❄️ Snowflake shoe0nhead / June Lapine / June La Porta & Armoured Skeptic / Gregory "Greg" Fluhrer - A poor man's Boxxy: rejected by Vaush, disowned by /pol/ for burning coal, sleeps in a dog's bed surrounded by trash, and her ex-boyfriend.

[Don't Tread on Me]

June's latest stream has some galaxy brain takes. Someone else can retrieve it, I'm dying of Corona.

She talks about the "science" of troons competing against women in sports, and says "well the science that I've seen says it's not such a big deal".

You would think a woman who branded herself on her size for so long would be acutely aware of the physical differences between men and women.

Just height. Height alone is pretty much universally men over women, and height gives an advantage to pretty much every sport except jockeying.

 

[AvocadoToast]

I was wondering how shoe was coping with her idol Tulsi coming out as a terf.

 

[Chilson]

June's latest stream has some galaxy brain takes. Someone else can retrieve it, I'm dying of Corona.

She talks about the "science" of troons competing against women in sports, and says "well the science that I've seen says it's not such a big deal".

You would think a woman who branded herself on her size for so long would be acutely aware of the physical differences between men and women.

Just height. Height alone is pretty much universally men over women, and height gives an advantage to pretty much every sport except jockeying.

Ah yes the mystical "science" that morons like show love to worship.

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Ah yes the mystical "science" that morons like show love to worship.

Even the height of reddit faces of atheism sperging, which literally appropriated cultural figures into a new set of Gospel evangelists, was more worthy of respect than shoe's appeal to "science"—as if that means anything whatsoever. Hell, Nietzsche literally addressed the adoption of "science" as a modern religion as actually worse than traditional Christianity since "science" doesn't actually provide any truly 100% concrete facts by which to orient your life. Shoe does nothing with her life on a daily basis, so maybe she ought to try reading some philosophy from the past century or so that has entirely wrecked her Enlightenment-era framework's false claims that science can lead to productive truths for orienting culture and government.

That would require some desire for self-improvement, though, and we all know that's antithetical to shoe's idiocy.

 

[LurkTrawl]

The people complaining about shoe starting a red-brown alliance are mad retarded tho. A red-brown alliance would be the ideal realpolitik play to combat neoliberalism right now. The only reason it can't happen is because of the insane purity spiraling leftists. I don't think shoe is aware exactly how spot on she is when she says "these people only see politics as a social club".

Well, the other reason is that there's no "alliance" in history where one side completely capitulates to the demands of the other, which is what they'd ask of any prospective right-wingers. Basically, it'd be closer to a mass conversion or the political version of conquest, not anything resembling an actual alliance. As an example:

L: "Hey we agree on some things, why don't we work together and vote out the establishment politicians?"
R: "Sure, I might be able to get on board with that. We just need to find a suitable candidate."
L: "Oh good! There's this great guy who's for universal healthcare, and racial equality initia-"
R: "What? I was thinking something more centrist."
L: "That is centrist!"

that's about how such an attempt at an alliance would go.

 

[Ita Mori]

I was wondering how shoe was coping with her idol Tulsi coming out as a terf.

I don't think she really cares. Anything that can be used for clout that doesn't inconvenience her is a-ok.
June's real sentiments politically have always been akin to JK Rowling's; basic bitch liberalism.
The socialism mask is made from the same grift material as her tradwife-smol bean mask.
Guarantee you that when pinko goes the way of emo, June will pretend to having been a lolbertarian all along.
Can't be accused of wrongthink if you don't stand for anything.

A Red/Brown alliance is stupid. There's a reason realists don't negotiate with idealists. You will never satisfy the idealist nor will they yield to any compromise.
Just look at how twitter-leftists react to Tulsi who by most reasonable accounts is as centrist as you can get today from a politician. She's definitely to the left of Biden yet because she believes in free speech and has dared to agree with the Orange man on occasion she's practically a neo-nazi Thatcher.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

June's latest stream has some galaxy brain takes. Someone else can retrieve it, I'm dying of Corona.

She talks about the "science" of troons competing against women in sports, and says "well the science that I've seen says it's not such a big deal".

You would think a woman who branded herself on her size for so long would be acutely aware of the physical differences between men and women.

Just height. Height alone is pretty much universally men over women, and height gives an advantage to pretty much every sport except jockeying.

People like Shoe can absolutely fuck off when it comes to the topic of biological men entering women's sports all because they currently identify as a woman.

She's not an athlete. Hell, she's not even a person who has worked hard to accomplish anything, let alone an athlete. These female athletes work their asses off to get to where they are ... And now they work their asses off only to come in second place to a biological man-- all in the name of "love and acceptance." And if any of these women get out of line by daring to call a spade what it is, then they are publicly shamed out of their profession.

Shoe has no problem with trans-women/biological men in women's sports simply because she has nothing to lose from it. Nothing's being taken away from her, so of course she holds the shitty opinion that she does.

 

[Kheapathic]

Even the height of reddit faces of atheism sperging, which literally appropriated cultural figures into a new set of Gospel evangelists, was more worthy of respect than shoe's appeal to "science"—as if that means anything whatsoever. Hell, Nietzsche literally addressed the adoption of "science" as a modern religion as actually worse than traditional Christianity since "science" doesn't actually provide any truly 100% concrete facts by which to orient your life. Shoe does nothing with her life on a daily basis, so maybe she ought to try reading some philosophy from the past century or so that has entirely wrecked her Enlightenment-era framework's false claims that science can lead to productive truths for orienting culture and government.

That would require some desire for self-improvement, though, and we all know that's antithetical to shoe's idiocy.

The problem with replacing religion with science is even with provable facts that don't have to be taken on articles of faith; they still ignore it because it doesn't go along with their idea of how society/culture/government should be. You can look at the differences between men and women and notice physical differences without even using metrics to gauge how much potential each one has; then when you apply science you get actual values to see how much more the average male can out-perform the average female. With that we should be able to easily understand that at the top level of whatever physical competition, you don't want the women competing with the men, because they'll be easily trampled; we can even look at how men (who identify as women) have destroyed female athletic records with ease. But in their brave new world (which is totally led by science and our human brains of logic and understanding); there is no real difference between men and women.

To me that's the real crime with the replacement of religion by science. You can't see God, miracles, or feel faith, that's fine, feel free to disregard. But when you have available numbers, provided by hard actual science (which they claim to revere), they ignore it anyway. They don't believe anything, they're just children throwing tantrums and (unfortunately) being taken seriously.

 

[Jack Awful]

The problem with replacing religion with science is even with provable facts that don't have to be taken on articles of faith; they still ignore it because it doesn't go along with their idea of how society/culture/government should be. You can look at the differences between men and women and notice physical differences without even using metrics to gauge how much potential each one has; then when you apply science you get actual values to see how much more the average male can out-perform the average female. With that we should be able to easily understand that at the top level of whatever physical competition, you don't want the women competing with the men, because they'll be easily trampled; we can even look at how men (who identify as women) have destroyed female athletic records with ease. But in their brave new world (which is totally led by science and our human brains of logic and understanding); there is no real difference between men and women.

To me that's the real crime with the replacement of religion by science. You can't see God, miracles, or feel faith, that's fine, feel free to disregard. But when you have available numbers, provided by hard actual science (which they claim to revere), they ignore it anyway. They don't believe anything, they're just children throwing tantrums and (unfortunately) being taken seriously.

Much like religion, ideologues infiltrate and subvert science to align with their worldview.

That's how you get "men and women are literally identical and interchangeable", when that's obviously false. Then the ideologues can claim you're anti science for disagreeing.

Plus, believing in science as a vague concept without critically thinking about it is just as bad as blindly following religion.

 

[Jones McCann]

But in their brave new world (which is totally led by science and our human brains of logic and understanding); there is no real difference between men and women.

To me that's the real crime with the replacement of religion by science. You can't see God, miracles, or feel faith, that's fine, feel free to disregard. But when you have available numbers, provided by hard actual science (which they claim to revere), they ignore it anyway. They don't believe anything, they're just children throwing tantrums and (unfortunately) being taken seriously.

Every change is a menace to stability. That’s another reason why we’re so chary of applying new inventions. Every discovery in pure science is potentially subversive; even science must sometimes be treated as a possible enemy. Yes, even science.” “Yes,” Mustapha Mond was saying, “that’s another item in the cost of stability. It isn’t only art that’s incompatible with happiness; it’s also science. Science is dangerous; we have to keep it most carefully chained and muzzled.”

 

[Burd Turglar]

Much like religion, ideologues infiltrate and subvert science to align with their worldview.

That's how you get "men and women are literally identical and interchangeable", when that's obviously false. Then the ideologues can claim you're anti science for disagreeing.

Plus, believing in science as a vague concept without critically thinking about it is just as bad as blindly following religion.

I seriously love when kids that we're failing science classes that we were in together constantly talk about 'blah blah blah, do you even science?' or any similar shit. These are the same mother fuckers that couldn't figure out a punnett square then and wouldn't even remember what one is now.

Edit: quick clarification, I mean they were kids then but we're all well into adulthood now. I'm sure Becky the real estate agent is reading the latest scientific journals.

 

[Ged!]

These people who say "believe the science" never actually believed in the science. They just believed "the science" correlated with their ideology. This is in part due to the association between right-wingers and puritanical science-denying that a lot of these left-wingers still hold. When something like biological sex comes up they'll either ignore it it, or take some fringe exception to the rule to "debunk" it, because the ideology comes first. It's very lysenkoist in that sense, and lysenkoism was viewed as being a science.

June's denial of biological sex differences is indicative of this. The fact that women's sports leagues ban men outright, while men's sports leagues tend to not outright ban women, should be all the evidence you need of these differences. Nevermind the volumes of literature that clearly compare and contrast the human male from the human female, none of which is hard to find in the internet age. Instead June has fallen into the progressive position of thinking men and women are the same, not because "the science" proves this, but because the ideology demands it.

It's funny that June of all people would begin to hold this position. She built her career on debunking basic BuzzFeed-tier takes that fell along the same lines. I don't like to psychoanalyze people, but I think June holds a certain "soft spot", if we will, for transsexuals that she doesn't hold for women. Those BuzzFeed feminist videos were absurd, and the wage gap is a myth, so of course women don't need protecting, but June views transsexuals as not having equal rights yet, so in comes the cognitive dissonance.

June is just the modern version of a fag-hag. A tran-hag, we could say.

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

Hey. So one of the thread tags is "nudes".

... where they at?

 

[CEO of Pickles]

Hey. So one of the thread tags is "nudes".

... where they at?

Did you come straight to the last page or did you start at the first page?

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

Did you come straight to the last page or did you start at the first page?

I already have those I was hoping for more.

 

[hundredpercent]

Shoe has no problem with trans-women/biological men in women's sports simply because she has nothing to lose from it. Nothing's being taken away from her, so of course she holds the shitty opinion that she does.

You would think a woman who branded herself on her size for so long would be acutely aware of the physical differences between men and women.

No, I think this is excessive. She hasn't seen any information from the people whose opinions she cares about that contradicts her opinion, so she keeps it. She would not go out of her way to seek out new information, because why would she?

 

[babadook]

All those words to say that she's a dumb bitch

 

[StarkRavingMad]

No, I think this is excessive. She hasn't seen any information from the people whose opinions she cares about that contradicts her opinion, so she keeps it. She would not go out of her way to seek out new information, because why would she?

Why can't it be a mix of all these reasons? Haha.

I don't think that Shoe's echochamber would fully convince her that it was a-okay that trans athletes infiltrated women's sports if she herself was in women's sports. She is entirely so self-centered that she is oblivious to anyone else's problems. It's easy for her to have the opinions she has because athletics aren't a topic of value or interest to her, so fuck the people who do care, amirite?

Plus, she's such a catty bitch against other women that it wouldn't shock me if she got some sick joy from watching these trans athletes ruin women's sports. The only thing that makes Shoe genuinely happy is when she sees someone else suffer.

 

[Illiterate Wanderer]

You can't see God, miracles, or feel faith, that's fine, feel free to disregard.

Have you heard of Alvin Plantinga's reformed epistemology?

 

[birdman]

I think a lot of people here are under illusion that she actually believes whatever she spouts, but that's not the case at all. All that politisperging is only for attention. If she was truly into "communism" and "socialism" she would actually you know, study it. Discuss how it could be implemented in American society in a way that makes it better than the previous system. Bigger government control? Okay but how do you make gov not prone to corruption? Less military spending? Sure but you need think about USA's geopolitical standing in the world too.
If she was serious about any of those issues she wouldn't just tweet like a spastic teenager. It's all just circus to her, a circus where she can be the star that makes fun of the "losers".

"Haha look what these Trump supporters tweeted! Oh my god, those Biden fans are so cringe! This random person on twitter made an attack helicopter joke, how lame just kill me lmao!" Fuck the police!!"

She's still mentally in high school.

That's why she changes her political opinions like socks. She didn't get "lured over to the other side", she just rebranded to whatever is popular with teenagers.
That's what she is, a twitter entertainer for kids and that's how she earns her living.

One amusing thought: if whatever she's is preaching currently somehow magically became a reality, what would she do?
Bernie wins, colleges are free, government is filled with altruists who try their best to make it great for everyone, workers have good pay, great rights and everyone is equal. No more wars because there is no more military, and no more crimes because no more police, a dawn of new utopia.

Well not for June, she wouldn't go back to education and she hates working. Since everyone is happy now there is no side to pick, no one to shit on so no more high school and no more attention too. What a nightmare, June.