Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[BoxerShorts47]

Pedophiles are too broken to be allowed out into society. Even chemical castration doesn't fix them. This is a good example to everyone of the mental gymnastics that pedophiles go through when they try to justify their urges. The hysteria, responsibility dodging, angry accusations against those who question them or confront them, the insistence on redefining words to benefit them. We've seen all of this before with the pedophile lolcows that we follow in other threads.

Usually we see this kind of behavior in leftists but this should serve as an important reminder that right wingers also have a pedophile problem especially now that leftism is slowly but surely falling out of fashion. This means that pedophiles and active child rapists might start gathering around race politics and right wing nationalism in order to camouflage themselves.

Keep this in mind going forward. If we dug into this dude then I suspect we would find affiliations with all sorts of degenerate leftyism before he moved on to right wing politics as a new hunting ground.

Pedophiles is children. We're not talking about pedophila. We're talking about ephebophilia, You're conflating these concepts to pretend adults are kids. You're the immoral person because you want to treat adults like kids.

Ok I'll ask you one question reclarifying about this:

Do you genuinely think republicans/conservatives have never ever hurt liberals before?

I think Republicans treat Democrats better than Democrats treat Republicans.

 

[bothiggedyhog]

1. I said physically adults. not mentally. I've met people that are age 40 and still have the mentality of a 15 yr old.
2. So age of consent laws are regularly violated. That shows that these laws are not culturally accepted by people. They are top down, authoritarian, oppressive.
3. So certain women would actually benefit from lowering age of consent because they have a higher SMV in their mid-late teen years.

age consent laws criminal normal human sexual behavior. They are part of the feminist agenda: it's criminal (sexist) to say you like a women with big titties, a nice butt and a good personality that's young and fertile. So if you aren't fighting to decriminalize consensual sex with 2 human adults than you aren't fighting against the feminists. That simple.

If you look at even western culture, age of 16 would be considered adult "sweet 16." 0 reason for age of consent to be 18 and this creates problems for both men and women.


Nothing really interesting to say because standard New Atheism concepts.
I also think it's 100% necessary to call the liberals "science deniers" for believing DNA is a social construct and that all humans are equal.


We in the dissident right talk about both race and class. We understand that capitalism is an issue but so is diversity. You are the one trying to avoid the race situation.

mother of all gross.. the age of consent here IS 16 and i can still safely tell you that anyone you fuck at age 16 you regret, and thats taking full blown adults out of the picture because theres still laws surrounding it. teen pregnancy historically has ended in far more deaths because the body is NOT fully grown, just because you can does not mean you should, pedo

edit: its ok guys hes not a pedophile hes a distinct classification of pedo which means its ok

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

I think Republicans treat Democrats better than Democrats treat Republicans.

EDIT:

We're not talking about pedophila. We're talking about ephebophilia

 

[GethN7]

Pedophiles is children. We're not talking about pedophila. We're talking about ephebophilia, You're conflating these concepts to pretend adults are kids. You're the immoral person because you want to treat adults like kids.

@AnOminous is a wise man, an ephebophile is just a pedophile with a thesaurus.

 

[José Mourinho]

I'll switch to a different topic then, since I'm out of questions about republicans/democrats whatever.

@BoxerShorts47 In your opinion, what is the country that has the best age of consent laws for you?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

@AnOminous is a wise man, an ephebophile is just a pedophile with a thesaurus.

This is bullshit. These words are Greek constructs. They aren't naively part of English language or culture.
Depending on your culture, transition from child to adult varies.
15 for Hispanic nations
12/13 for Jews
Historical age of consent in USA was 12.
All you're doing is defending a feminist concept without thinking about the pros or cons.
Everyone that looks at age of consent realizes the cons outweigh the pros and it needs to be lowered back to ~12/13.

I've spoken with you long enough to realize you're a 100% NPC. You simply repeat the dominant culture. So when civil rights liberalism was dominant culture you said racism bad, sexism bad. Now that social justice is the dominant culture, you use preferred pro nouns. Same with age of consent, you just defend it because it's the dominant culture. You're just an NPC, that's part of the reason I blocked you. I'm close to blocking you again.

I'll switch to a different topic then, since I'm out of questions about republicans/democrats whatever.

@BoxerShorts47 In your opinion, what is the country that has the best age of consent laws for you?

I have no clue but my point is in USA, age of consent at 18 causes many problems:
1) Criminalizes normal sexual behavior and many people break these laws, especially high school age + college age. "Dude, she told me she 18."
2) It causes normal people to think that 14yr old = 7 yr old. No difference between a child and a young adult. They treat young adults as kids.
3) Makes women distrust men. They think all men are pigs because they notice men are attracted them and the culture say "that's wrong."
4) Takes good women out of the marriage market. They cannot date older men until 18+
5) Force women into degenerate sex-only high school relationships which is not mentally healthy.
Overall these age of consent laws cause big problems for society. Everyone that looks at this issue realizes the age needs to be lowered.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

2. Race and class are mutually exclusive concepts.

How the fuck are those mutually exclusive concepts? Do you know what "mutually exclusive" means? You essentially just said that if race exists class doesn't and vice-versa.

I'm not talking about lolis. I am talking about teenagers.

1. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that teenage girls are in fact women? They are physically adults? not a child or transitioning into adult (pre-teen).
2. Yes or No. Despite being illegal, do you acknowledge that sexual relationships between high school age people (14-18) and college age (18-22) are common?
3. Yes or No. Do you acknowledge that certain women do hit the wall in their 10s? Why teenage models are popular.

I think this issue of jail-bait occurs too frequently; IMO that means it's obvious that age of consent laws are criminalizing normal human sexual behavior. Totally hypocrisy because liberals are going around saying we should decriminalize marijuana usage. People shouldn't be arrested for using weed. Okay than why don't we decriminalize age of consent between 2 consenting adults? This seems like total hypocrisy to me. Alteratively is hetrosexual sex between 2 consenting adults (statutory rape) more or less degenerate than homosexuality?

I've seen the studies that say the brain doesn't fully develop until age 25. I think this is a result of western culture. K-12 system + university put people into a mental prison from the age of 6 till 22. It takes people a few years IRL to start fixing their mental health. If you look into history, you will see that the word teenager didn't exist until ~1940s. Teenager is a product of high school, result of putting kids into prison. So their bodies grow but their minds are stunted. Arrested development? is that the term for this? I also want to abolish k-12 education for this reason but that's a different conversation.

I didn't think it was possible for someone with optics as bad as yours already were to go full "Screw the optics, I'm going in" but somehow you managed to do it. It's really something to see.

1. Puberty is a process, not a switch. It also happens to different people at slightly different ages. You may believe that she's ready to breed after the first time she bleeds, but the rest of society has realized there are a lot of problems with that. In short, no they're not women. They're transitioning into adults. Pre-teens are children.
2. Whether it's common or not highly depends on the culture of a particular area. The culture in areas where young adults are sexing middle schoolers on the regular are widely considered very bad whether it's white trash trailer parks, hoodrat ghettos, or those third world shitholes you hate so much. It drastically reduces the chances of said middle schoolers growing into productive, well-adjusted adults. Also there's a significant difference between a 17 and 18 year old having sex and a 14 year old and 22 year old having sex. "Romeo and Juliet" laws exist in many areas to lesson the criminal charges of the former.
3. "The wall" refers to the physical changes that accompany a woman's fertility dropping steeply and the window closing on her ability to have children. No woman "hits the wall" in her teens. If you feel like this is a common thing, if you frequently find you can't get a boner anymore when a woman hits nineteen or twenty, it means something is wrong with you and your view of puberty and sexual attraction. As for underage teenage models, that's primarily to market to other teenagers particularly teenage girls who are a very profitable demographic due to being voracious consumers. Although predators and sex pests in the modelling business (and all entertainment businesses) are also a huge problem.

So here we see just how worthless your morals are even by wignat standards as you defend and advocate for some of the worst type of behavior that's associated with the shitty third world and (((them))).

I don't want homosexuality blasted into my face.

Well tell them to cum somewhere else then.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

Usually we see this kind of behavior in leftists but this should serve as an important reminder that right wingers also have a pedophile problem especially now that leftism is slowly but surely falling out of fashion. This means that pedophiles and active child rapists might start gathering around race politics and right wing nationalism in order to camouflage themselves.

It's almost like pedos are amoral subhumans with no convictions beyond their disgusting belief that they have the right to fuck kids and will, like parasites, latch onto any movement they think will lead to acceptance

 

[haurchefant]

Pedophiles is children. We're not talking about pedophila. We're talking about ephebophilia, You're conflating these concepts to pretend adults are kids. You're the immoral person because you want to treat adults like kids.


I think Republicans treat Democrats better than Democrats treat Republicans.

okay child rapist

 

[Swiss46]

@BoxerShorts47 is there anything else aboit yourself that you haven't brought up yet? I am truly interested in learning more about your beliefs.

 

[mr.moon1488]

It's almost like pedos are amoral subhumans with no convictions beyond their disgusting belief that they have the right to fuck kids and will, like parasites, latch onto any movement they think will lead to acceptance

The only thing they should be allowed to latch onto is an oven door.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

How the fuck are those mutually exclusive concepts? Do you know what "mutually exclusive" means? You essentially just said that if race exists class doesn't and vice-versa.


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I didn't think it was possible for someone with optics as bad as yours already were to go full "Screw the optics, I'm going in" but somehow you managed to do it. It's really something to see.

1. Puberty is a process, not a switch. It also happens to different people at slightly different ages. You may believe that she's ready to breed after the first time she bleeds, but the rest of society has realized there are a lot of problems with that. In short, no they're not women. They're transitioning into adults. Pre-teens are children.
2. Whether it's common or not highly depends on the culture of a particular area. The culture in areas where young adults are sexing middle schoolers on the regular are widely considered very bad whether it's white trash trailer parks, hoodrat ghettos, or those third world shitholes you hate so much. It drastically reduces the chances of said middle schoolers growing into productive, well-adjusted adults. Also there's a significant difference between a 17 and 18 year old having sex and a 14 year old and 22 year old having sex. "Romeo and Juliet" laws exist in many areas to lesson the criminal charges of the former.
3. "The wall" refers to the physical changes that accompany a woman's fertility dropping steeply and the window closing on her ability to have children. No woman "hits the wall" in her teens. If you feel like this is a common thing, if you frequently find you can't get a boner anymore when a woman hits nineteen or twenty, it means something is wrong with you and your view of puberty and sexual attraction. As for underage teenage models, that's primarily to market to other teenagers particularly teenage girls who are a very profitable demographic due to being voracious consumers. Although predators and sex pests in the modelling business (and all entertainment businesses) are also a huge problem.

So here we see just how worthless your morals are even by wignat standards as you defend and advocate for some of the worst type of behavior that's associated with the shitty third world and (((them))).


Well tell them to cum somewhere else then.

1. Mutually exclusive means separate. race and class exist independent from each other. white poor or black rich. So you must address both of these issues: diversity & income inequality.
2. "Most of society" doesn't matter, appeal to popularity argument. I would counter with the fact that these statutory rape sex. Laws are regulatory broken shows that they are not accepted by society de facto.
3. I'm not saying we should get all women pregant at 14, what I am saying is that not allowing them to get into relationships with old people(.e.g late 10s or 20s typically) causes serious problems including forcing women into degenerate sex-only toxic high school relationships and teaches women them that all men are pigs because they notice older men being sexually attracted to them. I am saying that these laws don't protect kids, they hurt young adults.
4. Many women do peak in their teen years. Maybe even all women? That's why so many modeling agencies use teenage (young adult) models.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

I think it's wonderful that a guy who has isolated himself from the world for years, spending his time obsessively arguing about which vidya gaem console is the best, has come here to tell the world how human sexuality works. He has no actual experience with human sexuality or relationships, but he has some Very Big Thoughts about the morality of 14 year old girls getting fucked in their sweet tender orifices by much older men. He's for it, of course. That's no surprise at all.

 

[Drain Todger]

Niggers like this are why I stopped going to /pol/, this level of retardation is everywhere whenever there isn't a happening to focus them. A pedophile race obsessed screecher that can't vomiting his retardation everywhere.

Shit like this is why I despair of there ever being a true nationalist movement in America, the only people who are interested and would be behind it are fags like this dude.

Indeed. By this point, I am fairly certain that any sort of movement short of the bowel variety would be greatly worsened by the presence of @BoxerShorts47.

If anyone wonders why all the decent banter has dried up and why the good times are gone, it's because of humorless, grunting turds like this.

With every word that passes his fingertips, I can feel a little more of my brains leak out of my skull.

If, by any chance, I wanted a parrot to repeat boilerplate /pol/ talking points, I'd go to the pet store.

15 yr old women

Pedophiles is children. We're not talking about pedophila. We're talking about ephebophilia

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Niggers like this are why I stopped going to /pol/, this level of retardation is everywhere whenever there isn't a happening to focus them. A pedophile race obsessed screecher that can't vomiting his retardation everywhere.

Shit like this is why I despair of there ever being a true nationalist movement in America, the only people who are interested and would be behind it are fags like this dude.

/pol/ is where the real political discussion is occurring.
You guys are stuck in your echo chamber and you want to go back to America ~2012.
Once you start to seriously criticize feminism, you realize that:
> 19A needs to be repealed, 80% of these SJWs are white women with "reufgees welcome" signs. Even Ann Coulter is like repeal the 19A now.
> circumcision needs to be banned. A lot of men feel less manly because they were cut
> age of consent needs to be lowered to ~12-14. These laws don't protect kids, they hurt young adults.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

1. Mutually exclusive means separate. race and class exist independent from each other. white poor or black rich. So you must address both of these issues: diversity & income inequality.

BEEP. Wrong. Separate and mutually exclusive mean different things.

Definition of mutually exclusive

being related such that each excludes or precludes the other

Maybe you should stop using terms you don't understand in an attempt to sound smart. Next time just say separate if you mean separate. Thank you for playing.

2. "Most of society" doesn't matter, appeal to popularity argument. I would counter with the fact that these statutory rape sex. Laws are regulatory broken shows that they are not accepted by society de facto.

The exact same argument could be made of anti sodomy and miscegenation laws, which you want to bring back. Since this is your particular favorite flavor of degeneracy, I guess it's different though.

3. I'm not saying we should get all women pregant at 14, what I am saying is that not allowing them to get into relationships with old people(.e.g late 10s or 20s typically) causes serious problems including forcing women into degenerate sex-only toxic high school relationships and teaches women them that all men are pigs because they notice older men being sexually attracted to them. I am saying that these laws don't protect kids, they hurt young adults.

"Hey baby, you need a man, not a boy!" -Boxershorts47, riding up to the junior-high school on the scooter he bought with his mom's welfare money.

It's telling that you think relationships between high school teenagers are inherently sex-only toxic relationships, but dudes in their twenties trying to pick up high schoolers are somehow superior.

Also, your argument to normalize older men having sex with teenage girls so the teenage girls don't think it's creepy sounds an awful lot like predatory grooming on a grand scale. Much like how pedos try to normalize their behavior...

And of course we know you didn't say to get all women pregnant at 14. You just want the option to be available. For someone who whines about "strawmanning" all the time, you sure are blatant about doing it yourself, you little bitch.

4. Many women do peak in their teen years. Maybe even all women? That's why so many modeling agencies use teenage (young adult) models.

Keep digging that hole deeper. Rest assured, we'll always be here to provide the shovels.

How has this thread not been declared halal yet?

 

[Witthel]

So he's defending pedophilia now?

Why I am not surprised.

 

[The Spice boi]

young adults, not kids
no rape, consent
you're a liar
get lost feminist.

I'm surprised you think that way.

Most white nationalists I've met advocate for the lynching of people like yourself, degenerate.

I wouldn't be talking about which group of degenerates should be exterminated if I were you

 

[haurchefant]

/pol/ is where the real political discussion is occurring.
You guys are stuck in your echo chamber and you want to go back to America ~2012.
Once you start to seriously criticize feminism, you realize that:
> 19A needs to be repealed, 80% of these SJWs are white women with "reufgees welcome" signs. Even Ann Coulter is like repeal the 19A now.
> circumcision needs to be banned. A lot of men feel less manly because they were cut
> age of consent needs to be lowered to ~12-14. These laws don't protect kids, they hurt young adults.

Everyone, look at the strategy being outlined here. He wants to repeal the 19th Amendment and has linked it to lowering the age of consent. This is clearly so that he can divest women of political power because he thinks he'll be able to rape children free and clear this way.

Well, at least it links people who want to repeal the 19th Amendment to child rapists. The connection was always a little fuzzy but now it's more clear.

Indeed. By this point, I am fairly certain that any sort of movement short of the bowel variety would be greatly worsened by the presence of @BoxerShorts47.

If anyone wonders why all the decent banter has dried up and why the good times are gone, it's because of humorless, grunting turds like this.

With every word that passes his fingertips, I can feel a little more of my brains leak out of my skull.

If, by any chance, I wanted a parrot to repeat boilerplate /pol/ talking points, I'd go to the pet store.

Yes. To wit:

Ultimate horseshoe theory:
All political quadrants lead to kiddy diddling.

 

[SIGSEGV]

@BoxerShorts47 never answered my question about state's rights, so I can only assume that he's put me back on ignore. Does this mean that I win the debate twice?

Nothing really interesting to say

Then why are you still talking?

How Euphoric.

Euphoria implies happiness.

I have no clue

Don't worry, we can tell.