🌟 Internet Famous The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

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BlueCandle powiedział(a):
You’re not going to believe this, but there is a reason. They came into power over adults because during the Stone Age they were the only ones who could defeat the dinosaurs via hiding in holes and waiting until the dinos poked their heads through and then beating their skulls in.
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In all honesty, this is the dumb shit that GA needs more of. Embrace the stupid and go along with it. The entire thing takes itself too seriously which is what makes for so many awkward implications
 
Dr.Pingas powiedział(a):
In all honesty, this is the dumb shit that GA needs more of. Embrace the stupid and go along with it. The entire thing takes itself too seriously which is what makes for so many awkward implications
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A stupid premise can work if it isn't taken seriously at all and this is where GA fails. Let's look at Spongebob Squarepants, for instance, and go over a few implications.

What is the premise of that show? That there is a fish society at the bottom of the sea, and that a sponge works as a frycook, pisses off his pseudo-intellectual squid neighbor by being a carefree kid with his best friend a sea star, and goes on wacky adventures. What makes things more bizarre is that humanity is outright confirmed to exist and even has limited interactions with Bikini Bottom, and some human objects take on magical properties in Bikini Bottom (in the Doodlebob episode, the magical giant pencil was a normal pencil in the hands of a human artist, and in the first movie, divers and David Hasselhoff both exist and interact with Spongebob.) Does this imply humanity is magical in the show? Or is Bikini Bottom itself magical or supernatural in some way? Is humanity aware of this? David Hasselhoff didn't seem surprised at all when he was interacting with Spongebob. Did he know in advance? Does humanity know? If they know, why aren't they intervening? Based on how Spongebob himself acts, how old is he? He acts like a kid one moment but has a stable job and owns a home at the same time. It makes no sense.

The reason all of this autism can happen is because the show itself doesn't care about being serious at all and can take this stuff and run with it, outright playing it for gags every now and then.

GA is taken way too seriously by Enter and thus cannot use the intrinsic absurd nature of the setting as its own defense like Spongebob can. Had the morals been dropped and Enter used the show as a vehicle for comedy alone, then none of the implications would at all be considered, unless it was a twisted black comedy show about a world run by children inevitably falling to shit, in which case every implication would be nothing more than another gag in the arsenal. Enter cannot have his cake and eat it too. Either the show needs established internal consistency and laws in order to allow for a framework to support a moral, or it must take its zaniness in stride and accept the craziness it needs to function as a functional world.
 
Another one bites the dust.
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It feels like Enter put his glasses on backwards when handling GA. It was seemingly supposed to be a satire of irl society through the lens of a character driven narrative, but instead it became a series of lore drops, poorly disguised fetishes, and a circlejerk of how many characters he can possibly shove in there, using the show's premise as a vehicle to fuel those.
 
LiquidKid powiedział(a):
Disney defaulted on the trademark over a decade ago, they couldn’t care less about the idea. Which might be the saddest part.

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When Disney, a company that built its multi-million dollar empire on ideas nobody thought would work (Steamboat Willie, Snow White, Fantasia, Disneyland, DuckTales, Roger Rabbit, Toy Story, Kingdom Hearts, MCU, etc.) has no faith in an idea to the point they don't even want to sit on the rights to it, that may be a sign you're wasting your time trying to """improve""" it.
 
coach_mclurk powiedział(a):
It feels like Enter put his glasses on backwards when handling GA. It was seemingly supposed to be a satire of irl society through the lens of a character driven narrative, but instead it became a series of lore drops, poorly disguised fetishes, and a circlejerk of how many characters he can possibly shove in there, using the show's premise as a vehicle to fuel those.
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Growing Around, to me, comes off as basically Enter trying to pidgeonhole his take on society at its most ideal - namely, he has such a simplistic understanding of how the world works that he honestly believes that things would be better if kids were allowed to rule everything and adults don't do jack shit.

The problem, amusingly, is that all Enter's really done is give all the adults instant alzheimer's the second you turn age 18 and you're shuttled off to essentially a retirement home for decades. Additionally, he's not put any thought into the replacement aspects of modern day society (let's just ignore how his explanation that kids have run the world since the dawn of mankind completely ignores socio-economic development given there isn't a chance in hell kids would have the patience to domesticate dogs or grow crops) - like how the currency is of trading cards. Trading cards of what? If all adults are basically shoved into psuedo-retirement "re-education" concentration camps, there are no sports stars, no factories built to produce the cards, and no distribution systems for the cards to make it into the mainstream.

Ultimately, the greatest irony of GA is that is just shows Enter doesn't understand what every single one-off episode with the 'reversed age roles' gimmick details: child first society can not work.

I've brought up KND before when it comes to GA, but that's because it's probably the closest to having kids operate a society independently of any adult (or even teenager given at most they have a select few teenagers continue working for the KND as double agents), and despite the crazy infrastructure like elaborate bases in the arctic built out of scrap and the fact they've achieved reusable spacecraft to get to and from their moonbase (complete with earth gravity), the show makes absolutely no attempt to hide the fact none of this can exist without piggybacking on existing "normal" adult-led society (which is just as, if not even more, insane) like the one episode where Numbah 2 encounters a rival aviator kid - even though he's the resident KND mechanic who can fabricate wild-ass machines out of literally junk and spit, he still goes to the model shop and pays the ADULT shopkeeper money to buy model kits and plane parts .

On top of all THAT, Enter's problem is that he sees adulthood through the lens of a child, even though he is an adult himself. I don't think he's able to understand that even as adults, we as people are still children and less mature than the generation before us. If you aged every single character up in GA so the kids are young adults in their 20s (and the adults are all elderly), then you simultaneously get the dynamic Enter is trying for and you DON'T get it because the kids themselves are adults even if they act the same way more or less.
 
Master Shake powiedział(a):
When Disney, a company that built its multi-million dollar empire on ideas nobody thought would work (Steamboat Willie, Snow White, Fantasia, Disneyland, DuckTales, Roger Rabbit, Toy Story, Kingdom Hearts, MCU, etc.) has no faith in an idea to the point they don't even want to sit on the rights to it, that may be a sign you're wasting your time trying to """improve""" it.
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Not even being interested in patent trolling(or paying the minor fee to renew) is the creative equivalent of calling the project trash
 
Optimus Prime powiedział(a):
The problem, amusingly, is that all Enter's really done is give all the adults instant alzheimer's the second you turn age 18 and you're shuttled off to essentially a retirement home for decades. Additionally, he's not put any thought into the replacement aspects of modern day society (let's just ignore how his explanation that kids have run the world since the dawn of mankind completely ignores socio-economic development given there isn't a chance in hell kids would have the patience to domesticate dogs or grow crops) - like how the currency is of trading cards. Trading cards of what? If all adults are basically shoved into psuedo-retirement "re-education" concentration camps, there are no sports stars, no factories built to produce the cards, and no distribution systems for the cards to make it into the mainstream.
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They're basically Pokemon cards, the sort with a game to go along with them. He doesn't seem to get how trading cards actually work. Things just cost a set number of cards, and it doesn't matter which cards they are. Fifty holographic Charizard cards have the same value as fifty lightning energy cards in this world. He doesn't have to make an entire series of cards and specify how much each is worth, but it would make more sense if there were "common" cards that are the equivalent of pennies and rare cards that are like hundred dollar bills. It's a minor problem, but it's another thing that shows his lack of understanding of how children actually are, since no kid's going to trade you a bike in exchange for a bunch of energy cards.
 
Piga Dgrifm powiedział(a):
They're basically Pokemon cards, the sort with a game to go along with them. He doesn't seem to get how trading cards actually work. Things just cost a set number of cards, and it doesn't matter which cards they are. Fifty holographic Charizard cards have the same value as fifty lightning energy cards in this world. He doesn't have to make an entire series of cards and specify how much each is worth, but it would make more sense if there were "common" cards that are the equivalent of pennies and rare cards that are like hundred dollar bills. It's a minor problem, but it's another thing that shows his lack of understanding of how children actually are, since no kid's going to trade you a bike in exchange for a bunch of energy cards.
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Even then why would kids even want to pay for anything, kids prefer getting shit for free.
 
OverTheEdge powiedział(a):
"This video has been removed by the uploader"

He must've gotten blasted real hard for this one.
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Speaking of, did anyone download the video before he took it down? It must've been some very stupid garbage (even more stupid than the other corona videos) if Enter decided that it needed to be erased off of the face of the earth.

If no one did download it, then I'm just as disappointed at you guys as I am at myself for not doing the same.
 
Mr. Giggles powiedział(a):
Speaking of, did anyone download the video before he took it down? It must've been some very stupid garbage (even more stupid than the other corona videos) if Enter decided that it needed to be erased off of the face of the earth.

If no one did download it, then I'm just as disappointed at you guys as I am at myself for not doing the same.
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Unfortunately he yanked this one so fast I don't think anyone got the chance to download it.

Enter powiedział(a):
So, I've been uh... spending the past couple of days doing this. I've gathered up a bunch of data - population, population density, and lockdown information - when each state locked down, how strict everything was, etc. This video is doing the incredibly simple task of matching up the dates each state went on lock down, with their rates of Covid infection, keeping in mind the incubation period which has a median of 5 days and about once in a thousand cases can be up to 14 days

Tl;dw - a state's lock down had no consistent pattern on the rate of new covid infections, even when correcting for variables such as lockdown dates and lockdown strictness. States in similar regions with the exact same or nearly same lockdown restrictions would have vastly different trend lines. In the thumbnail you can see "protesting is not an essential" activity North Carolina, which locked down on about March 26th and cases have been trending upwards ever since.

Some states trend upwards, downwards, some even stay relatively flat. It's quite fascinating for all of the wrong reasons.
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Basically, he thinks that since there are cases of Coronavirus after lockdowns began, this means they don't actually do anything.
 
Piga Dgrifm powiedział(a):
They're basically Pokemon cards, the sort with a game to go along with them. He doesn't seem to get how trading cards actually work. Things just cost a set number of cards, and it doesn't matter which cards they are. Fifty holographic Charizard cards have the same value as fifty lightning energy cards in this world. He doesn't have to make an entire series of cards and specify how much each is worth, but it would make more sense if there were "common" cards that are the equivalent of pennies and rare cards that are like hundred dollar bills. It's a minor problem, but it's another thing that shows his lack of understanding of how children actually are, since no kid's going to trade you a bike in exchange for a bunch of energy cards.
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This is the same man who criticized a SpongeBob episode for “not knowing how trading cards work”.
 
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Piga Dgrifm powiedział(a):
They're basically Pokemon cards, the sort with a game to go along with them. He doesn't seem to get how trading cards actually work. Things just cost a set number of cards, and it doesn't matter which cards they are. Fifty holographic Charizard cards have the same value as fifty lightning energy cards in this world. He doesn't have to make an entire series of cards and specify how much each is worth, but it would make more sense if there were "common" cards that are the equivalent of pennies and rare cards that are like hundred dollar bills. It's a minor problem, but it's another thing that shows his lack of understanding of how children actually are, since no kid's going to trade you a bike in exchange for a bunch of energy cards.
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Remember when Enter was gonna give out trading cards based on this shit? Dude really needs to get out of his little autistic bubble.
 
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