll probibly be blacks vs everyone, hispanics and libs will be attacked by blacks and end up at least partially allied with the right, and that is such a giant majority it's an instant win after news of a single big battle where blacks are put down hard. Left and right then decide to "come together" and basically recreate the neolibs in neocon skinsuits (and viseversa,) like we've had since forever.

You aren't taking into account the whites that have drunk the BLM flavor aid and also antifa/extreme leftists. However unlikely civil war is in the US, it would be one of the most massive clusterfucks the world has ever seen IMO.