2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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So forgive me, want to make sure I understand.

The state legislature in the affected states are sending two sets of electors? Ones based on the election, and ones they chose? And they're going to hope the Senate picks theirs instead of the elected ones?

Well, this is looking like Trump’s actual strategy now. This is gonna make the Senate kingmaker from now on. Not just in 2020 with Trump, but in every election to come.

So the plan is to send a second set of electors and just hope the Senate doesn't cuck out? What happens if the GA runoffs flip the senate blue?

Well, shit, can't blame Trump for that. They forced his hand.

Correct. This isn't even his last die he can cast.
 
We’re a federation but the president represents the people as a whole.
He also represents said 50 countries and their various cultures and needs. In a popular vote, you take a nonexistent cultural/economic homogeneity for granted.

The popular vote is as good a way to select the president in the modern era as any.
No, the hell it isn't. It's only good enough in a local community, and even then its value breaks down as soon as you have more than two competitors and nobody gets more than 50% of the vote. There's no perfect voting system, but popular vote is at the bottom precisely because of that.
 
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So forgive me, want to make sure I understand.

The state legislature in the affected states are sending two sets of electors? Ones based on the election, and ones they chose? And they're going to hope the Senate picks theirs instead of the elected ones?



So the plan is to send a second set of electors and just hope the Senate doesn't cuck out? What happens if the GA runoffs flip the senate blue?



Correct. This isn't even his last die he can cast.
No. Each state has designated electors. These are the ones who have to report to do the vote.

The GOP in some of the states held their own "electoral vote". These obviously went to Trump. However, these are not the official electors, so their electoral vote holds as much vote as yours or mine would. It's purely symbolic.
 
He also represents said 50 countries and their various cultures and needs. In a popular vote, you take a nonexistent cultural/economic homogeneity for granted.


No, the hell it isn't. It's only good enough in a local community, and even then its value breaks down as soon as you have more than two competitors and nobody gets more than 50% of the vote. There's no perfect voting system, but popular vote is at the bottom precisely because of that.
Always good to know that "popular vote should win" will always go right in the trash where it belongs.
 
There’s faithless electors and being so mad/deluded that you send a completely different set of electors, which haven’t been certified and won’t be accepted.
Are you trying to say that the same people who said the SC was going to overturn the election and throw Biden and Harris in jail are not grounded in facts and reality? Well, I'll be...
 
RCV already exists in certain states which have their electors better represent the overall vote and not the first-past-the-post issue. That's realistically been the primary problem of the EC - fptp.

If you say the clerks violated the law, what relief are you seeking? Oh, throwing out close to 200k votes by that suit. That is a relief that you have just been denied.

Clerks followed the guidelines. One specific reading of the legislation argues that these guidelines contravene the legislation. If your relief was for future elections to not have this discrepancy, of even just for the approval to seek a comprehensive audit of ballots that were specifically violated in this manner in order to identify and potentially disqualify those specific votes, it is possible that you could see that happen. Similarly, you could try to make this exact same argument again - except that you want the WEC guidelines to better reflect the legislation, as its own item after the election to prevent such a thing from happening again.

But the instant it isn't getting glorious god-emperor in charge, it's going to be discarded and forgotten about, as free to occur in elections to come as it has in elections gone by, because it isn't following that exact reading of the law that you care about. As you're specifically arguing that people who voted in full compliance with the law should have their vote discarded if a clerk added two letters to it, yeah, you're searching for straws. All the suit alleged was functionally that state and zips (implicit information) was added, not that someone filled in a street address wholesale.

If "observers were allowed to observe," you would have relied on them to take issue with a clerk adding in two letters or a zip code for those ballots to have been mailed back for curing. You aren't even alleging that these are fraudulent ballots - but rather that a specific reading of a law was not undertaken by some clerks which rendered them moot. Unfortunately, you're not seated on the proper court to have thrown your reading in the mix, so now you're pouting.


Both of them alleged damages through which they argued their case, not on-face that the precedent itself was unconstitutional. They susbtantiated those claims of damages, too, even.
by all means offer an alternative remedy to the issue. had there been a record of affected ballots the remedy would be to throw those ballots out, as the majority agrees.

but there is no record, no logs.

so all the ballots are in question. so all must be tossed.

thats on wec and no one else.

by not following the law they are improper and fraudulent ballots.
as the court says absentee is a privilege and not a right.
 
We’re a federation but the president represents the people as a whole. The popular vote is as good a way to select the president in the modern era as any. The current system is absolutely busted when you can win the presidency with only 20% of the vote.
We could just balkanize. That would remove the need for the electoral college.
 
I leave for one weekend and this happens.
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Is Nevada sending their votes for Trump a good thing? I thought dems owned Nevada.
I cannot fucking state how fucking gay this is. You are all being misled in one of the grossest ways I've seen in a long time.
 
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