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more specifically, it would have to be their actual fathers, cause nobody else has the necessary intimacy and clout required to even discuss subjects like that with an adolescent boy (and you dont want strange men to get intimate with other peoples kids either)
Actually, this is not strictly true; fathers matter, yes, but teenagers in general and boys in particular gravitate more toward their peers, and you see this behavior in other contexts as well, such as young teens or even preteens joining gangs early and becoming criminals. A father's influence is important, but I'd say their peer group matters more. If the at-risk boy is a friendless autist, then yeah...
 
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more specifically, it would have to be their actual fathers, cause nobody else has the necessary intimacy and clout required to even discuss subjects like that with an adolescent boy (and you dont want strange men to get intimate with other peoples kids either)

Well, I was supposing that since they’d be coaching them out of degeneracy that they would not be degenerate males.

But of course the father is always best. Problem with a lot of them is weak/absent dads
 
Actually, this is not strictly true; fathers matter, yes, but teenagers in general and boys in particular gravitate more toward their peers, and you see this behavior in other contexts as well, such as young teens or even preteens joining gangs early and becoming criminals. A father's influence is important, but I'd say their peer group matters more. If the at-risk boy is a friendless autist, then yeah...
falling into the gang life usually happens when either your father is absent, or when he's a criminal himself
peer group influence happening in the first place depends on parents (fathers) lack of effort and attention leaving a hole which the peer group can fill, early parental influence also plays a huge role in which peer group the kid will fall in with

until a couple years ago i would have said strict internet monitoring is enough to keep kids away from troonery but they're spreading to schools and have gotten teachers and administrators on their side, spreading their poison to the students, so i honestly don't know how to deal with it at all (short of homeschooling which is literally illegal in many countries)

Well, I was supposing that since they’d be coaching them out of degeneracy that they would not be degenerate males.

But of course the father is always best. Problem with a lot of them is weak/absent dads
"coach" them out of degeneracy? you'd havet to full on deprogram them, which is impossible cause the state would throw you in jail for conversion therapy if you tried.
only way to cure a troon is to prevent him from falling for it in the first place, which only the parents are in position to do
 
more specifically, it would have to be their actual fathers, cause nobody else has the necessary intimacy and clout required to even discuss subjects like that with an adolescent boy (and you dont want strange men to get intimate with other peoples kids either)
Not exactly. Fathers work when they’re normal, non-degenerates role models, but what do you do when your father is absent, or worse, degenerate themselves. Mild powerlevel, but I’m willing to bet my uncle buying hookers led to both my cousins becoming rapists.
 
I’m not sure how much a father telling his teenage son to not watch porn is going to help. The coomer meme has done more to shame young men out of porn addiction than any priest or feminist ever could.

Now that having been said, what I do think parents are responsible for is adequately socializing their autistic sons.
 
falling into the gang life usually happens when either your father is absent, or when he's a criminal himself
peer group influence happening in the first place depends on parents (fathers) lack of effort and attention leaving a hole which the peer group can fill, early parental influence also plays a huge role in which peer group the kid will fall in with

until a couple years ago i would have said strict internet monitoring is enough to keep kids away from troonery but they're spreading to schools and have gotten teachers and administrators on their side, spreading their poison to the students, so i honestly don't know how to deal with it at all (short of homeschooling which is literally illegal in many countries)
If you are talking about general upbringing and instilling sound values into your offspring, I would agree with your assessment here, but when it comes to things like sexual degeneracy, most fathers (or mothers, for that matter) want to desperately avoid thinking about their child's sexuality let alone confront them about it, and rightly so, because it would be needlessly intrusive, and teenagers deserve a high degree of privacy in that regard.

The problem with autogynephilia is that it's already quite advanced in clinical morbidity when it manifests to outsiders in the form of mom's/sister's panties going missing or partial cross-dressing. The boy who engages in these behaviors has likely spent years beating off to tranny porn and self-inserting as a troon by the time he begins to entertain the idea of "transitioning". Parents are often completely floored when their teen son tells them he wants to be a girl. If the kid has a peer group with sound values and older boys who can show him what it means to be a man in a positive way, it's much less likely that he'll be groomed by Reddit degenerates "CandiXXXsissy" and "KawaiiAnimeWaifu83" online.
 
As someone who agrees with some of what radfems say (however, they'll never accept me into their ranks because I do not hate men, realize that men have their own problems in life and they also deserve to have "men only" spaces, and that the only way this troon shit will get put down is by both men and women), the reason they are more concerned about FTMs than MTFs, is generally, unless a MTF gets the cock chop, the effects of estrogen are not as permanent or irreversible like there is with testosterone. There is also the fact that there are much more young girls and women trooning out, not due because they have gender dysphoria, but are instead wrapped up into this social hysteria. ROGD is a real thing, and I encourage people here to read the book, Irreversible Damage. (Which the author was extremely respectful to the trans people she interviewed, and explicitly stated that transition does work for some individuals, however, all these individuals she interviewed trooned out after they legally became adults, not before. And Buck, despite my feelings toward her, is adamant that medical transition and surgeries should absolutely not be allowed for minors. I'm sure though after the backlash and hate Abigail Shrier received, she is staunchly a TERF now).

In order for a male to get major and irreversible surgeries (namely, the stinkditch), they have to be at least 18, and if they're younger, they generally have to go through a lot of legal loopholes to make it happen. But there's not a huge push for SRS for MTFs, as evidenced by how many keep their dick. However, girls as young as 12 are getting mastectomies, and in fact, are encouraged to do so, whether they're FTM or nonbinary. And the doctors are extremely callous about this, and when asked "what if they change their mind/regret this"? they coldly reply "they can get breast implants".

And like I said, the effects of testosterone don't magically reverse if a girl/woman stops taking it. Their clit and labia remain engorged, their voice is permanently fucked up, and even with laser hair removal, they still struggle with facial and excessive body hair. And literally every woman who is on long term testosterone use has to have a hysterectomy, due to how T fucks with a woman's body and sexual reproductive organs.

MTFs, if they quit taking estrogen, there's very little side effects, and if they grew manboobs (which rarely grow bigger than an A cup), they can easily get surgery to fix that. So, not that this is a competition, but women are much more effected by HRT than men and there isn't really a way to fix their problems. Radfems are horrified and concerned about young boys getting trooned out (especially as it fucks up their sexual development), but young girls are surpassing the amount of boys trooning out and getting irreversible medical procedures. And a lot of these girls are suffering from more complicated reasons for their gender dysphoria, as seen by the Keira Bell case, but not getting proper treatment for it.

And, as seen by that one dude that was on Jazz's show, Noelle or whatever, he trooned out purely for fetishistic reasons. I believe he said he was influenced by watching the lesbian scenes in Orange is the New Black, or something like that. And obviously, he's not faring well, especially since after he got SRS (he was 17 I believe). But unlike Jazz, he got to have natural puberty, so his surgery wasn't quite the horrifying experimental surgery that Jazz went through. However, again, he didn't experience actual dysphoria, but wanted to become a women purely to be a lesbian and have that hot lesbian action. I feel pity for him, but then again, he only wanted to transition due to fetishistic reasons, as do a majority of men.
 
. Gay men should use our social capital/power/whatever to support that and to have a focus on the gay male youth that's being led down that path, which isn't very many, as far as I can tell from the studies that are available
We should do nothing of the sort. The last thing gay men need is to also be accused of grooming the youth.
 
The row in Ireland about the number of trannys in prison rumbles on in Twitter

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Someone makes the point that if the number of troons in Ireland were so high then they must be completely lazy fuckers to get up off their arses to get an easy to obtain "no issues in Ireland" GRC

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But, there's MORE!!! Look who invited himself into the debate!!

The serial killer lookalike himself!

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If this was the other way round, the English man would be told to fuck off, "Brits out", "have no right to speak about IRISH matters" "Brits are bastards" etc. Yet the Irish TRAs have no qualms in letting Josh Prior getting his spake in. Irish TERFS seem to be well able to handle him.
 
Yeah, I don’t think a bunch of women are exactly the crowd that can save a bunch of middle school porn addicted boys from trooning out. I mean, teenage boy troons are among the crowd gleefully threatening women and girls with rape and murder for not wanting to have sex with troons. The only people who can help these boys become less degenerate are men. Males simply *do not listen to females* and they especially don’t when what we’re saying is, maybe watch less porn and pursue less deviant and unwholesome hobbies. The only thing women and girls saying that does is make them want to show us that mere females cannot CONTROL THEM.
I disagree. What these kids need is for society as a whole to come together and help them. Both men and women play a role in raising boys into men and one can not put the responsibility on men alone to keep them in check.
 
Sam Blanckensee, a grand, handsome Irish lad and Sarah R. Phillips, a beautiful wee Irish lass who deserves to be on the Rose of Tralee are both members of TENI. Begorrah, so stunnin' and brave™!
 
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The row in Ireland about the number of trannys in prison rumbles on in Twitter

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Someone makes the point that if the number of troons in Ireland were so high then they must be completely lazy fuckers to get up off their arses to get an easy to obtain "no issues in Ireland" GRC

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But, there's MORE!!! Look who invited himself into the debate!!

The serial killer lookalike himself!

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If this was the other way round, the English man would be told to fuck off, "Brits out", "have no right to speak about IRISH matters" "Brits are bastards" etc. Yet the Irish TRAs have no qualms in letting Josh Prior getting his spake in. Irish TERFS seem to be well able to handle him.
If Ireland goes full multicultural and balkanizes itself after "reunification", I expect there to be a bigger cultural troubles between multiple factions of society, one being between the TRA's and Radfems. The two acronyms sound like paramilitary abbreviations. I wouldn't be surprised if the two sides started to go down the way of paramilitaries. TRA's backed by Irish government, GCF's backed by the Brits with a war stretching from Lagosdublin to Londonderry and Belfast.
 
If Ireland goes full multicultural and balkanizes itself after "reunification", I expect there to be a bigger cultural troubles between multiple factions of society, one being between the TRA's and Radfems. The two acronyms sound like paramilitary abbreviations. I wouldn't be surprised if the two sides started to go down the way of paramilitaries.
trannies are way too fucked in the head to ever be a militant force, and radfems are women so no militancy either
basically it's never going beyond twitter bitching and internet autism
 
We should do nothing of the sort. The last thing gay men need is to also be accused of grooming the youth.
I respectfully disagree. Though I'm not a gay man, the inevitable backlash against the troons is going to affect LGB as well, since they are now all under the same organization. There has been a decline of support for LGB, and it's all due to the T. The best for homos, lesbians, and bisexuals is to actively fight to separate from the the T+ as it's clear that the T has nothing to do whatsoever with LGBs. And yes, that means taking an active course in preventing children who might be gay, or simply gender nonconforming from getting trooned out. And LGBs (at least the ones I know), are starting to wake up to the transing of kids, and have seen that troons care nothing about them, nor respect their sexualities, other than purely validation reasons. And we all see how the T and their activists immediately use homophobic slurs and conversion therapy that I think are even worse than from the religious nuts and hardcore conservatives.

Trust me, gay guys can't groom children any worse than how the troons are grooming children, especially with how so many troons are clear pedophiles, show pedophiliac tendencies, or are sympathetic to pedophiles (ala Aimee Challenor/Knight). The best thing for gay men (and lesbians, though they've being fighting it longer than gay men), is to actively take a stand against troons, and show they are fighting to protect children, whether those kids end up becoming gay, bi, or just gender nonconforming, or goddamn normal child exploration. Thanks to the super straight movement, normies are seeing what the LGB have been dealing with for years, and a lot of those normies are/will gladly join into beating down the troon cult.

If LGBs don't want this debacle to end badly and causing society to view them like they do troons, then they must actively stand up and fight back, and show that LGB goals are nothing like the troon goals. Despite how you might face backlash now, it's going to be nothing compared to the backlash when society thinks lesbians and gays were complicit in the troon's insidious movement and condemns them alongside the troons.

Kick the T out. Be vocal about it. Let people know LGB is about sexuality, and the T is a mental delusion and fetishistic men. LGB is grounded in reality. The T is not.

I know with current social climate, speaking out can get you extreme backlash, blacklisting, and becoming an outcast. But, welcome to the club of us other outcasts! We might have different sexualities, backgrounds, races, beliefs, but we are all united in standing against this cult, their using our children as medical experiments, and the predators who have joined the T so they can be sexual deviants that are protected as a "oppressed minority".
 
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