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Literal gibberish, starting to think the way leftists,progressevis, sjws whatever you want to call them, make up terminology by the minute is just a psy op by the cia to demoralize and distort Gen z's perception of reality. If you want to suck a dick suck one no one cares, just don't go shouting out in public about it. Starting to really miss the old phrase "what two adults do behind closed doors is their business" because it implies that it stays their business and no one else's. You can have all the weird sexual preferences you want, and your own made up explanations about them just stfu about it in public.
When I was in highschool my girlfriends and I were of the distinct belief that menfolk always bragged and exaggerated their sexual encounters to each other.

I have no idea if this is true or not, having never infiltrated a male locker room.

I think of that when I see people of any sort speaking about their bedroom activities so freely.
 
Gen Z don't understand reality. they think the internet (twitter) and American politics (never their own country) is just life. And they all struggle with mental health issues as they have identity issues that stem from the constant fakery of trying to be "good people" (liberal and perfect) so they don't get socially outcast and it wrangles with their mind causing all kinds of shit, the young girls don't wanna be girls because they assume they will be objectified and raped and the young boys don't wanna be boys because they are told that being a man is evil, they have privilege and are the perps of all badness in the world... and if you are white, ho ho ho BE GUILTY!

Why do ya think they mostly are hypocrites? They are literally superficial and fake. It's a form of torture that they inflict upon themselves.
 
Except we know from the many, many examples in this thread that male trannies are otherwise the most stereotypical men ever. They aren't just overrepresented in "women's" cohorts in "male" hobbies -- thus proving they don't have "female brains" [their terms] / female socialization [terven terms] -- they're overrepresented among the men, too (in those hobbies which aren't particularly conducive to mental health). Even our shrinking violet Sharkboy (a homosexual and a likely HSTS) is a gun nut.

If the feminine pursuit to troondom pathway theory held true, we'd see an explosion of troon celebrity chefs, troon fashion designers, etc - all "feminine" occupations (where men have nevertheless found disproportionate success). Instead, we see troons are nerds or jocks. The only "drama club"/ "mommy's boy" troons are child victims like Jazz and that landwhale makeup youtuber.
I’m in a lot of very female interest groups on Facebook (baby names, wedding dresses, craft stuff that men are never into) and 95% of the time when I see someone with a male name posting they’re an FTM. Also, they always try to defend their shit names in name groups.

My theory is that MTFs aren’t feminine but they aren’t masculine either. They’re failed heterosexual men. Sure, they like speed running, which is very male dominated, but that’s not a cool thing to be into. The occasional jocks we see on here are the true AGPs, but the rest are AGP + autism. They aren’t good at sports and they can’t get girls, and they don’t understand why, so they interpret it as being trans.

Someone on here said a while ago that third genders were only for males and females have never been able to get out of being a wife and mother, but in the west that isn’t true. Being a nun has its own problems, sure, but it’s also always been a refuge for dorky, awkward, and weird women. Same with being a monk. If there’s any positive to tradcathery it’s that awkward young men can go find something to do with their life that isn’t playing vidya all day.
I think that the AGP/HSTS dichotomy doesn't really work, at least not anymore. Not to say that there aren't AGPs and HSTSs, but I don't think that it's the dominant division anymore.
Mostly, I think that the people we've traditionally classified as AGPs should be split. Some of them just redirect their attraction to women onto themselves (traditional AGP), but some of them are sissification fetishists and some are attracted to feminine social interaction. Then there are the ones who just like the breaking of taboos.
But while the AGP label is the main label that needs to be revisited, I think that the HSTS label is also flawed (in ways that were probably not a big factor when Dr Blanchard was first laying out his typology). Being gay just isn't really a good determinant of whether a tranny is HSTS or AGP anymore; I feel like just as many gay troons are AGP as HSTS and we have a new class of troons who transition because it's what their friends are doing and they have more in common with the traditional HSTS class than AGPs.
And finally we have the new kingdom of Incels who we've traditionally just called fake trans. They're generally pretty misogynistic.
And then we have the

I haven't done any rigorous analysis of this, obviously, but if you were to demand I provide my suggested typology I'd probably go with
  • AGPs
    • Displaced Attraction: attracted to women, but displace that attraction onto themselves
    • Sissies: like the humiliation of being treated like the clearly inferior gender
    • Transformation Fetishists: they aren't as sexually attracted to the idea of themselves as women as the idea of transforming themselves into women
  • HSTSs
    • Super Gays: naturally feminine men who are traumatized by homophobic abuse and begin to identify as women to avoid it
    • Straight Chasers: gay men who just want to increase their dating pool by going after straight men instead of gay men (these men can also be Super Gays who are too feminine to attract gay men)
    • Flagellants: straight men (probably white) who feel guilty for all their straight, male, cis privilege and hang out in SJ circles that aren't good for their mental health. By being trans they absolve themselves of their sin
  • Incels
    • Transmaxxers: they think that women have it easier, frequently autistic
    • Sociopaths: basically flagellants who are self-aware and are just doing for clout, frequently have unsavory histories
    • Reinventors: they need to reinvent themselves, and trooning out is the particular route they chose
 
I think that the AGP/HSTS dichotomy doesn't really work, at least not anymore. Not to say that there aren't AGPs and HSTSs, but I don't think that it's the dominant division anymore.
Mostly, I think that the people we've traditionally classified as AGPs should be split. Some of them just redirect their attraction to women onto themselves (traditional AGP), but some of them are sissification fetishists and some are attracted to feminine social interaction. Then there are the ones who just like the breaking of taboos.
But while the AGP label is the main label that needs to be revisited, I think that the HSTS label is also flawed (in ways that were probably not a big factor when Dr Blanchard was first laying out his typology). Being gay just isn't really a good determinant of whether a tranny is HSTS or AGP anymore; I feel like just as many gay troons are AGP as HSTS and we have a new class of troons who transition because it's what their friends are doing and they have more in common with the traditional HSTS class than AGPs.
And finally we have the new kingdom of Incels who we've traditionally just called fake trans. They're generally pretty misogynistic.
And then we have the

I haven't done any rigorous analysis of this, obviously, but if you were to demand I provide my suggested typology I'd probably go with
  • AGPs
    • Displaced Attraction: attracted to women, but displace that attraction onto themselves
    • Sissies: like the humiliation of being treated like the clearly inferior gender
    • Transformation Fetishists: they aren't as sexually attracted to the idea of themselves as women as the idea of transforming themselves into women
  • HSTSs
    • Super Gays: naturally feminine men who are traumatized by homophobic abuse and begin to identify as women to avoid it
    • Straight Chasers: gay men who just want to increase their dating pool by going after straight men instead of gay men (these men can also be Super Gays who are too feminine to attract gay men)
    • Flagellants: straight men (probably white) who feel guilty for all their straight, male, cis privilege and hang out in SJ circles that aren't good for their mental health. By being trans they absolve themselves of their sin
  • Incels
    • Transmaxxers: they think that women have it easier, frequently autistic
    • Sociopaths: basically flagellants who are self-aware and are just doing for clout, frequently have unsavory histories
    • Reinventors: they need to reinvent themselves, and trooning out is the particular route they chose
Worded in that manner it basically boils down to escapism on every point. Sort of quite scary we live in a time when 'weaker' people will find a tiny bit of power by literally pretending to be something else.

What happened to those weird simple people that just had their simple life with a deadend job, no friends and a weird simple wife? Now they probably transition to somehow get a foothold a little higher...
 
Gen Z don't understand reality. they think the internet (twitter) and American politics (never their own country) is just life. And they all struggle with mental health issues as they have identity issues that stem from the constant fakery of trying to be "good people" (liberal and perfect) so they don't get socially outcast and it wrangles with their mind causing all kinds of shit, the young girls don't wanna be girls because they assume they will be objectified and raped and the young boys don't wanna be boys because they are told that being a man is evil, they have privilege and are the perps of all badness in the world... and if you are white, ho ho ho BE GUILTY!

Why do ya think they mostly are hypocrites? They are literally superficial and fake. It's a form of torture that they inflict upon themselves.
I decided about a year and a half ago I wasn't going to use my phone at work at all, and it has made paid tremendous dividends for my mental health. There's no way being way too online doesn't play a role in trans kids and people who are vulnerable falling susceptible to this horseshit.
 
This youtuber is a self proclaimed "law student".
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I think the fact that the woke go for the throat when a woman questions trans extremism, but they will just sputter and stammer if a man questions them, is telling. There is an underlying misogynistic vibe about the whole movement.
Another indication is how only women's health groups have been infiltrated and re-created to use neutral gender language, whereas men's health groups have remained intact. It's all about erasing the female presence/voice/opinions/identity to please the troons.
This is only true if the majority of the group is wokies. Unfortunately the moment one joins your group more will try to.

In my opinion, if you run a women’s group online, the second anyone comes out as ‘non binary’ she should be immediately removed.
 
Tradfeminist concepts like "there are no inherent mental differences between men and women" and "gender is a construct" are actually completely opposed to transgenderism. Because if there's no innate brain difference, you can't have a sparkly pink girl-brain trapped in a man's body. And if gender is a construct, then there's no soul-like "gender identity" imbued in all of us at birth. That's why they need to supplant feminism with transgenderism. It's also why they supplanted the gay pride movement and tacked the T on, because if gender is on a spectrum and sex is mutable like trans activists insist, then homosexuality doesn't exist. Transgenderism is completely inconsistent with gay pride and feminism, so they had to undermine both.
I don't really think this is really correct but it's also not wholly wrong.

There are sort of two different perspectives that are used to buttress troonism. On one hand there is the social constructionist view of gender and an associated scepticism of biological causes for differences in human behavior as well as a strong aversion to naturalistic moralizing. This is where notions like gender as performance and as being not inherently coupled to sex originate. To people thinking in this school, the question of whether someone simply is trans or why they wish to assume a given identity or form of gender expression is an irrelevant one; the extant social arrangements and conventions are not taken to be inherently 'superior' or 'natural'. In fact given the supposed 'oppressive' nature of these social arrangements then it is in fact radical - which is to say good - to subvert them and being an un-categorizable freak show is undeniably subversive. This is why you can literally write a book writing about how sissy porn turned you into a troon and be feted for it!*

This sort of thought is dependent on dismissing biology as significant or at least determining/constraining human behavioural possibilities significantly. So, the idea that there is some practical problem with allowing natal men into women's spaces is not really acknowledged and even if it is acknowledged it is likely to be conceptualized as a consequence of the extant power structures (e.g. patriarchy) and not as an unavoidable problem of biological origin. An interesting corollary to this general suspicion of biological forces as constraints is the aversion to the 'born-this-way' narrative of homosexuality. This here is a good example of this:
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(Source: https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/masha-gessen/)

It also captures the problem with this sort of thinking: its limited appeal. It's hard to convince people that heteronormativity is oppressive or that every form of social relationship that constrains behavior is arbitrary and should be deconstructed. Even if the masses could accept this kind of thinking and be willing to adopt a 'live and let live' type approach, it still doesn't help AGP-types since it fails to supply an explanation behind their specific motivations. It may be so that subverting gender norms is good but it doesn't help John (aged 41, married for 12 years, 3 children) explain to his soon-to-be ex-wife why he has suddenly decided to queer their marriage.

This gives rise to the second set of justifications, the familiar 'born-this-way'/'innate gender' narratives. This is what actually gets bandied around most of the time since it relies on widely accepted logic that drove acceptance of homosexuality and can be understood by anyone (GL explaining Judith Butler to 8 year olds), This makes it instrumentally valuable and ultimately what matters the most to troons: can you use it to justify acting out your fantasies without being socially sanctioned? Can you use it to deny explanations for your behavior which you find distressing?

The idea of some inborn brain error therefore became the main narrative device used by troons in the popular media. However, it's wrong to say that this makes troonist thinking contradict feminists like Cordelia Fine who seek to minimize or deny neurological sex differences. In fact, the idea that men and women don't differ psychologically has also obviously helped in suppressing people's doubts about the wisdom of troon ideas like self-ID and quite probably primed people to find the idea that you could in some sense have the 'wrong' brain (small mistakes happen, right?) since sex differences are seen to be less substantive than they actually are. The less significant sex is seen to be then the more relevant nebulous notion of 'gender identity' become.


The first perspective also still crops up, much of the language of troonism is taken from social constructionist accounts of gender and 'radical' ideas are adopted when they are useful. Serano, for example, posits a more or less evidence-free conjectural model for how gender identity (he calls it 'subconscious sex' which is IMO a better term), sexual orientation and gender expression are instantiated in each individual and exhibit natural variation. This is pretty much a 'wrong' brain/body model but he fills is books with gibberish that is obviously heavily influenced by social constructionist type thinking. I tend to think that this stuff gets thrown in when advocates are pressed because it helps bulk up an otherwise totally unjustifiable thesis because while the politics/culture that is associated with it is often very batty, the underlying scholarship can be quite solid. This makes it a nice accompaniment to under-evidenced scientific thought bubbles. In some cases it can even serve as the main argument and the terrible brain scan studies like Zhou et. al. can just be dispensed with altogether, even though when the troon goes to explain themselves personally they still resort to a 'wrong' brain narrative.

Zizek captures something of this strange dynamic:

*Colin 'Katy' Montgomerie, however, believes that Mr. Chu needs to see a therapist and read the science or something which is why I came to the scientific opinion that Colin jack(s/ed) off to sissy porn.
 
"First person who performed a C section where mother and baby survived was a trans man"
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Transing the dead, with a dose of classic FtM misogyny.

Margaret Ann Bulkley/James Barry was a woman who posed as a man all her life and made some pretty nice accomplishments as a medical doctor. Back when the most intellectually challenging job a woman could have was a midwife or a teacher, and most didn't even get the chance to do that because being a baby machne/house servant was more important. I'm not aware of any pre 2010s sources that claim she was a trans man, only some claims about being intersex. Troons make it look like she was a strong Aiden icon, not that people thought women were too retarded or dainty to ever even dare to try study medicine. Shit 100 years ago or so when the med school in my hometown was build people thought that women would all pass out when seeing a cadaver in the anatomy class. It's not like she could 'come out' after becoming accomplished either, because that would be a social suicide, immediate career death and possibly carry legal consequences. Her biography is pretty interesting. I'm not surprised they converted her to a tranny post mortem, since they've done it even with Marsha P. Johnson, who died in fucking 1992 and we have video/audio evidence of it being false.
I genuinely wonder what modern troons will be seen when the whole fad died out, or somehow we finally move beyond gender, or that somehow future technology in bodily transformation became so advanced that our current transition procedures will look like medieval bloodletting. And that the concept of being trans and addressing them in a certain way become laughable in the future and we ended up "misgendering" them like how TRA are transing the dead. Because surely the past is another country

Imo, Barbara/Ben Barres was modern troon equivalent of Margaret Ann Bulkley/James Barry. Died of pancreatic cancer a few years back, and it was a result of troon steroid abuse. While she made a lot of discovery in neuroscience. She suffered a lot of discrimination and academic roadblocks of being a woman. Her researches was belittled and may have been abused by her boyfriend. Eventually deluded herself into thinking that she was an "asexual man" in her 40s, after getting tits cut off from cancer (Rigid thinking of not having tits = not women?) Her interviews just seem sad, it's like she got halfway in understanding her issues then backed off and Nah, I was totally a man, I played with trucks as a kid.


And funnily how Margaret Ann Bulkley/James Barry was noticed of having high voice, people jumped into the conclusion that she must be intersex because in Victorian era, women wearing trousers and being a doctor was inconceivable. What we can use to clock troons is very culturally dependent and people can be quite stupid regarding it at times. And I feel like in a few years time, FtMs are going to have a harder time passing because people learned to clock them, and that having beards or being bald may be very possible being female (due to troonsplosion and subsequent detransitioners) and they'll start looking for facial features or hand size or body ratio instead.
 
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I hate to be “that feminist” but it is linked to misogyny. A girl wants to dress/act mannish, well that’s just fine. A boy wants to dress/act feminine and suddenly we’re going to psychiatrists . Traditionally masculine endeavors are seen as strong and important while traditionally feminine ones are seen as weak and frivolous. Even things like sports, which tend to be viewed as masculine are based heavily in strength and competition to give them an air of importance where one isn’t really earned.
I often wonder if some men go trans, not because they know they are women inside, but because they are too ashamed to be men with feminine pursuits. Just like women breaking into spaces formerly for men, it’s probably really hard for guys to break into a feminine space as a guy. (I’m talking knitting circles here, not bathrooms) I’ve engaged in many feminine pursuits and I’ve never once seen ladies turn an honest guy away. Hell if anything he maybe gets a 10minute warning before being subjected to cramp talk and aunties trying to marry him off.
This is the reason I've always found feminism laughable and intellectually lazy, you couch your entire world view in the lens of misogyny, and use it to explain every aspect of our society. Sports always have and always will be a male centered interest, because they channel the masculine drive for excellence, and inspire men in all aspects of their life. Sports are an artistic(yes artistic) expression of male virtues, and mans want for recognition among his peers. Strength, agility, and overall physical prowess have been masculine virtues since the beginning of our species and, and are an intrinsic aspect of the male archetype, typically manifesting in competition.

Sports are a showcase of the most base masculine virtues while also incorporating those that we picked up as human civilization progressed such as ambition, bravery, determination, discipline, etc.... You have to have determination, discipline, and ambition to be a Michael Jordan, in fact you almost have to have these oozing out of your pores to achieve at the highest level of sports. If you even want to be a running back on your high school football team you need a level of bravery that is admirable.

It's through the viewing of these artistic expressions of masculine virtue we call sports that many men derive the inspiration to achieve in their own pursuits of interest. Sports are art in motion, go watch Michael Jordan highlights and tell me this man isn't practicing an art form at the highest level. Its through the viewing of these artists practicing their artform at the highest level that many men derive inspiration to achieve in their own lives, which is why sports stars are often their childhood heros.

Would most sports fans be able to articulate this point to you (as I probably sloppily have), or even recognize it themselves on a conscious level? No probably not, because they don't need to they understand what is occurring on a subconscious level. Nor is this the sole reason that people watch sports I might add, Nor do all men derive inspiration from them obviously. Sports are not given undo importance, they're given the importance that individuals in our society deem them to have, whether you understand why men deem them important or not is another point.

As many women in this thread have pointed out women are physically weak in comparison to men, this is obvious to anyone with a pair of eyeballs. Yet feminists fail to make the logical connections as to why masculine virtues and the masculine archetype are rightly seen as stronger and take the label weak as purely an insult. They are threatened by the male virtues because they see themselves as competing with men now instead of simply competing with other women like in the past. They fail to see the value in traditionally feminine virtues, and so seek to demonize masculine virtues in turn. Obviously not all men possess every masculine virtue and not all women possess every feminine virtue, and there are those that may pick up a virtue or two from the other half. This however is not the norm and such is the reason these virtues have been divided up between the sexes to create archetypal pictures of both.

There's no place in traditional society for feminine men, other men will not respect them or accept them because they lack any respectable qualities a man should possess while adopting feminine one's instead. Women will not respect them or find them a suitable partner as they're attracted to masculine virtues. The reason this isn't the case the other way around is because outside of butch lesbians hardly any women try to shed feminine virtues in an attempt to emulate masculine ones, they'll instead adopt one, two or however many while retaining most of the feminine virtues they already were going to have. Some men are threatened by ambitious women, but thats why these women usually end up marrying more ambitious or successful men then themselves or their equals if they are near the top of their field.

sufficive to say this is why when a man sees his son in a dress he's quick to shut it down, he makes all the logical connections in his head of the implications it might have on his sons future subconsciously, and deems it inappropriate. It's not from a place of malice for women or feminine virtues that he tells his son he's being a faggot, but rather a concern for his sons ability to succeed in life that he tells him to stop acting like a sissy.
 
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Can't believe this bigot fucked up not once but twice. Not only did they erroneously conflate vulva-possessing units with women but they also engaged in an act of unbelievable cultural erasure genociding the traditions of thousands of indigenous nations who have been trading their portable vulva-possessing units for commodities or other units with similar mileage for over 50,000 years!

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"anyone [have] tips for how to not look like a 12 y/o" :story:
She didn't get really any tips.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TransyTalk/comments/k2und5/fashion_tips_for_short_trans_guys/ (x)
 
Yet another annoying ftm in terrible makeup talks about xenogenders:
This is far from the worst content I've seen, and she comes across as fairly intelligent. But her whole argument boils down to "Accept people's identities without question or you're a transphobic dick." While she herself doesn't have a xenogender, she has a rather pretentious way of describing her own relation to gender. Anyway, from what I've been observing, the lines between "true transsexuals" and "trenders" are blurring. How many people these days are both transitioning physically AND adopting weird microlabels?

(The comments and the like-to-dislike ratio are also rather disheartening and make me worry for this already fucked up generation.)
 
For America and for the rest of the West, we have not just the death of various nationalistic aspirations (the American Dream, Rule Britannia, et al.), but also the lose of visible external enemies. There's no Evil Empire anymore; and before anyone says the migrants or Islam, blind rabid anti-racist rhetoric has made it thought-crime to identify those. With loss of external threats (that we can name and rally around) we fall to internal infighting.

I'm not saying that we need to drum up an external enemy for jingoistic purposes, but that I think healthy competition on an international forum is necessary for cohesive national identity.
Sure we can. A good chunk of the modern social justice movement is making up imaginary monsters so people can feel good about themselves by winning imaginary battles against said imaginary monsters.
 
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