US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 


Illegal immigrants from Central America streamed into Mexico earlier this year, betting that a Democrat winning the White House next month would dramatically improve the odds of being able to continue north, successfully jump the U.S. border and gain a foothold.

“I want Trump out,” one Honduran migrant, cradling her child, told the Center for Immigration Studies during a January fact-finding mission. “I’ll wait for that because it would make things easier to get it.”

If Democratic nominee Joseph R. Biden wins the presidency next month, he is likely to pay off on the woman’s bet.

Mr. Biden has vowed to wipe away as much of President Trump’s immigration policies as possible, and given how much Mr. Trump has done through executive action, there is much Mr. Biden can nix with the stroke of a pen.

Gone would be the travel ban, the border emergency that is siphoning Pentagon money to the wall and Mr. Trump’s crackdown on bogus asylum claims. The former vice president also has said that given the reins, he would ask Congress to offer a chance at legal status to 11 million illegal immigrants and expand legal avenues for future immigrants.

The president, meanwhile, sees unfinished business to attend to if he wins another term.

Sanctuary cities still thumb their noses at the president, his border wall remains a work in progress, children born to illegal immigrants on U.S. soil still get automatic citizenship, and despite three years of trying to end and replace Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, the Obama-era program remains precariously legal.

There may be no single issue in this election where the two candidates diverge more than immigration.

Mark Krikorian, executive director at the Center for Immigration Studies, said Mr. Trump has the strictest immigration policy of any major-party nominee in modern political history, and “clearly Biden has the most permissive.”

“It’s not just legalizing all the illegal immigrants, which obviously you’d need Congress to do. Bush and Obama tried the same thing. But he’s also proposed to stop all deportations for 100 days, which would include hardened criminals,” said Mr. Krikorian, an advocate for stricter immigration controls.

He said it makes sense that immigration is the most divergent issue for the two men. Mr. Trump made it the centerpiece of his 2016 campaign, and Mr. Biden “is running almost purely as the anti-Trump.”

Despite Mr. Trump’s heavy focus on immigration, it has not been raised in either the first presidential debate nor this week’s vice presidential debate.

The issue placed seventh on the list of voter priorities compiled in the Harvard Center for American Political Studies/Harris poll in late September, behind the coronavirus, the economy, health care, race, climate change and civil disorder. It was tied with crime and just ahead of the federal debt and corruption.

Even among Hispanic voters, immigration ranks low, according to Pew Research Center polling.

But Ali Noorani, executive director of America is Better, an advocacy group, said there is a real opportunity for big changes should Mr. Biden win the election.

“If there’s one thing that has become clear over the course of the nation’s response to COVID-19, it’s that the American public has come to truly value the contributions of immigrants who are here — documented or not,” he said.

Mr. Noorani said people in the country illegally but working in essential jobs deserve a chance at a path to citizenship. They join more than 600,000 “Dreamers” and several hundred thousand migrants in the U.S. under special humanitarian temporary protected status as likely targets for Congress to legalize.

Mr. Biden, in his campaign literature, aims even higher. He says all of the “nearly 11 million” illegal immigrants in the U.S. now deserve a chance at citizenship.

Those opportunities are matched, however, by fear of what Mr. Trump might do if given the reins for another four years.

“The Trump administration’s really cruel approach to immigrant children has left a deep scar on the psyche of the American public,” Mr. Noorani said. “I think we have to realize that approach will continue in a second Trump administration.”

He was referring to the administration’s “zero tolerance” border policy from 2018, as migrant caravans surged north bringing tens of thousands of Central Americans, many of them traveling as families.

Under zero tolerance, about 50% of parents were prosecuted for illegal entry, which meant they were put into federal jails and their children were taken away and put into federally contracted dorms for unaccompanied alien children.

But the administration wasn’t prepared to reunite them after the parents were released, and thousands were separated. Two years later, the government is still trying to connect some children with deported parents.

The policy, in addition to being a public relations black eye, did not stop the surge, which grew until spring 2019, shattering records for children and family migration.

Mr. Biden has vowed to end prosecutions of parents for “minor immigration violations” and said he would work to reunify any children still separated.

He also said he would try to “repeal” state laws that prohibit sanctuary cities because he fears domestic violence and sexual assault victims are afraid to report crimes in those states.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, has spent most of his tenure trying, without much success, to stop sanctuary cities. Instead, sanctuary cities have spread largely in response to his administration’s get-tough policies.

There are some key unanswered questions about both men’s plans.

Despite nearly four years in office, it’s not clear exactly how many of the 11 million illegal immigrants Mr. Trump believes deserve a shot at citizenship.

In 2018, he broke ground by proposing to at least grant DACA recipients a pathway. But he rejected suggestions to add hundreds of thousands of other illegal immigrants under special humanitarian temporary protected status.

Mr. Biden, meanwhile, has said he would stop building the border wall. Those on both sides of the debate wonder whether he would pull down some or all of the hundreds of miles constructed under Mr. Trump.

Most of that mileage is upgrades to fencing Mr. Biden voted for in the Senate in 2006.

Mr. Biden’s campaign website has two immigration plans. One is his own list of priorities, and the other is the product of the unity task force he formed with Sen. Bernard Sanders of Vermont, his chief opponent for the Democratic nomination.

That task force plan calls for adding illegal immigrants to Obamacare, canceling cooperation agreements with local police and offering taxpayer-funded attorneys to migrants facing deportation.

Then there is the question of what illegal immigrants themselves will do.

The Trump administration solved the family migrant surge last year by threatening crippling tariffs on Mexico unless it got tougher about its own borders. Mexico complied and blocked tens of thousands of Central Americans from ever reaching the U.S.-Mexico line.

Meanwhile, agreements struck with Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala allowed for faster deportations, and new rules on asylum claims let the U.S. push many of the migrants back into Mexico to wait for their cases to be decided. That discouraged many from trying in the first place.

Combined, those moves ended the family surge. Encounters with illegal immigrants at the southwestern border fell from nearly 145,000 in May 2019 to about 23,000 this May, though the numbers are ticking up again.

Mr. Biden said he would revoke Mr. Trump’s asylum changes. His solution to the Central American migrant crisis is nation-building in Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. He hopes to improve conditions so people would rather stay than flee to the U.S.

Todd Bensman, the Center for Immigration Studies investigator who found the migrants in Mexico anticipating a Democratic election win, said Mr. Biden’s plans amount to an invitation to a new caravan crisis.

He said he has seen signs that Haitians, Cubans and people from the Middle East and Africa are massing in Mexico, joining Central Americans who are anticipating the ouster of Mr. Trump.

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Joe Biden is a terrible candidate.

He is 77 years old; he is incoherent; he has called a "lid" every other day of his campaign to avoid serious questioning. His running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., is so unpopular that she dropped out of the Democratic primaries before they even reached her home state. The Biden-Harris campaign is absolutely lackluster.

And according to national polling, Biden is leading incumbent President Donald Trump by up to 16 points. In the RealClearPolitics polling average, Trump is trailing Biden in every single swing state. Were the election held today, by the RealClearPolitics statistics, Biden would win 375 electoral votes, picking up states including North Carolina, Georgia, Virginia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

How is this happening? How did a doddering fool, a career politician mostly famous for his incurable logorrhea, end up in the catbird seat one month before the 2020 election?

The answer is simple: Joe Biden understands the nature of this election. Donald Trump simply does not.

To understand this election does not require a graduate course in political science: If the election is a referendum on President Trump, he will lose; if the election is a referendum on Joe Biden, he will lose. Trump is personally unpopular by every poll metric, and he has been consistently unpopular for years, but he was still able to win in 2016 because Hillary Clinton was even less popular. The same could have held true here.

After all, Biden has opened himself wide to serious questioning. He has repeatedly refused to state whether he is in favor of ending the Senate filibuster, adding new states and packing the Supreme Court, calling such questions distractions; he has refused to condemn the antifa movement; he has soft-pedaled Black Lives Matter violence in America's major cities; he has put forward the most left-wing platform in American history, according to communist fellow traveler Bernie Sanders.

But Biden hasn't answered a single serious question. He has been able to avoid nearly all questions by pointing at his opponent. Biden hasn't just run a lackluster campaign; he hasn't run any campaign. He hasn't even walked a campaign. He has essentially grown into his couch in his Delaware basement, getting out only long enough to stand in front of an empty field or answer a few softball questions from a friendly pseudo-journalist.

That's not just because the media hate Trump and sycophantically massage Biden, though they do. It's because Trump himself steadfastly refuses to recognize the central issue of the campaign: his own centrality.

Trump loves being the center of attention, and he simply refuses to cede the spotlight. Every day is a new spectacle in Trumpland, from descending in Marine One onto the White House lawn amid dramatic music to reenter quarantine to tweeting incessantly about the latest news of the day. The media hang on Trump's every word, and he appears to love that.

But that symbiotic relationship between Trump and the media puts Trump at a dramatic disadvantage. The more people think about Trump, the less they want to.

In 2016, the "Access Hollywood" tape unintentionally relegated Trump to the sidelines in the last days of the campaign, freeing the way for then-FBI Director James Comey to put the spotlight squarely on Hillary Clinton's emails -- and Trump won.

In 2018, Democrats seized the spotlight by unjustly and cruelly maligning Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and the polls consequently tightened; then Trump seized the spotlight back by talking about illegal immigrant caravans, and Democrats won.

Joe Biden has learned the lesson. Biden has spent this campaign pointing at Trump. Trump, who should be pointing at Biden, is too busy pointing at himself. Unless Trump somehow suppresses his ego enough to allow Biden to become the issue, Trump is likely to exit the political stage altogether come Nov. 3.
On the second one, again, it will be sad if people vote Trump out just because the news cycle is tiresome. Guess the psychological warfare of "World War III" is the Democrat plan.
 
Man, Somebody involved in setting up Biden's campaign stops really has a thing for those little white circles. Could just plop down some chairs and get the same spacing, But that isn't conspicuous enough or something.
 
On the second one, again, it will be sad if people vote Trump out just because the news cycle is tiresome. Guess the psychological warfare of "World War III" is the Democrat plan.
If they do then America deserves to become a 9th world nation.

Tim Pool in his epic rant, mocked idiots like that who think it will end when the left will just keep pushing and pushing.

Also the nation building will create even more illegal immigrants. America is a failure at nation building. Reagan is really the start of the decline since that is when the leftist menace took root and was never removed.
 
Not to mention how those individual candidates did in those states which Trump can't control.
I would say the reason GOP lost the house is because of Paul Ryan turning into a complete cuckold. And the GOP just completely died in California. We can blame demographics partially on that one as long time GOP destricts switched to the democrats.

Majority of the opposition to Trump comes from California and the elites of California want to drag the rest of the nation hard into its degenerate shithole ideas. Trump is basically a giant threat to California because he actually cares about the domestic problems rather than bend over and open his asshole for forever war globohomo professional posturing.
 
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Yeah, that's one shit-kicker of a crowd you've got there.
 

>Pulls down mask
>Coughs into hand
>Puts mask back on


Just don't even wear the mask because what's the fucking point if you're doing that shit. Are you actually retarded?
 
On the second one, again, it will be sad if people vote Trump out just because the news cycle is tiresome. Guess the psychological warfare of "World War III" is the Democrat plan.
Look, if America votes for Harris over Trump after everything thay has happened over the last 5 years, Americans deserve the shithole they get. It's really that simple.
 
Shapiro is a moron for blaming 2018 on Trump, not least because he refused to acknowledge the tremendous voter fraud in several states.
2018 was very good for Trump. the first midterms are always hard, and the GOP did pick up senate seats. you wanna see a bad first midterm, look at 2010, Obama got obliterated.

The main problem in 2018 was on a local level, and Trump had very little to do with the GOP fielding bad people.
 
2018 was very good for Trump. the first midterms are always hard, and the GOP did pick up senate seats. you wanna see a bad first midterm, look at 2010, Obama got obliterated.

The main problem in 2018 was on a local level, and Trump had very little to do with the GOP fielding bad people.
Not sure how or why it's been forgotten so quickly, but practically every Republican who lost was a NeverTrumper. There was a larger portion of the Republican party who werent on the Trump Train and they needed to be purged. They were in 2018 in the House losses. Trump was fighting his own party in the beginning and it wasn't until 2018 the majority of republicans decided to get in line.
 
Not sure how or why it's been forgotten so quickly, but practically every Republican who lost was a NeverTrumper. There was a larger portion of the Republican party who werent on the Trump Train and they needed to be purged. They were in 2018 in the House losses.
the never Trumpers in the senate werent realy harmed. they even picked up seats, something that normaly doesnt happens in the first midterms of a president.
 
the never Trumpers in the senate werent realy harmed. they even picked up seats, something that normaly doesnt happens in the first midterms of a president.
The only NeverTrumper in the senate is Romeney though. The republican in Maine and one other state(both women, forget which) aren't really never trumpers but arent really republicans either. Atleast those are the ones I'm aware of who arent "with" Trump. Are there others?
 
Most of the Republicans who lost, lost because there was no genuine enthusiasm on the part of the voters for those particular Republican politicians. I've been seeing people trying to somehow extrapolate from those 2018 losses to claim that there's no enthusiasm for Trump, that Trump's doomed to defeat and that means the downticket races are doomed to defeat as well. The difference is that Trump himself is on the ballot this time. They called 2018 a referendum about Blonald Blupfh. Guess what, this time it really is a referendum, and Republican enthusiasm for Trump could not be higher. There's lots of people champing at the bit to get out to a polling place and vote for Trump. His voters are going to vote Republic downticket, too, as long as they're already voting. I think Republicans are going to pull in some surprising wins. Especially if people that are lying to pollsters and hiding their Trump support are also lying to those same pollsters about their local favored candidates.

I sure hope there aren't any upcoming events in the House and Senate that would further raise Republican morale and voting participation, something like Nancy Pelosi blocking stimulus checks and trying to launch a coup against the Republicans via the 25th Amendment or senatorial Democrats launching an anti-religion inquisition against a nice, bright, attractive christian lady. Bonus points if they try to smear her, and Republicans in general, as somehow racist for daring to give a couple of orphans a nice, upper-middle-class home, an education and a future, and love.
 
Look, if America votes for Harris over Trump after everything thay has happened over the last 5 years, Americans deserve the shithole they get. It's really that simple.

I wouldn't be so hard on all those people who are bombarded with propaganda 24/7. I mean the average person is just SATURATED in mainstream opinion shaping and corporate product whoring (including political "product"). By definition an average voter does not spend hours looking at fringe content aggregators, they don't even know a place like this exists, their worldview generally isn't ready for a place like this in any case. They engage only with the politics that reaches them.

You can lay some philosophical blame on them for being ignorant, but that's a really harsh take considering the nature of politics itself. Admittedly, things are getting crazier and there's less of an excuse to be unaware, it's time to pay attention and choose sides, but condemning many millions of people because they were drowned in a sea of bad information is not very sensible.

I will be incredibly disappointed with the voters in case of a Biden/Scarris win however, it doesn't even matter what you think of Trump... anyone who's over about 25 years of age knows what GENERIC DEM TICKET (or generic R ticket really) means, and it's never been good, and it's always been bad for the average person, and I don't know how someone could look at the past 50 or 60 years of American political history and be like "Yeah I want some more of THAT".
 
I wouldn't be so hard on all those people who are bombarded with propaganda 24/7. I mean the average person is just SATURATED in mainstream opinion shaping and corporate product whoring (including political "product"). By definition an average voter does not spend hours looking at fringe content aggregators, they don't even know a place like this exists, their worldview generally isn't ready for a place like this in any case. They engage only with the politics that reaches them.

You can lay some philosophical blame on them for being ignorant, but that's a really harsh take considering the nature of politics itself. Admittedly, things are getting crazier and there's less of an excuse to be unaware, it's time to pay attention and choose sides, but condemning many millions of people because they were drowned in a sea of bad information is not very sensible.

I will be incredibly disappointed with the voters in case of a Biden/Scarris win however, it doesn't even matter what you think of Trump... anyone who's over about 25 years of age knows what GENERIC DEM TICKET (or generic R ticket really) means, and it's never been good, and it's always been bad for the average person, and I don't know how someone could look at the past 50 or 60 years of American political history and be like "Yeah I want some more of THAT".
Yeah.. your last paragraph is why I disagree with the first two. If you are older than 25 you know the system is bullshit and Trump isn't apart of that system. If you vote for the shitty system then that's your fault.

Also, you don't have to pay attention or be as knowledgeable as people on here. The news is just wrong. Like flat out wrong. Wrong according to their own stories they put out. Trump's administration has been "under turmoil" since before he was elected. If you still believe that's true or somehow it's a negative your dumb. I have family members who believe this and they are dumb when it comes to this. They and everyone else who votes for Harris deserve everything that comes with it. Dont vote if you don't know what's going on or aren't paying attention. If you are going to look into it the. Actually look into everything. And so much of the bullshit has been public. The Mueller investigation, the impeachment, Trump's taxes, it's all bullshit. The biggest complaint about Trump is his manor and being rude. If you care about someone being rude over their job performance you're retarded.

I repeat, if Harris wins. Americans deserve the shithole they vote for.
 
Yeah.. your last paragraph is why I disagree with the first two. If you are older than 25 you know the system is bullshit and Trump isn't apart of that system. If you vote for the shitty system then that's your fault.

Also, you don't have to pay attention or be as knowledgeable as people on here. The news is just wrong. Like flat out wrong. Wrong according to their own stories they put out. Trump's administration has been "under turmoil" since before he was elected. If you still believe that's true or somehow it's a negative your dumb. I have family members who believe this and they are dumb when it comes to this. They and everyone else who votes for Harris deserve everything that comes with it. Dont vote if you don't know what's going on or aren't paying attention. If you are going to look into it the. Actually look into everything. And so much of the bullshit has been public. The Mueller investigation, the impeachment, Trump's taxes, it's all bullshit. The biggest complaint about Trump is his manor and being rude. If you care about someone being rude over their job performance you're retarded.

I repeat, if Harris wins. Americans deserve the shithole they vote for.
I think it's a big assumption to place a Harris win as anything involving living voters.
 
I think it's a big assumption to place a Harris win as anything involving living and / or human voters.
FTFY. We know every cat, dog, bird, whatever pet or stray with a given name will be voting blue.

Joe Biden (and Kamala) continues to not say either "Yes" or "No" in regards to packing the Supreme Court. [Archive at your leisure]

So @MrJokerRager, on that Shapirograph, it's bunk. Joe since the begin of his campaign, will always try to protect himself from his scandals by angrily deflecting to what can barely be considered points about "That man!" People want to see whether or not his policies are okay for the next 4 years, should he be elected, but the Biden boy always has to cater to feels (those who have an ax to grind towards the Don). And I think since the Veep Debate, Harris might have made people roll their eyes thanks to repetitious "Trump bad and racist!" and "Charlottesville happened under Trump, REMEMBER IT AND NEVER FORGET, OR ELSE!"
 
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