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The point here is that any field where you absolutely need to know the minutiae of details probably isn't going to be political. If this were a debate between engineers or scientists, fine. The thing is, you don't need to be a well-researched expert to participate in 99% of the sorts of things we are talking about. In fact, the people who demand more granular details are most likely trying to argue away from the facts.

An example would be racial IQ. It is undeniable that IQ effects behavior in a multitude of small ways, it is inarguable that those many small things can amount to a bad situation in peoples' lives, and it is without question that black people have a significantly lower average IQ. This cannot even be debated, this is true. The studies are there, there's loads of studies, there's loads of independent analyses that back it up. Really anything beyond that as a citizen does not matter, the why does not matter, we can come up with solutions. We have tried every solution, none of them seem to work.
That has similarly been well documented, you don't need a PhD to be familiar with it. Where it gets dicey is when they try to argue the why, and say "well YES there are more black people in prison, but that's BECAUSE _________" and that becomes their political policy, and that policy will land squarely in the lap of white people. Then the avalanche of speculation and insane details and interpretations come to guilt people into thinking they owe all black people one 10 trillion dollars, and that's their argument for the white person as a citizen.
But all you need to say is "I do not owe black people 10 trillion dollars for being criminals," and they literally have nothing.
You do not need to have a binder filled with 15 social scientists to know their solution is both retarded and destructive. We might as well say "everything will be better if black people become slaves again." I can craft an insane tornado of speculatives and suppositions and interpretations to sell them on that, and as a citizen all a black person has to say is "I don't want to be a slave." And that's the end of it.

All anyone needs to do is remember, no matter what, that people like Vaush and Destiny are not, in fact, political. What they are doing is not coming up with policy or laws or a 5 year plan. They don't actually give a shit about that and they're hoping they can gish-gallop you into forgetting that. Every position they have boils down to "you should change as a person, you owe it to (group X.) Just say no, just say you don't want to change. Done. You can apply this to everything. Everyone has that power, and it is their mission to make you forget that.

The best part is, dopes like Vaush can fall prey to this very same logic. I've seen it before with leftists, they start our straight and with a little bit of Progressive and Marxist dialectic applied you can convince them to be bisexual, or full on gay. You can actually make a political case that being straight doesn't exist and it's all conditioning, and they will come out the other end like "welp, that makes a lot of sense, I guess I better go suck a dick!" It never enters into their mind that they just don't want to get fucked in the ass, it's just a web of weird logic.
Trannies especially have latched onto this to try and nag leftists into fucking them for praxis.
This post lowered my racial IQ
 
This is exactly what I was going to bring up. Only a few years ago, academia and the peer review process had a big scandal in which several fake studies were put forward that were made as ridiculous as possible to see how bad the problem of bias in academia and the peer review process was. They all got through because they catered to far left social justice beliefs. Academia is corrupt and biased, and every study should be read through and analyzed, not taken at face value.

But Vaush doesn't just appeal to studies. Half the time he appeals to the simple fact that they exist, not anything in them. He says these studies are absolutely authoritative but doesn't explain their methodology or the numbers they got. It's pure begging the question and appeal to authority.

The Prosecutor's takedown:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=inIkZnIkCeUThis guy has a few cowish tendencies himself, mainly his large ego for the size of his channel and insistence that all these much bigger Youtubers secretly watch him and respond to him without naming him. Maybe Vaush does, but when he said that Hunter Avallone is, it was because of Avallone's reply to some very common criticism of him. It's not like Pros was unique in taking Fagallone to task for calling all his old friends fascist and practically licking Vaush's shoes on their stream together.

Nonetheless, he has quickly become my favorite way to ingest Vaush's bullshit. He's concise and gets to the heart of whatever the argument is about. He also seems to actually know what the fuck he's talking about in regards to the legal system, unlike most people on either side of these debates. By contrast, people like Sargon's lackey PSA Sitch who make reply videos to Vaush ramble for hours while rarely having a point.

The debate was a whole clusterfuck IMO. Vaush and Destiny had the burden of proof, and while they cited studies as authorities, they did not justify those authorities. Since Vaush and Destiny had the burden of proof, Allsup and Striker should have directly challenged them on the studies like how The Prosecutor did. That would force Vaush and Destiny to meet the burden the proof, go beyond the abstract, and keep the debate on track.

Instead, the debate meandered from stock-and-frisk policies to broken-windows policing to biased juries to falling crime rates since the 90s. They are tangentially related to the debate topic, whether blacks are treated worse by the criminal justice system even after accounting for the 13/50 meme, but no one consistently linked those talking points to the overall topic. Striker was a sped who could not help himself going on tangential rants since the beginning of the debate. Vaush was an incontinent blowhard trying to be cool. Destiny was Slimy Steve as usual. Allsup barely made up for Striker's defects.

The debate was popcorn entertainment. No one seriously engaged with the topic or studies. Vaush and Destiny got their shekels though - Destiny was kind enough to be open about it - so they were obviously the true winners.
 
I wonder if he realizes that everything he says about the Far Right in this video is 100% applicable to his side.
What he says in this video wouldn't convert a lefty, though.
Because nothing in this video would convert a righty, either. It won't convert anyone. It's just how you lose friends.
 
I wonder if he realizes that everything he says about the Far Right in this video is 100% applicable to his side.
What he says in this video wouldn't convert a lefty, though.
Because nothing in this video would convert a righty, either. It won't convert anyone. It's just how you lose friends.
He's very right about not trying to convince people who don't value what you have to say. But he strays from the path by demonizing his opponents and dismissing their concerns. This is why people find leftists and their snark annoying.
 
The debate was a whole clusterfuck IMO. Vaush and Destiny had the burden of proof, and while they cited studies as authorities, they did not justify those authorities. Since Vaush and Destiny had the burden of proof, Allsup and Striker should have directly challenged them on the studies like how The Prosecutor did. That would force Vaush and Destiny to meet the burden the proof, go beyond the abstract, and keep the debate on track.

Instead, the debate meandered from stock-and-frisk policies to broken-windows policing to biased juries to falling crime rates since the 90s. They are tangentially related to the debate topic, whether blacks are treated worse by the criminal justice system even after accounting for the 13/50 meme, but no one consistently linked those talking points to the overall topic. Striker was a sped who could not help himself going on tangential rants since the beginning of the debate. Vaush was an incontinent blowhard trying to be cool. Destiny was Slimy Steve as usual. Allsup barely made up for Striker's defects.

The debate was popcorn entertainment. No one seriously engaged with the topic or studies. Vaush and Destiny got their shekels though - Destiny was kind enough to be open about it - so they were obviously the true winners.

I've noticed this lately, in their attempts to take on 13/50 - or in other words, the higher rate of black crime. Their responses tend to meander into what is causing it, but if the question is about whether police or the justice system is racist because a disproportionate amount of blacks engage with the police, or are in the system, then the cause is not directly relevant.

The thing is, I don't even disagree that there is probably some racism (I think this is an over used word and not necessarily the correct way to describe things like policing bias) in the police and justice system. Some studies show that police have a higher index of suspicion for blacks, pull a higher proportion of blacks over during the day time than at night when they can't see race, and are quicker to go hands on. However, to the extent that this is true it is not the primary reason we see a differential rate of blacks engaging with police or the justice system - that's due to the crime rate. This may also inform policing bias rather than racism, people's brains form patterns.

Sure, a history of racism and oppression will play part of what creates the environment for crime to be more common in these communities - but is it all of it? Is there nothing to be said for the violent culture, or the fact many blacks see education as a white thing, or that engagement with the police is low because of the threat of community retaliation and ostracisation, leading to a bastardised honour culture where you've got to take justice into your own hands? This in turn makes murder easier to get away with and therefore makes it a more viable course of action in any given situation.

I'm sure it's a mix of all of these things and more, but these four screaming speds just want whatever satisfies their own narrative to be the cause.
 
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The thing is, I don't even disagree that there is probably some racism (I think this is an over used word and not necessarily the correct way to describe things like policing bias) in the police and justice system. Some studies show that police have a higher index of suspicion for blacks, pull a higher proportion of blacks over during the day time than at night when they can't see race, and are quicker to go hands on. However, to the extent that this is true it is not the primary reason we see a differential rate of blacks engaging with police or the justice system - that's due to the crime rate. This may also inform policing bias rather than racism, people's brains form patterns.
Vaush said black people get pulled over more often because their cars are low riding, blasting rap music and every cop can tell a black car from a mile away. Maybe if those ""scientists"" factored that into their studies we would know why blacks were being stopped more often, but luckily Vaush has figured it out all on his own
 
The debate was a whole clusterfuck IMO. Vaush and Destiny had the burden of proof, and while they cited studies as authorities, they did not justify those authorities. Since Vaush and Destiny had the burden of proof, Allsup and Striker should have directly challenged them on the studies like how The Prosecutor did. That would force Vaush and Destiny to meet the burden the proof, go beyond the abstract, and keep the debate on track.

Instead, the debate meandered from stock-and-frisk policies to broken-windows policing to biased juries to falling crime rates since the 90s. They are tangentially related to the debate topic, whether blacks are treated worse by the criminal justice system even after accounting for the 13/50 meme, but no one consistently linked those talking points to the overall topic. Striker was a sped who could not help himself going on tangential rants since the beginning of the debate. Vaush was an incontinent blowhard trying to be cool. Destiny was Slimy Steve as usual. Allsup barely made up for Striker's defects.

The debate was popcorn entertainment. No one seriously engaged with the topic or studies. Vaush and Destiny got their shekels though - Destiny was kind enough to be open about it - so they were obviously the true winners.
Well remember, Vaush only picks right wing people to debate he thinks will sperg out and make fools of themselves. His pet manatee said as much on his server. That he still does as poorly in these debates as he does shows just how "good" he is at debating.

Vaush and Destiny's reaction when Allsup and Striker bring up that they wanted to have a conversation with actual black people and not these two whiter-than-sour-cream guys is interesting. The way they get extremely smug that they headed that effort off. If I didn't know better, I'd swear that's the attitude of same paternal racists who don't think someone with more melanin in their skin could handle a debate with Striker and Allsup.
 
Well remember, Vaush only picks right wing people to debate he thinks will sperg out and make fools of themselves. His pet manatee said as much on his server. That he still does as poorly in these debates as he does shows just how "good" he is at debating.

Vaush and Destiny's reaction when Allsup and Striker bring up that they wanted to have a conversation with actual black people and not these two whiter-than-sour-cream guys is interesting. The way they get extremely smug that they headed that effort off. If I didn't know better, I'd swear that's the attitude of same paternal racists who don't think someone with more melanin in their skin could handle a debate with Striker and Allsup.

I would have appreciated the debate much more if two black people (maybe The1janitor and Trihex) debated Allsup and Striker. Debating right wing losers is a fetish between liberal and leftist white dudes. I imagine black people have too much shit to deal with both in their own communities and in society at large to care about what two brownshirt LARPing spergs think about them.
 
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Honestly seeing anyone try and 'debate' Vaush and/or Destiny immediately makes me think that person is either retarded or a grifter. There's no point talking to either of them; they don't care what you have to say, they don't care what you think. They are both shit flinging degenerates. Don't engage with them, nothing good will come of it.
 
I wonder if he realizes that everything he says about the Far Right in this video is 100% applicable to his side.
What he says in this video wouldn't convert a lefty, though.
Because nothing in this video would convert a righty, either. It won't convert anyone. It's just how you lose friends.
The replies are people who might actually suck vaush off given half a chance, kinda eerie.
 
I'm just annoyed because that's not how that meme is supposed to go. If you just wanna say "x bad, y good" without being funny, you can use the most recent doge bastardization of it. But leftists, memes, yadda yadda I guess.

The big-doge-small-dog memes, at least most of the ones I've seen, usually compare the same thing between different periods of time. Thing X was cool in the past but is lame in the present.
 
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Someone said that on Chris Soy Gun's stream with Vaush, he (either directly or indirectly by not challenging Vaush) called Metokur a Nazi. Can anyone confirm this?

I never really got the impression that Jim was actually a Nazi, unlike Stonetoss and other such figures, but of course to these people he is.
 
I never really got the impression that Jim was actually a Nazi, unlike Stonetoss and other such figures, but of course to these people he is.
Yeah no, I'm not asking about that. I'm asking about if in the CRG Vaush stream Vaush brought up Metokur as an example of a "Nazi", and if CRG either directly or indirectly agreed with him.
 
Many of Vaush's fans believe he's a nazi and Vaush is smart enough to not openly attack Metokur.

Jim would trash Vaush over his "child porn is fine because my computer was made by slaves" nonsense. I wish Jim would get that out on Twitter and trash Vaush's reputation.
 
My discord account I used to lurk got nuked maybe a month ago. I won't be making another one and i was in his discord. If anyone wants to be entertained go there and look up "metokur nazi" in the searchbar.
 
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