It didn't occur to me earlier but this really reminded me of why I hate Greg: The gross misogynistic language between Greg and June, who were literally fiancees. I know June definitely didn't date him because he sounded like good husband/father material or something. He had more red flags than China. If Greg had ever actually knocked up June, Greg would have most likely still kept thirsting after troons and finding lame excuses to not move in with her. (And June just pretending not to care the whole time, because cool doormat girlfriend lel xd #notacoalburner).
Still, June could probably become a single mom and have kids that way, creating some of the most mentally ill fatherless kids ever. Or she could have had (barf) Greg's kids by poking a hole in the condom when she had the chance. But most women would not be happy just "popping out babies"--they want a strong marriage and a husband too. They're happiest when they're loved and respected in a monogamous relationship, which includes a healthy sex life. A good relationship with your partner is the foundation of a loving marriage, and then family planning actually follows that security. Not the other way around. There was none of that chemistry with Greg and June.
I think every woman should try to be in a loving and monogamous relationship. The autism in this thread is telling, of course. The thing is, being referred to as a "baby machine" is definitely not what a woman who is loved and respected in a healthy monogamous relationship is going to get either. It just reeks of "My wife had 3 babies but she has never orgasmed before." I think this is where some of us differ on "but look how shoe0nhead ruined her laifu, she's not even a waifu!"
Greg didn't respect June when he referred to her as a footstool "ironically." She joked about being a sandwich maker or a dishwasher or a sex loli or whatever and it was always, always cringey. I have the same reaction of disgust to the lack of actual love and respect. If I knew someone in real life who thought being a doormat was funny, I would think they were super unhinged. Not to mention June's endless need to play the "fuck the feeeeeeminists" card because she's not like the other girls and she needs tradsimpbux. But also has to prove to daddy greg that she was a good doormat. (Greg and June fell apart over some fucking memes on twitter in the end, anyway, real manly shit on Greg's part when he dumped her on her birthday.)
My opinion has never changed, I don't have any respect for guys who look down on women. I definitely don't respect shoe because she thinks validating fuckboys makes her cool. She had no problem tossing herself after Vaush or the catfisher.
tl;dr There's a huge difference between being a proper wife in a loving relationship, vs. whatever the fuck a baby machine is because that sounds like some gay shit Greg would have called June.