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Okay since you wander into a 1700 page thread yet can't be arsed to read or pick a single line out of a three page letter.....

I forgot to add this page, which includes the co signatories to that letter. They include, apart from TENI, Amnesty International and the Women's Council of Ireland.

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This refers to a line on biology in the letter:
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Now, I hope yer happy. Check out that letter, dip into it, lots to find, no need to read the whole thing.

Anyway, we got another live prisoner in the Emerald Isle who views it as a means of escape to the wimmins wing.

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Not surprisingly it's another Sex offender, like what are the odds eh?

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I genuinely like I can't even be mad at this at this point I just want to understand what exactly they expect from a Gyno? Like I get these idiots have like zero concept of biology or medicine or science but goddamn, it's like the perfect example of how this is all a show for them. No woman enjoys going, it's not a validating experience but when you go to a Gyno it's for one thing and one thing only, checking out your vagina and related organs. What are they expecting? Especially one whose still got a fuckin' penis. Do you want them to stick a speculum up your ass and pretend it's a vagina? Do you want them to sound the ureter of your penis? The Gyno profession is centered on a vagina. Not female healthcare in general, that's why you have GPs and not even female bodies, like breasts too- but the actual fucking vagina / womb / uterus. That's what they specialize in.

All you're going to do is take up their time during which they will direct you and your penis to a urologist if you have a problem because regardless of your feels it's still a dick and the person trained to deal with vaginas doesn't have the training for it.
A lot of these men, as we've seen, have overlapping paraphilia- particularly humiliation fetishes (both as the humiliated and, I think, as the humiliator). Now call me crazy, but I suspect that the more powerful motivator for taking your limp noodle to the gyno, over even the much coveted validation, is forcing someone (and we all know these freaks are requesting female doctors, because a man would make them feel unsafe of course) to submit against their will and perform for you in a way that goes against their own beliefs and training. They get off on this kind of power play, imho. Come to think of it, "validation" seems to be pretty much code for "flexing social power and forcing others, especially women, to worship you".
 
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A lot of these men, as we've seen, have overlapping paraphilia- particularly humiliation fetishes (both as the humiliated and, I think, as the humiliator). Now call me crazy, but I suspect that the more powerful motivator for taking your limp noodle to the gyno, over even the much coveted validation, is forcing someone (and we all know these freaks are requesting female doctors, because a man would make them feel unsafe of course) to submit against their will and perform for you in a way that goes against their own beliefs and training. They get off on this kind of power play, imho. Come to think of it, "validation" seems to be pretty much code for "flexing social power and forcing others, especially women, to worship you".

I mean sure but it's not like you just waltz into the gyno and get naked the second you're in the door. Heck, a lot of them are by appointment only and those appointments are for actual procedures- you don't usually call up your gyno and go there because you feel like it. Adding in the expense associated with American health care, too. Most doctors have a front desk as well so there's even more distance between a troon and a actually forcing one to do anything, especially so if the front desk immediately clocks them. Even if by some miracle the troon managed to get in and see the doctor there's two options when they drop their pants 1. sorry but you need a urologist because I don't deal with penis, or 2. the gyno making some vague attempt at dealing with a fetid hole before advising them to seek out a surgeon or other better suited doctor.

The troon is a loser in all situations that could possibly arise from this.

Imo. I think 75% of the comments about gyno's are fake. That they're making internet commentary that takes them on a one way trip to boner town thinking of invading that female only doctor vs actually going to appointments. Even with the progressive stack as it is, I don't see too many gynos being at all happy by having appointment time wasted when they could be preforming a life saving test or health improving or fertility improving diagnosis to a real woman. Nor would one of them be at all pleased at a man wanting them to examine their limp dick.
 
I mostly look for the brow ridge, strong jaw, masculine hairline, or Adam's apple. Can you tell me how this one is so obviously male. I can't see it, but I would like to know.
Do you not see the massive jawline and how big his fucking head is? Also the hairline is farther back than a woman's, look at the forehead.

Again, I am an autist about this shit, so don't feel bad if you can't tell.
 
I mostly look for the brow ridge, strong jaw, masculine hairline, or Adam's apple. Can you tell me how this one is so obviously male. I can't see it, but I would like to know.
I don't think he looks so masculine that I would notice that he's a man if I wasn't looking for it, but he does have certain traits that are definitely male. His chin is large, but probably within a couple deviations of a Scandinavian woman. His hairline is high, but again, within in a couple standard deviations of a Scandinavian woman. What really stands out to me is the length of his nose.

Also, from the SRS thread I saw this and I'm kind of amazed it hasn't been posted here. Apparently some plastic surgeon in KY has been intentionally mutilating trannies.
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I'm not prone to sympathizing with trannies (at least not anymore), but that's totally fucked. The fact that she moved from Chicago to Louisville for the surgery makes me think that either she no longer had anything for her in Chicago or that he made completely unrealistic promises about what he could deliver.
 
I mostly look for the brow ridge, strong jaw, masculine hairline, or Adam's apple. Can you tell me how this one is so obviously male. I can't see it, but I would like to know.

Jaw and chin, breadth of cheekbone, size of eyes.
 
I'm not prone to sympathizing with trannies (at least not anymore), but that's totally fucked. The fact that she moved from Chicago to Louisville for the surgery makes me think that either she no longer had anything for her in Chicago or that he made completely unrealistic promises about what he could deliver.
I have absolutely no sympathy for them. You want to mutilate your body and remove healthy organs? Don't be surprised when you run into a literal butcher.
 
Thought he was surprisingly not badly passing and of course, it's always angles, filters, lighting. Good lord...

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That's 100% a man, insane that puberty blockers are advertised as a cure all when this is the end result.
He is going to get more masculine as he ages. Broad shoulders, broad chest, thick neck etc. I made a post about this phenomena in the Jazz Jennings thread with pictures of early transitioners then and now. Every single one of them looks way manlier now.

Just look at Jazz Jennings for example:
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He got puberty blocking drugs at 10 & had dick multilation (also with dr. Ting which was a complete disaster) at 17 and yet he is getting more masculine.


Neither Puberty blockers nor genital multilation can stop masculinization entirely. The reason might be because the adrenal glands continue to produce androgen.
 
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I mean sure but it's not like you just waltz into the gyno and get naked the second you're in the door. Heck, a lot of them are by appointment only and those appointments are for actual procedures- you don't usually call up your gyno and go there because you feel like it. Adding in the expense associated with American health care, too. Most doctors have a front desk as well so there's even more distance between a troon and a actually forcing one to do anything, especially so if the front desk immediately clocks them. Even if by some miracle the troon managed to get in and see the doctor there's two options when they drop their pants 1. sorry but you need a urologist because I don't deal with penis, or 2. the gyno making some vague attempt at dealing with a fetid hole before advising them to seek out a surgeon or other better suited doctor.

The troon is a loser in all situations that could possibly arise from this.

Imo. I think 75% of the comments about gyno's are fake. That they're making internet commentary that takes them on a one way trip to boner town thinking of invading that female only doctor vs actually going to appointments. Even with the progressive stack as it is, I don't see too many gynos being at all happy by having appointment time wasted when they could be preforming a life saving test or health improving or fertility improving diagnosis to a real woman. Nor would one of them be at all pleased at a man wanting them to examine their limp dick.
Something I thought of. I’m assuming aside from a validation fantasy, is wanting to go to a gyno a fetish just as much as everything else? I’m wondering if they assume the gyno will always be female. Plenty of male ones exist. I don’t think a dude would be pleased with that. But hey.

Also I don’t know where to post this, but I used PowerPoint again for the first time in forever. I noticed they have a “rehearse” feature to let you practice a presentation and it gives pointers on your speed and grammar. It pinged my use of “governess” and “boys and girls” as potentially offensive to people. Instead use “child caretaker” or “children”! Excuse me?
 
I’m wondering if they assume the gyno will always be female. Plenty of male ones exist. I don’t think a dude would be pleased with that. But hey.
Oh they definitely do. They don't want to include men in their fetish, only women. Because they get off on a woman having to look at and touch them and be forced to call their dick "feminine".
 
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. . . It pinged my use of “governess” and “boys and girls” as potentially offensive to people. Instead use “child caretaker” or “children”! Excuse me?
That's as horrifying to me as anything I've seen in this thread to date. Absolutely do not take that suggestion, @Coffee Druid , that is some utter bullshit right there.
 
I don't think he looks so masculine that I would notice that he's a man if I wasn't looking for it, but he does have certain traits that are definitely male. His chin is large, but probably within a couple deviations of a Scandinavian woman. His hairline is high, but again, within in a couple standard deviations of a Scandinavian woman. What really stands out to me is the length of his nose.

Also, from the SRS thread I saw this and I'm kind of amazed it hasn't been posted here. Apparently some plastic surgeon in KY has been intentionally mutilating trannies.
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I'm not prone to sympathizing with trannies (at least not anymore), but that's totally fucked. The fact that she moved from Chicago to Louisville for the surgery makes me think that either she no longer had anything for her in Chicago or that he made completely unrealistic promises about what he could deliver.
My question is, if you’re moving states anyway, why go to RED Kentucky? That wouldn’t be my first choice of where I’d expect to find trans allies.
 
I'm not prone to sympathizing with trannies (at least not anymore), but that's totally fucked. The fact that he moved from Chicago to Louisville for the surgery makes me think that either he no longer had anything for him in Chicago or that he made completely unrealistic promises about what he could deliver.
I guess you've never been to Chicongo before.
 
That's as horrifying to me as anything I've seen in this thread to date. Absolutely do not take that suggestion, @Coffee Druid , that is some utter bullshit right there.
Like I ever would. I'm doing a presentation on education in 1700s Europe, it's kind of important to distinguish that sort of thing. Makes me wary of Microsoft Office. At least it's through my university and I didn't actually pay for it (besides miscellaneous school fees I guess).
 
I guess you've never been to Chicongo before.
I haven't, but I'm sure that we can both agree that a tranny is more likely to get support, both socially and medically, in Chicago than Louisville. Even if only by virtue of Chicago's size she would have had a better shot at finding a qualified SRS surgeon. I suspect that Fox promised her that he was either the best SRS surgeon in the region or he told her he'd do it for free.
 

I saw this article from stating that 51 studies have reported that transitioning improves mental well-being of transgender people. I haven't looked into the methodologies of these studies. But it seems to be quite contradictory to my experiences with Western trannies, even the proclaimed "transmed" ones I've met.

Many of them state that, yes, they're happier about gender. So maybe the study is correct. But most of them seem to still have mental issues and lack of self awareness in one way or another - like there's an underlying issues transitioning doesnt fix. Or the older, quieter one, there's a version feeling that they accepted more that transitioning wasn't magic and they simply learned to accept themselves as they are, mutilated or not.

Sometimes they seem to talk about how they're medicated and creating stories about how it was a hard decision to them but eventually they're glad they transitioned. But they just sound like addicts to be honest. - that's something I feel with many who says they have depression and "drugs saved their lives". That they seem to not be able to look deep why they feel the thing they did. Just keep living in some sort of zombified bliss state.

I feel like there's an idea of sunk cost fallacy too. I wonder what do you think about the "reported happiness" Vs actual state of troon derangement?
 
I mostly look for the brow ridge, strong jaw, masculine hairline, or Adam's apple. Can you tell me how this one is so obviously male. I can't see it, but I would like to know.
Others have commented but his face is just...male. He looks like a dude in makeup. From experience it seems women generally are better at clocking mtf troons (even if they're not sure what's off necessarily) but it's pretty hard to miss imo and it's not just one thing but the combination of small things, I think. He's definitely pretty and I think the makeup, hair, and clothes can be a little blinding but he still has a cleft chin, very long face for a cis woman, very strong jaw, long nose, pronounced brow ridge, male hairline, and thin hair. There could totally exist a masculine cis woman who has some of these traits, but the combination of all of them screams male.

Granted, I can't clock ftms as easily or instinctively so maybe there's something to women being able to clock mtfs and men clocking ftms?
 
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