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[Pimp C]

The web of control transcends private or government entities, though. The alphabet agencies, the media, and the relevant politicians all communicate with one another.

There are too many examples of things that seem like coordinated activity. Is it just a coincidence that the memeflu created the justification for mass mail in ballots across battleground states, the media's subsequent insistence that elections are totally fraud proof and all examples have been deboonked, and big tech's subsequent shutdown of all questioning of this obvious fraud.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

I consider Twitter and every other censorious website with Section 230 platform protections to be deep state. Until those sites willingly forfeit or are stripped of those protections (thereby opening them up to civil liability) they are essentially violating your free speech with the consent of the government.

Section 230 is the only reason this site doesn't get sued to death by random retards, I'd keep it.

 

[Gehenna]

Section 230 is the only reason this site doesn't get sued to death by random retards, I'd keep it.

The problem is that it is not fit for purpose, I say replace it.

 

[Pomniman]

Section 230 is the only reason this site doesn't get sued to death by random retards, I'd keep it.

Null's fugitive lifestyle has rotted his brain in recent years to the point where this site is exactly as milquetoast as anything else on the contemporary internet.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

Null's fugitive lifestyle has rotted his brain in recent years to the point where this site is exactly as milquetoast as anything else on the contemporary internet.

Section 230 is a legal defence against random frivolous lawsuits from retards like Russell Greer. It doesn't matter if the site is "milquetoast" or not, it's useful to not get bankrupted.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I heard some bimbo happily exclaim "The orange man is out of the white house!" yesterday in those exact words.

So are Trump voters yelling "NOOO" into the sky, having meltdowns on social media, marketing ice cream with ethnically diverse "RESIST" on it it, or walking out of classes? How very odd...

 

[Pomniman]

Section 230 is a legal defence against random frivolous lawsuits from retards like Russell Greer. It doesn't matter if the site is "milquetoast" or not, it's useful to not get bankrupted.

That's not what I'm saying. My point is that you may as well just go on any generic forum now if this place goes tits up. There won't be as much of a difference in overall content as you'd think.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

My name is John Pavlovitz and I have a small penis.

(archive)

Yeah, maybe I'm going overboard with the small dick remarks, but wow, this guy.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

That's not what I'm saying. My point is that you may as well just go on any generic forum now if this place goes tits up. There won't be as much of a difference in overall content as you'd think.

Sure, but with no Section 230 those other generic fora would get trashed by stupid lolsuits too.

 

[Pomniman]

Sure, but with no Section 230 those other generic fora would get trashed by stupid lolsuits too.

lolsuits aren't some kind of magical spell that automatically destroys any target you cast them on. No one has the kind of money or dedication it'd take to shut down literally everything, especially more banal, obscure places with stricter moderation.

 

[Pointless Pedant]

lolsuits aren't some kind of magical spell that automatically destroys any target you cast them on. No one has the kind of money or dedication it'd take to shut down literally everything, especially more banal, obscure places with stricter moderation.

Kiwi Farms has been sued several times, and any replacement "lolcow" site would be too.

 

[verissimus]

Can i ask you guys something? Do you Trump supporters and right-wingers in this forums genuinely believe that "The Deep State" is a thing and Trump is fighting it? I have been watching some online contents from the right about recent events and many of them actually list "The Deep State" as one of the reasons that Trump lost.

To an extent yes, though I'm not particularly beholden to the general term "the Deep State" (hearing new terms for old ideas tends to piss me off) nor this idea of Trump heroically, in some grandiose fashion, fighting against it though that's not to say he isn't fighting against certain vested interests that is undeniably true.

And that really is all it is. A group of people in media, public elected office, and the bureaucracies possibly with the same political ideology/faction (a usual commonality) collaborating/colluding to advance or protect an interest they have by fair or foul means.

Let's take the media/government connection. In this case you have examples of people from both political spectrums who leave office or a campaign to join say ABC, NBC, etc. (see George Stephanoupolis for example) or who have familial relations with political figures who likely used their influence to get their relatives in positions of media (see Fredo Cuomo). This is absolutely nothing new and not surprising nor limited only to one side though I think, if the Left has their win with a legitimate or illegitimate Biden regime, then it will become a far more exclusive monopoly for them since I'm sure Fox will be pressured to purge contributors like say Gowdy, but that's beside the point.

The government/bureaucrat connection should need no explanation. Politicians appoint bureaucrats, plain and simple, but some go out of their way to install favorites into juicy positions. Maybe it's Ted Cruz wanting to get some Colonel from Texas he knows into the Department of State or something or Donald Trump appointing Mitch McConnell's wife as Secretary of Commerce (if I'm not mistaken) as a favor/nod to McConnell I'm sure. This is pretty standard stuff. These people are intended to circle the wagon if necessary or go after somebody the Inner Circle construes as an enemy to them and their interest.

The whole thing pretty much is the contemporary version of I scratch your back, you scratch mine/client-patron relationship. This is why I don't care for the new lingo "Deep State" because it's based on an idea as old as the Romans.

 

[Pomniman]

Kiwi Farms has been sued several times, and any replacement "lolcow" site would be too.

There are some very, very obvious workarounds to that sort of thing but it's easier to look at what's failed/failing and assume the sky would fall due to tunnel vision.

 

[Gehenna]

To an extent yes, though I'm not particularly beholden to the general term "the Deep State" (hearing new terms for old ideas tends to piss me off) nor this idea of Trump heroically, in some grandiose fashion, fighting against it though that's not to say he is fighting against certain vested interests that is undeniably true.

And that really is all it is. A group of people in media, public elected office, and the bureaucracies possibly with the same political ideology/faction (a usual commonality) collaborating/colluding to advance or protect an interest they have by fair or foul means.

Let's take the media/government connection. In this case you have examples of people from both political spectrums who leave office or a campaign to join say ABC, NBC, etc. (see George Stephanoupolis for example) or who have familial relations with political figures who likely used their influence to get their relatives in positions of media (see Fredo Cuomo). This is absolutely nothing new and not surprising nor limited only to one side though I think, if the Left has their win with a legitimate or illegitimate Biden regime, then it will become a far more exclusive monopoly since I'm sure Fox will be pressured to purge contributors like say Gowdy, but that's beside the point.

The government/bureaucrat connection should need no explanation. Politicians appoint bureaucrats, plain and simple, but some go out of their way to install favorites into juicy positions. Maybe it's Ted Cruz wanting to get some Colonel from Texas he knows into the Department of State or something or Donald Trump appointing Mitch McConnell's wife as Secretary of Commerce if I'm not mistaken as a favor/nod to McConnell I'm sure. This is pretty standard stuff. These people are intended to circle the wagon if necessary or go after somebody the Inner Circle construes as an enemy to them and their interest.

The whole thing pretty much is the contemporary version of I scratch your back, you scratch mine/client-patron relationship. This is why I don't care for the new lingo "Deep State" because it's based on an idea as old as the Romans.

Its effectively a serious of incestuous relationships from related and corrupt interests working together. I'd add on to this, it runs to varying depths. Obama attempted to create a proper 'deep state' by systematically bringing only his absolutely faithful cronies up through the ranks of the three letter agencies, but that's as close as we have gotten to what a lot of people think of when the term is used.

Mostly, its just a series of informal, incestuous alliances of opportunity. That being said, they all have knives aimed at eachother too.

 

[Bad_Guys_are_Good4EVER]

Apparently we are going to hear something important tomorrow. Don't know what it is, but I'm intrigued by my curiosity.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Apparently we are going to hear something important tomorrow. Don't know what it is, but I'm intrigued by my curiosity.

Hillary Clinton finally going to prison?

 

[verissimus]

Reminder #5 - This is what Biden's "civility and unity" looks like : https://www.theblaze.com/news/biden-supporters-rallies-trump-effigy

Also reminder : this is how we know COVID was a hoax.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

Also reminder : this is how we know COVID was a hoax.

Nah that was the riots they excused and pretended were at the fault of white supremacists.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Reminder #5 - This is what Biden's "civility and unity" looks like : https://www.theblaze.com/news/biden-supporters-rallies-trump-effigy

Also reminder : this is how we know COVID was a hoax.

Covid definitely isn't a hoax you tard. I had it, it sucks. Even as a healthy young male I was down for over a week. I can 100% see how it is deadly for old or immunocompromised people.

Man the "covid is a hoax" shit pisses me off because of how schizo it is.

 

[SBG]

Can i ask you guys something? Do you Trump supporters and right-wingers in this forums genuinely believe that "The Deep State" is a thing and Trump is fighting it? I have been watching some online contents from the right about recent events and many of them actually list "The Deep State" as one of the reasons that Trump lost.

Yes? The deep state is essentially government bureaucrats that have their own idea of what the government should be doing which are divorced from what any elected officials believe.

Trump has more strongly gone against the establishment politicians' orthodoxy, so he definitely has had to deal with the deep state. Often times these are bureaucrats that believe fully in globalism and go hysterical over Russia, so someone like Trump that didn't want to sabre rattle towards Russia made many of them go nuts. The media and deep state formed an ouroboros constantly feeding into each others' hysteria, so many of the deep state acted brazenly such as with Vindman or the CIA guy whose name I can't remember due to how often it was censored.

To deny the concept of the deep state is to deny the idea that government bureaucrats could act on their own, which includes simply dragging their feet with filing their work if it's for a policy they disagree with.

For obvious reasons, the media framed the idea of the deep state as a "conspiracy theory" and that for it to be real (even though they'd used the phrase before Trump) that it must involve all sorts of secret rendezvous and elaborate plans. The reality is a lot more mundane. Some random office worker would hear from a coworker that Trump made a call and brought up government corruption, leading them to leak to the media a fraction of the story in order to depict it as corrupt for Trump to talk about corruption (this was pretty much the impeachment saga). None of this stuff takes a lot of effort, nor carries much risk since no one in the establishment would want to punish someone for going against Trump, seeing as most of them believe in all the conspiracies about him that the deep state does.