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2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.
The US has to go through a period of realignment from the globalist Washington consensus that had previously dominated politics, and it's still an incomplete process at this point in 2020:
- The Democrats need to spend more time in the wild to understand that their current platform & embrace of IDPol tactics (like with Kavanaugh) is a losing strategy.
- The Clinton-Obama-Bush-Romney wings need to be thoroughly scrubbed out of politics.
- The Judiciary Circuits need to be rebalanced to reduce the amount of legislation from the bench (aka the Federal-Judge-tosses-out-Trump-policy-due-to-some-vague-reasoning situations).
- The Supreme Court must be secured.
- The bureaucracy & alphabet agencies need to be deep-cleaned. It's not a process that will be completed (or even started) by Trump, but a second term puts them on notice.
- Voter ID has to be looked at- or at the very minimum, elements like ballot harvesting and social media moderation must be dealt with.
- Illegal immigration must be dealt with- even a reduction of the numbers on the borders & reform of the process would be a massive improvement.
- Yellow journalism needs to lose some more credibility.
- And most importantly, China needs to be dealt with, as the last year has shown. This is crucial- their government de facto treats the US as an enemy target, and decoupling must be continued over the next term.
I have little faith that a Biden (really a DNC/corporate-appointed) Democratic government would be willing to deal with these issues, as they benefit from the current arrangement (as Hunter Biden's positions with China show).
Like what you've said, they'd treat it like waking from a bad dream- to return to a previous status quo that's actively detrimental to the United States.
I agree China is my #1 concern and I fucking hate that opposition to enemies of the US is now a partisan thing, i.e. dems freak out pretty much only at Russia and Republicans freak out pretty much only at China. Both are bad and both should be combated though I think China is more of a threat.
Russia has fallen flat on its face when it comes to their imperialist ambitions,they got too cocky after Ossetia and thought they could get away with Ukraine in 2014, but luck wasn’t on their side. Twice as many Russian mercs have died in Ukraine than Ukrainian soldiers and they made absolutely 0 territorial gains since Crimea. After this stumble by the Russians I don't see an invasion of a NATO country like Poland happening any time soon. Also they’re pretty fucked by sanctions and are borderline pariahs in the international community for a variety of reasons.
meanwhile China is continuing its economic and often militarist imperialism virtually unopposed throughout S.E. Asia and is gaining influence throughout the rest of world using the belt-and-road strategy in places like India and Africa. They hold enormous sway over international institutions like the WHO which also sucks. But perhaps most significantly, China ramped shit up a few years ago when a glow-in-the-dark spy ring that infiltrated the CCP was uncovered and Xi had them all executed. The US claimed that they only killed 18 CIA operatives but China claims they killed 80, which is fucking insane and I think is tantamount to a soft war declaration.
I was much more willing to vote for biden before I heard about his business dealings with China. I was actually kind of impressed by his criticisms of Chinese expansionism during some of the debates but now that I have a clearer picture of where he stands I don’t think I can vote for him. I'm not voting for Trump either, but it's not like my vote even matters because I'm not in a swing state lol
I agree China is my #1 concern and I fucking hate that opposition to enemies of the US is now a partisan thing, I.e. dems freak out pretty much only at Russia and Republicans freak out pretty much only at China. Both are bad and both should be combatted though I think China is more of a threat.
Russia has fallen flat on its face when it comes to their imperialist ambitions,they got too cocky after Ossetia and thought they could get away with Ukraine in 2014, but luck wasn’t on their side. Twice as many Russian mercs have died in Ukraine than Ukrainian soldiers and they made absolutely 0 territorial gains since Crimea. Also they’re pretty fucked by sanctions and are borderline pariahs in the international community
meanwhile China is continuing its economic and often militarist imperialism throughout south east Asia and is gaining influence throughout the world in places like India and Africa.
I think preservation of liberal democracy and its freedoms is the only way humanity can continue to prosper
also I was much more willing to vote for biden before I heard about his business dealings with China. I was actually kind of impressed by his criticisms of Chinese expansionism during some of the debates but now that I have a clearer picture of where he stands I don’t think I can vote for him
Russia is a joke of a country that has a third of the economic strength of Italy. It’s barely relevant anymore past the invasion of Ukraine, which does put US allies like Poland in danger, but can be responded to with new treaties with the Eastern Bloc rather than a vestigial organization meant to fight against an actual military power. I think we can at least get along with Russia on somethings rather than completely antagonizing them or flat out sucking their dicks. However, Sinae delenda est. China is basically the new USSR and dumb boomer politicians and their even dumber liberal slaves don’t see the obvious as fuck truth.
Given the choice between a patriotic idiot and a demented criminal I think I want the patriotic idiot. All that Hillary junk was old news but a lot of people only know about Biden as VP and they have no idea that he's spent his entire life snorting every drug he can find and passed those bad genes along to his sons, one of whom is a career criminal. Sad!
Russia is a joke of a country that has a third of the economic strength of Italy. It’s barely relevant anymore past the invasion of Ukraine, which does put US allies like Poland in danger, but can be responded to with new treaties with the Eastern Bloc rather than a vestigial organization meant to fight against an actual military power. I think we can at least get along with Russia on somethings rather than completely antagonizing them or flat out sucking their dicks. However, Sinae delenda est. China is basically the new USSR and dumb boomer politicians and their even dumber liberal slaves don’t see the obvious as fuck truth.
Russia's strength lies in its military strength and the FSB which is one of the most advanced and effective intelligence agencies in the world. I agree that we should work with Russia when we can but many of our interests are in direct opposition to one another.
But yes, I wholeheartedly agree that China is still the #1 geopolitical foe, no doubt about it, they're the only serious superpower right now other than the US.
The US has to go through a period of realignment from the globalist Washington consensus that had previously dominated politics, and it's still an incomplete process at this point in 2020:
- The Democrats need to spend more time in the wild to understand that their current platform & embrace of IDPol tactics (like with Kavanaugh) is a losing strategy.
- The Clinton-Obama-Bush-Romney wings need to be thoroughly scrubbed out of politics.
- The Judiciary Circuits need to be rebalanced to reduce the amount of legislation from the bench (aka the Federal-Judge-tosses-out-Trump-policy-due-to-some-vague-reasoning situations).
- The Supreme Court must be secured.
- The bureaucracy & alphabet agencies need to be deep-cleaned. It's not a process that will be completed (or even started) by Trump, but a second term puts them on notice.
- Voter ID has to be looked at- or at the very minimum, elements like ballot harvesting and social media moderation must be dealt with.
- Illegal immigration must be dealt with- even a reduction of the numbers on the borders & reform of the process would be a massive improvement.
- Yellow journalism needs to lose some more credibility.
- And most importantly, China needs to be dealt with, as the last year has shown. This is crucial- their government de facto treats the US as an enemy target, and decoupling must be continued over the next term.
I have little faith that a Biden (really a DNC/corporate-appointed) Democratic government would be willing to deal with these issues, as they benefit from the current arrangement (as Hunter Biden's positions with China show).
Like what you've said, they'd treat it like waking from a bad dream- to return to a previous status quo that's actively detrimental to the United States.
I suppose a chunk of this is true, especially China. I'm really not ok with a fascist state that has concentration camps for minorities being a major economic power. Feels like if Nazi Germany were as powerful as China is today, America would shrug at the holocaust because they would lose cheap goods. Still, I have no faith in Trump necessarily to tackle some of these issues. That being said, if I do vote Trump, it wouldn't be a vote for Trump per se, but a vote against the modern left, which does need to die off.
Eh, I think the Core Zoomers will probably be centrist or center-liberal or largely apolitical like Generation X was before them.
They may vote for Trump in 2020 to kick out the wokesters, but the one generation that I think really could swing hard to the right as a generational trend would be the Alpha Generation kids and possibly the Late Zoomers, both of which are still school-age kids and not able to vote yet.
I think the Millennials trended so far to the left for a variety of reasons, one of the biggest being that the Religious Right and the Neocons were at their height of influence and power when they were kids.
Keep in mind that Generation Alpha and the youngest of the Zoomers are at the same age during the peak of the SJW Left that the Millennials and the oldest of Zoomers were at when the old Religious Right was at its peak
Honestly the political leanings of high-schoolers, even college students to a large degree, will be framed by the reaction to Coronavirus.
The Milennials didn't just become left-wing due to the counter-culture against repressive religious types, it was the Depression. Imagine finishing college in 2009 and being totally unable to find work. Any work you eventually find is not in the field you studied in, or had a number of flaws with it you would rather do without. Regardless of if it sounds petty or not, the economy of 2009-2014 is a world away from the economy you grew up with and everyone around you anticipated. People in 2006-7 thought the economy would just grow like that forever. Builders I knew were bullshitting themselves and each other into thinking people would take half-million mortgages out on houses that weren't even worth half that.
So depending on how Coronavirus is tackled, it'll really frame the next 50 years of political consciousness going forward. If its protracted stagnation like last decade, you'll see a surge to the left. Whatever this ideology is clearly isn't working for people. When big businesses get a bailout every 12 years on the taxpayers expense but the public don't? That's corporate socialism. The Zoomers are right to demand the same treatment.
If Trump fenagles a way into making Big Line go in a V-shape, and come summer 2021 we're back to summer 2019 levels? Expect the Zoomers to be content enough and vote right (though they'll be swayed by moderate enough democrats). There'll also be an appreciation for the power of the state in a way that Boomers just don't seem to have. After this I don't expect anyone under 35 clamouring for more tax cuts, considering any country spending its way out of a crisis is gonna balloon its national debt, but altogether it'll prove the existing power structures can deal with wrecking balls, and that the public don't need to experiment with DSA proposals.
This post was longer than intended, but I've never looked at this thread before, and ya know, I have autism, probably.
Not a hot take, probably has been said here before, but I wanna emphasize this at the top. Sanders lost because he's a pussy who hired a bunch of bourgeois white and Jewish Brooklyn DSA faggots to run his campaign. They convinced him to abandon his previous Marxist-based, class-based rhetoric. So they got him to adopt their positions on guns, open borders, and other anti-white idpol shit because they were sick of The New Yorker calling them racist. It was too embarrassing for them to handle in front of their token black friend that's the CEO of a billion dollar corporation.
He lost rural voters (white voters) in Iowa to a homosexual neoliberal and lost the rest in other states to a guy with dementia lmao.
Ultimately, Sanders is 100% responsible for losing. How many times did he say, "My dear friend, Joe Biden?"
Trump getting reelected in 2020 would be a harsh reality check for the Democrats and it could cause another realignment or reassessment of the party's platform. It has happened before with the Reagan and Clinton years.
Carter's loss to Reagan in 1980 was written off by the DNC as acceptable because of the Iranian Revolution and the subsequent hostage crisis and the economy being in the shitter during most of the 70's.
But then came the massive Democratic losses in 1984 and 1988, the former of which was the biggest presidential landslide in American history. It became clear that Reagan's wins were not a fluke at that point, and Bush Sr. was really just a third term of Reagan by proxy.
So in 1992, the Democrats reformulated their platform and their strategy with Bill Clinton and it paid off for them.
It could possibly be a reality check for Democrats, but it's not inevitable. The 2013 RNC Election Report Autopsy that supposedly "analyzed" why McCain lost in 2012 was almost entirely premised in the idea that the GOP is too white and that they needed to focus their efforts on abandoning the issues they've pretended to care about (religious liberty, illegal aliens, etc.) in order to attract every minority group under the sun. https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ad-in-the-rnc-election-autopsy-report/274112/ (https://archive.li/O5vyA)
It's not a new idea. The GOP has wanted to go in that direction forever. Muh Latinos are natural conservatives meme. The report is bullshit, but it's very honest about demographic change. Many supposedly based GOP politicians today wouldn't put the demographic situation so starkly.
In 1980, exit polls tell us that the electorate was 88 percent white. In 2012, it was 72 percent white. Hispanics made up 7 percent of the electorate in 2000, 8 percent in 2004, 9 percent in 2008 and 10 percent in 2012. According to the Pew Hispanic Center, in 2050, whites will be 47 percent of the country while Hispanics will grow to 29 percent and Asians to 9 percent. If we want ethnic minority voters to support Republicans, we have to engage them and show our sincerity.
Blacks will never vote GOP. Trump might perform a few points higher than a normal GOP presidential nominee. What's funny is that the autopsy spiritually says that blacks should read Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations and Thomas Sowell books. That's never gonna work. What could potentially work? Letting them out of prison early and sending them $1,200 stimulus checks, which he's done. I'm sure he's picked up more black votes from those alone than any prior multimillion dollar GOP outreach effort to get blacks to support their shitty economic platform.
Now obviously Trump chose a different strategy. He ran as a populist on a few key issues that resonated with the white working class (WWC). They're concentrated in the Rust Belt, in many states that haven't voted for a GOP presidential candidate in a long time. It also helped Trump that Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal and her husband signed NAFTA, which gutted the Rust Belt.
If Biden wins every state that Hillary did, and he picks up Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, then he'll win the election 273 to Trump's 258 electoral votes. Those states traditionally vote Democratic for president. Biden is much more likable than Hillary in those states. No one knows how it will turn out, though.
Both Reagan's and Bill Clinton's wins were short-term victories.
Reagan signed the Simpson–Mazzoli Act which gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, mostly Latinos, even though it was intentionally misrepresented to the public as something that was gonna be small in scope. In exchange, the GOP got border security measures. Most of them were never implemented because neither party is serious about deporting illegal aliens. GOP donors like having an underclass of workers that undercut American wages. Dems want more non-whites because they vote as a block for their party.
Initially, Bill appealed to the WWC. When he signed NAFTA in 1994, most of its effects weren't immediate.
The harm it did to the Clinton family would come back to haunt them in the 2008 Dem primaries. Obama annihilated Hillary on free trade and NAFTA in the debates. That allowed Obama to win a few states in the Rust Belt and Midwest. He won the South because he's black. He was also more charismatic and had that Hollywood movie cool black guy vibe, but that's not relevant here.
Obama didn't abide by his political promises, especially on trade. That in conjunction with the Dems blowing their load too early on muh Coalition of the Ascendant and Trump running as populist led to Hillary losing in 2016.
But the writing is on the wall. Trump and the GOP aren't going to do anything on illegal or legal immigration. If he gets a second term, he'll probably push for an amnesty bill. While Democrats suffered in 2016, even if they lose in 2020, they can retain their all of their policy ideas and eventually they're gonna win because the demographics will be there for them to win.
The GOP won't go away. They'll tweak some policies to be competitive. They'll give up on blacks, they're only 13% of the population, many can't legally vote, they're birth rates are either stable or slightly below replacement. They'll target Southeast Asian immigrants, namely Indians and probably find success with them, especially with US HR races.
Texas is gonna go Dem within the next few presidential elections because of its growing Latino population. Arizona too. Theoretically they could turn a few Rust Belt/Midwestern states reliably GOP because of favorable white demographics.
But the GOP is incompetent, so they won't. They have shitty economic policies that don't appeal to the WWC. It's more complicated with suburban college educated whites. The GOP ones that didn't vote Trump did so because they didn't like his unconventional views on the economy. The Dem ones are mostly receptive to the GOP's economic message (excluding like welfare, mostly) because free trade/etc benefits them. But they won't vote GOP because they're socially liberal, so the GOP is gonna have to become the Gay Old Party. That's not farfetched because with muh based drag queen Lady MAGA, muh based MAGA homosexual Scott Presler, etc. they're already there.
The best way to deal with the left is to let it destroy itself. The revolution always eats its own. And that's what's happening now, slowly but surely. Out of all the weeks to say he hasn't fought the left you pick this one?
Have you seen how Bernie Bros are turning on Bernie for bending the knee? How the Bernie threw his former press secretary under the bus? How Bernie attacked his supporters by saying not voting for Biden is irresponsible? How the neolibs are trying to shame the progressives into 'Vote Blue No Matter Who?'
There will be a civil war in the Democratic Party once Trump wins again. And it will happen because he stood tall against the onslaught.
Dude, I don't know what more you could ever expect from the man.
I've got a pretty good view of the far-left and far-right. Both groups are constantly engaged in massive in-fighting. Say what you will about Bernie Bros, but at least they turned on him after they discovered he was a bullshit politician. The AmNat crowd (like Nick Fuentes) have had 4 years of Trump not fulfilling his campaign promises, except all of the ones pertaining to Israel. They still suck Trump's dick.
Regardless if Trump wins in 2020, it doesn't matter. After he leaves office, the GOP is going to go back to business as usual. They've already successfully neutered Trump. His administration is full of people that hate him, neocons, etc.
- The Democrats need to spend more time in the wild to understand that their current platform & embrace of IDPol tactics (like with Kavanaugh) is a losing strategy.
- Illegal immigration must be dealt with- even a reduction of the numbers on the borders & reform of the process would be a massive improvement.
- And most importantly, China needs to be dealt with, as the last year has shown. This is crucial- their government de facto treats the US as an enemy target, and decoupling must be continued over the next term.
Idpol work. A big reason why Trump won was by embracing them, dog whistling, etc. They'll work better for Dems when the demographics shift more in their favor. The GOP isn't gonna do anything meaningful on immigration and China. They're a big reason why those issues exist in the first place.
I suppose a chunk of this is true, especially China. I'm really not ok with a fascist state that has concentration camps for minorities being a major economic power. Feels like if Nazi Germany were as powerful as China is today, America would shrug at the holocaust because they would lose cheap goods. Still, I have no faith in Trump necessarily to tackle some of these issues. That being said, if I do vote Trump, it wouldn't be a vote for Trump per se, but a vote against the modern left, which does need to die off.
> The Chinese are "fascists."
> Muh Uyghur "concentration camps."
> Germany under the NSDAP wasn't as powerful or more so than modern China.
> Implying the "Holocaust" had anything to do with WWII or the Allied invasion.
> Implying Americans liked Jews despite all historical opinion polls and policies from that time.
Exactly why do you think WWII happened?
I do agree with your lack of faith in Trump or the GOP to tackle the Chinese Question. They're just using it right now to distract from their failure to contain the virus despite having ample time to do so. It's red meat. The GOP loves jacking off about the free market and maximizing profits for corporations by outsourcing all manufacturing to China because Americans aren't willing to send their 5 year olds to work in a dangerous factory for pennies an hour. That's not gonna change.
The GOP is Lucy. MAGA retards are Charlie Brown. The football is anti-Chinese racism. After the election, they'll pull the football. They do it all the time. See: 9/11 and Muslims. They've already started backtracking by saying "It's not the Chinese people, but the Chinese government." That's a distinction without a difference. They'll start saying the Chinese are natural conservatives or some shit.
Given the ample evidence, I think most people (irrespective of their views on China vs Hong Kong) are willing to agree that the Hong Kong protests were at some capacity a gay op between US intelligence agencies and some genuine Hong Kong activists.
I won't get into the hard evidence because this post is already too long, but the entire thing was designed to appeal to the GOP's base, though elements obviously appealed to Dems, as well, but the president is GOP. Hongkongers using things like Pepe, muh Second Amendment, muh US Constitution, American flags, etc. in protest posters is too unnatural for them. Videos of them singing "The Star-Spangled Banner" was just icing on the gay op cake that they forced a bigot to bake.
The official pretext for the protests is that some Hongkonger went to Taiwan with his prego gf. He murdered her in a hotel, stole her shit, and smuggled her body out of the hotel with a suitcase, dumped her in some bushes, and went back to Hong Kong. He admitted to it. They have hotel CCTV footage of them entering the hotel and only him leaving with a suitcase. HK could only charge him with money laundering and not murder. Taiwan doesn't have an extradition treat with HK, so they proposed an extradition treaty which would have also given China extradition powers. Thus, the protests.
Hell, the killer even tried to appeal to the incel and MGTOW crowd by saying saying she told him the baby was her ex-boyfriends and that she showed him a video of her fucking another man and he just flipped lmao.
Anyway, my point is that the only retaliation the GOP is gonna levy against China is whatever shit they can do to slant them via Hong Kong. Which isn't going to do shit for Americans.
Personally, I don't care about either country because I don't live there. I care that politicians allowed corporations to outsource manufacturing to China and fucked up the response to COVID-19.
The 2013 RNC Election Report Autopsy that supposedly "analyzed" why McCain lost in 2012 was almost entirely premised in the idea that the GOP is too white and that they needed to focus their efforts on abandoning the issues they've pretended to care about (religious liberty, illegal aliens, etc.) in order to attract every minority group under the sun.
I am gonna straight out call bullshit on this one.
McCain lost because he was always a second string cuck who rode the coattails of his military service into the Senate and stayed there forever. He was a jobber, The GOP knew Hillary was going to run so they put up someone who they didn't care if he lost. McCain Running is when my young self realized that we don't have two parties..we had one and the entirety of Politics was as rigged as the WWE.
This post was longer than intended, but I've never looked at this thread before, and ya know, I have autism, probably.
Not a hot take, probably has been said here before, but I wanna emphasize this at the top. Sanders lost because he's a pussy who hired a bunch of bourgeois white and Trump's Chosen Brooklyn DSA faggots to run his campaign. They convinced him to abandon his previous Marxist-based, class-based rhetoric. So they got him to adopt their positions on guns, open borders, and other anti-white idpol shit because they were sick of The New Yorker calling them racist. It was too embarrassing for them to handle in front of their token black friend that's the CEO of a billion dollar corporation.
He lost rural voters (white voters) in Iowa to a homosexual neoliberal and lost the rest in other states to a guy with dementia lmao.
Ultimately, Sanders is 100% responsible for losing. How many times did he say, "My dear friend, Joe Biden?"
It could possibly be a reality check for Democrats, but it's not inevitable. The 2013 RNC Election Report Autopsy that supposedly "analyzed" why McCain lost in 2012 was almost entirely premised in the idea that the GOP is too white and that they needed to focus their efforts on abandoning the issues they've pretended to care about (religious liberty, illegal aliens, etc.) in order to attract every minority group under the sun. https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ad-in-the-rnc-election-autopsy-report/274112/ (https://archive.li/O5vyA)
It's not a new idea. The GOP has wanted to go in that direction forever. Muh Latinos are natural conservatives meme. The report is bullshit, but it's very honest about demographic change. Many supposedly based GOP politicians today wouldn't put the demographic situation so starkly.
Blacks will never vote GOP. Trump might perform a few points higher than a normal GOP presidential nominee. What's funny is that the autopsy spiritually says that blacks should read Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations and Thomas Sowell books. That's never gonna work. What could potentially work? Letting them out of prison early and sending them $1,200 stimulus checks, which he's done. I'm sure he's picked up more black votes from those alone than any prior multimillion dollar GOP outreach effort to get blacks to support their shitty economic platform.
Now obviously Trump chose a different strategy. He ran as a populist on a few key issues that resonated with the white working class (WWC). They're concentrated in the Rust Belt, in many states that haven't voted for a GOP presidential candidate in a long time. It also helped Trump that Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal and her husband signed NAFTA, which gutted the Rust Belt.
If Biden wins every state that Hillary did, and he picks up Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, then he'll win the election 273 to Trump's 258 electoral votes. Those states traditionally vote Democratic for president. Biden is much more likable than Hillary in those states. No one knows how it will turn out, though.
Both Reagan's and Bill Clinton's wins were short-term victories.
Reagan signed the Simpson–Mazzoli Act which gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, mostly Latinos, even though it was intentionally misrepresented to the public as something that was gonna be small in scope. In exchange, the GOP got border security measures. Most of them were never implemented because neither party is serious about deporting illegal aliens. GOP donors like having an underclass of workers that undercut American wages. Dems want more non-whites because they vote as a block for their party.
Initially, Bill appealed to the WWC. When he signed NAFTA in 1994, most of its effects weren't immediate.
The harm it did to the Clinton family would come back to haunt them in the 2008 Dem primaries. Obama annihilated Hillary on free trade and NAFTA in the debates. That allowed Obama to win a few states in the Rust Belt and Midwest. He won the South because he's black. He was also more charismatic and had that Hollywood movie cool black guy vibe, but that's not relevant here.
Obama didn't abide by his political promises, especially on trade. That in conjunction with the Dems blowing their load too early on muh Coalition of the Ascendant and Trump running as populist led to Hillary losing in 2016.
But the writing is on the wall. Trump and the GOP aren't going to do anything on illegal or legal immigration. If he gets a second term, he'll probably push for an amnesty bill. While Democrats suffered in 2016, even if they lose in 2020, they can retain their all of their policy ideas and eventually they're gonna win because the demographics will be there for them to win.
The GOP won't go away. They'll tweak some policies to be competitive. They'll give up on blacks, they're only 13% of the population, many can't legally vote, they're birth rates are either stable or slightly below replacement. They'll target Southeast Asian immigrants, namely Indians and probably find success with them, especially with US HR races.
Texas is gonna go Dem within the next few presidential elections because of its growing Latino population. Arizona too. Theoretically they could turn a few Rust Belt/Midwestern states reliably GOP because of favorable white demographics.
But the GOP is incompetent, so they won't. They have shitty economic policies that don't appeal to the WWC. It's more complicated with suburban college educated whites. The GOP ones that didn't vote Trump did so because they didn't like his unconventional views on the economy. The Dem ones are mostly receptive to the GOP's economic message (excluding like welfare, mostly) because free trade/etc benefits them. But they won't vote GOP because they're socially liberal, so the GOP is gonna have to become the Gay Old Party. That's not farfetched because with muh based drag queen Lady MAGA, muh based MAGA homosexual Scott Presler, etc. they're already there.
Trump's Twitter account is the only redeeming quality of his presidency.
I've got a pretty good view of the far-left and far-right. Both groups are constantly engaged in massive in-fighting. Say what you will about Bernie Bros, but at least they turned on him after they discovered he was a bullshit politician. The AmNat crowd (like Nick Fuentes) have had 4 years of Trump not fulfilling his campaign promises, except all of the ones pertaining to Israel. They still suck Trump's dick.
Regardless if Trump wins in 2020, it doesn't matter. After he leaves office, the GOP is going to go back to business as usual. They've already successfully neutered Trump. His administration is full of people that hate him, neocons, etc.
Idpol work. A big reason why Trump won was by embracing them, dog whistling, etc. They'll work better for Dems when the demographics shift more in their favor. The GOP isn't gonna do anything meaningful on immigration and China. They're a big reason why those issues exist in the first place.
> The Chinese are "fascists."
> Muh Uyghur "concentration camps."
> Germany under the NSDAP wasn't as powerful or more so than modern China.
> Implying the "Holocaust" had anything to do with WWII or the Allied invasion.
> Implying Americans liked Trump's Chosen People despite all historical opinion polls and policies from that time.
Exactly why do you think WWII happened?
I do agree with your lack of faith in Trump or the GOP to tackle the Chinese Question. They're just using it right now to distract from their failure to contain the virus despite having ample time to do so. It's red meat. The GOP loves jacking off about the free market and maximizing profits for corporations by outsourcing all manufacturing to China because Americans aren't willing to send their 5 year olds to work in a dangerous factory for pennies an hour. That's not gonna change.
The GOP is Lucy. MAGA exceptional individuals are Charlie Brown. The football is anti-Chinese racism. After the election, they'll pull the football. They do it all the time. See: 9/11 and Muslims. They've already started backtracking by saying "It's not the Chinese people, but the Chinese government." That's a distinction without a difference. They'll start saying the Chinese are natural conservatives or some shit.
Given the ample evidence, I think most people (irrespective of their views on China vs Hong Kong) are willing to agree that the Hong Kong protests were at some capacity a gay op between US intelligence agencies and some genuine Hong Kong activists.
I won't get into the hard evidence because this post is already too long, but the entire thing was designed to appeal to the GOP's base, though elements obviously appealed to Dems, as well, but the president is GOP. Hongkongers using things like Pepe, muh Second Amendment, muh US Constitution, American flags, etc. in protest posters is too unnatural for them. Videos of them singing "The Star-Spangled Banner" was just icing on the gay op cake that they forced a bigot to bake.
The official pretext for the protests is that some Hongkonger went to Taiwan with his prego gf. He murdered her in a hotel, stole her shit, and smuggled her body out of the hotel with a suitcase, dumped her in some bushes, and went back to Hong Kong. He admitted to it. They have hotel CCTV footage of them entering the hotel and only him leaving with a suitcase. HK could only charge him with money laundering and not murder. Taiwan doesn't have an extradition treat with HK, so they proposed an extradition treaty which would have also given China extradition powers. Thus, the protests.
Hell, the killer even tried to appeal to the incel and MGTOW crowd by saying saying she told him the baby was her ex-boyfriends and that she showed him a video of her fucking another man and he just flipped lmao.
Anyway, my point is that the only retaliation the GOP is gonna levy against China is whatever shit they can do to slant them via Hong Kong. Which isn't going to do shit for Americans.
Personally, I don't care about either country because I don't live there. I care that politicians allowed corporations to outsource manufacturing to China and fucked up the response to COVID-19.
"They've already started backtracking by saying "It's not the American people, but the American government." That's a distinction without a difference."
Peoples are not the same as their governments. I have no idea where you even got that from.
Realistically Trump will get at least 10 percent of the black vote. 20 percent is a possibile miracle that could be compared to Boris Johnson winning last year in places that were strong hard left. Anything higher than that is a pipe dream.
What I am seeing here is basically democrats wanting to keep the black vote and blacks voting democrat out of tradition really. Is there any other good reason that could be used to keep or increase black turnout other than idpol like Obama loves me or pipe dream bullshit like reparations.
The GOP has nothing to lose at this point trying to win some appeal compared to democrats instantly going full Jim crow to keep the plantation in line.
"They've already started backtracking by saying "It's not the American people, but the American government." That's a distinction without a difference."
Peoples are not the same as their governments. I have no idea where you even got that from.
We can disagree on that but it doesn't change the fact that for a month or two the GOP establishment and MAGA people were explicitly targeting Chinese people via bat memes and all the other disgusting shit they eat.
I should also add that a reason for backtracking is because even though Trump pretends to hate the media, he constantly seeks their approval and validation. It's not a tactic that will work. If someone criticizes the Israeli government, they are branded by the media as hating Israelis/Jews.
TBH, I can't recall if when Trump started backpedaling a few weeks ago if he said we shouldn't blame the "Chinese" specifically. I know he said something to similar effect for "Chinese-Americans" because it was when the news was reporting a bunch of stories of blacks attacking old Chinese-American women across the country.
What I am seeing here is basically democrats wanting to keep the black vote and blacks voting democrat out of tradition really. Is there any other good reason that could be used to keep or increase black turnout other than idpol like Obama loves me or pipe dream bullshit like reparations.
The GOP has nothing to lose at this point trying to win some appeal compared to democrats instantly going full Jim crow to keep the plantation in line.
We can disagree on that but it doesn't change the fact that for a month or two the GOP establishment and MAGA people were explicitly targeting Chinese people via bat memes and all the other disgusting shit they eat.
I should also add that a reason for backtracking is because even though Trump pretends to hate the media, he constantly seeks their approval and validation. It's not a tactic that will work. If someone criticizes the Israeli government, they are branded by the media as hating Israelis/Trump's Chosen People.
TBH, I can't recall if when Trump started backpedaling a few weeks ago if he said we shouldn't blame the "Chinese" specifically. I know he said something to similar effect for "Chinese-Americans" because it was when the news was reporting a bunch of stories of blacks attacking old Chinese-American women across the country.
It'd be funny if he didn't choose Pence for VP and chose like Kanye West or some black woman.
Did he back pedal or was he doing his usual trolling? He said China, the media and Democrats immediately defend China and call him racist. He replied with 'I said China, not Chinese people.'
And no, I am not saying it's 4d under water chess. It's basic levels of baiting, but the media is too rețarded to figure out what anyone under thirty can see coming a mile away.
