❄️ Snowflake shoe0nhead / June Lapine / June La Porta & Armoured Skeptic / Gregory "Greg" Fluhrer - A poor man's Boxxy: rejected by Vaush, disowned by /pol/ for burning coal, sleeps in a dog's bed surrounded by trash, and her ex-boyfriend.

[Doctor Placebo]

No one would have challenged this, but I'm kind of weirded out that this thread is now an echo chamber for right wingers to subtly inject bad takes.

The most powerful political figure in the world, who regularly says bombastic and inflammatory things on a public platform definitely does have control and influence over the people who support him. Every public figure has a level of responsibility for their audience, and I think your statement is disingenuous and comes from a place of political bias.

Trump hasn't been all that bombastic or inflammatory since the 2016 election, the press just spins everything he says in the absolute worst way they possibly can. And no, unless he directly employs them he doesn't have control over everything his supporters say and do because America isn't North Korea. Bernie doesn't have control over everything his supporters do either... unless he directly employs them. Then he does have a fair bit of control. Either way, aside from a minority of right wing pundits, Bernie definitely gets treated with kid gloves concerning being blamed for things his supporters do compared to Trump. Of course establishment Dems get treated even more nicely.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

No one would have challenged this, but I'm kind of weirded out that this thread is now an echo chamber for right wingers to subtly inject bad takes.

The most powerful political figure in the world, who regularly says bombastic and inflammatory things on a public platform definitely does have control and influence over the people who support him. Every public figure has a level of responsibility for their audience, and I think your statement is disingenuous and comes from a place of political bias.

If you're so concerned about this thread becoming infiltrated with right wingers, then place the blame where it belongs: On Shoe herself.

These days she considers people on the right to be all of the things that SJWs say that we are, and she attempts to befriend people who advocate for political violence against right-wingers (like ContraPoints). It has even been revealed that she's partaken in similar methods as Kraut & Tea, where she's tried to dox or "expose" conservatives in certain discords (and her manbaby "fiance" is guilty of it too). And on many occasions, she has said some flat-out lies about Steven Crowder (which is part of the reason why his name pops up on this thread every so often) and then never addresses her lies when they are exposed as such.

And if you take a good look at her Twitter these days, she more or less condones the political violence that Bernie supporters are increasingly becoming supportive of and acting on. The other day, she posted things like "Remember the violence that happened in Nevada in 2016, DNC?" A few months ago, she was completely denying that the violence was happening, and now she's threatening and basically cheering for it to happen.

tl;dr: If you don't want people to focus on her politics ... Then maybe you should tell Shoe herself to shut up about politics. It is beyond me that people want to be so political publically, and then get so butthurt when people disagree right back at them.

 

[Vivian]

June's admitted before that she doesn't want to debate anyone. Steven Crowder is quick on his feet, but even if he wasn't, June still wouldn't want to talk to him. I remember when she "moderated" for Blaire and Contrapoints. She looked like she wanted to die.

June's more honest about her limitations than Greg. His ego is unbelievable, and June only makes it worse with all her man stroking. He's only *a little smarter than her, in my opinion. They both don't have what it takes to actually win arguments.

I'd say that June is the smarter one, simply because she doesn't believe she's an intellectual mastermind and admits she's a brainlet. Skeptic's illusions of grandeur are absolutely ridiculous. If you constantly have to tell people that you're smart, you're probably not.

 

[Robert James]

I'm late, but fucking hell Greg. You want to rewrite the foundations of math and science because e=mc2 is stupid. Have you read up on feminism and their desire to decolonize math and make it less white? You're turning into what you pretended to hate, you disingenuous hack.

I thank all yall kiwis is da racist, fucks my nigs can't understand no math and einstein was a dick to his wife so we should totally rip his achievements out of our math books or we are no better than wife beaters. I mean you hit the head on the money he's following the current progressive trend that we need to decolonize math and science and even though Einstein was a jew that escaped concentration camps he is part of the old white establishment so he has to go.

Jesus, I thought my fucking hot takes on astrophysics were bad but Greg is on a whole other level, while the concepts behind E=mc2 has been improved and tweaked over the years it's one of the basis for our understanding of light. Also unlike other 20 page pure conjecture formulas you will see pop up nowadays einstein actually tested it he proved light could and will bend. Though it is fucking hilarious that the guy who made his name dunking on anti-vaxers/flat earthers/ and the science-denying creationist, thinks he's smart enough to take on the man that gave us the concepts of light bending and fission.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I'd say that June is the smarter one, simply because she doesn't believe she's an intellectual mastermind and admits she's a brainlet. Skeptic's illusions of grandeur are absolutely ridiculous. If you constantly have to tell people that you're smart, you're probably not.

In my opinion, Shoe labels herself as a "brainlet" as a sad attempt to make her free from criticism ... Even though she's confrontational all of the time with the way she calls people out. A few years ago, she fell back on the "But my channel is just an entertainment and comedy channel, so you can't criticize me!" excuse. Her calling herself a brainlet is more of the same from her, in my opinion.

I'd say that June is just as much of a conceited fool as Greg ... But she's much better at branding herself than Greg is.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

If you're so concerned about this thread becoming infiltrated with right wingers, then place the blame where it belongs: On Shoe herself.

These days she considers people on the right to be all of the things that SJWs say that we are, and she attempts to befriend people who advocate for political violence against right-wingers (like ContraPoints). It has even been revealed that she's partaken in similar methods as Kraut & Tea, where she's tried to dox or "expose" conservatives in certain discords (and her manbaby "fiance" is guilty of it too). And on many occasions, she has said some flat-out lies about Steven Crowder (which is part of the reason why his name pops up on this thread every so often) and then never addresses her lies when they are exposed as such.

Here is your reminder that, when Crowder made that video about Alexa being biased, she not only did not believe it was real (which it's fine), but she said Crowder lied because that's one thing he was very capable of doing without any proof or evidence so she had to quickly delete that tweet.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Here is your reminder that, when Crowder made that video about Alexa being biased, she not only did not believe it was real (which it's fine), but she said Crowder lied because that's one thing he was very capable of doing without any proof or evidence so she had to quickly delete that tweet.

Well, first off, she was wrong about the video not being real ... As other people did the same thing as Crowder, and the very same response was said to them. Not that Alexa said the same thing to everybody (because I believe the real story was that Alexa's answers were inconsistent after a certain point), but Alexa said it to more than enough people where there's solid confirmation that Crowder wasn't lying.

And her making such a big deal about it created an internet shitstorm. Crowder himself addressed what was being said about him, and took great offense to it (because, you know, nobody appreciates it when a false narrative is being passed around about them).

Shoe deleted her tweets regarding the situation, and never addressed it again. She never publically corrected herself, and she never apologized to Crowder ... Even though she was 100% in the wrong. She just brushed it under the rug and called it a day.

 

[Some JERK]

If you constantly have to tell people that you're smart, you're probably not.

I've said this before, and after seeing the "E=mc2 is dumb." statement I think it absolutely applies here:

Being intelligent is like being telekinetic. You'll never really know if someone who is is just pretending not to be, but it's fucking hilarious to watch someone who isn't pretend that they are.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Well, first off, she was wrong about the video not being real ... As other people did the same thing as Crowder, and the very same response was said to them. Not that Alexa said the same thing to everybody (because I believe the real story was that Alexa's answers were inconsistent after a certain point), but Alexa said it to more than enough people where there's solid confirmation that Crowder wasn't lying.

And her making such a big deal about it created an internet shitstorm. Crowder himself addressed what was being said about him, and took great offense to it (because, you know, nobody appreciates it when a false narrative is being passed around about them).

Shoe deleted her tweets regarding the situation, and never addressed it again. She never publically corrected herself, and she never apologized to Crowder ... Even though she was 100% in the wrong. She just brushed it under the rug and called it a day.

I think this is the reason she's a bit afraid of him now. She knows he can expose her for being a liar, even though that's not something Crowder would do. At least not with a bad intention. He's not a bad person. Him saying "But, June, remember when you accused me of lying and I proved you wrong" could be taken as a direct attack by Shoe despite it's just Crowder defending himself from waht SHE did, an attack to his character.

 

[4STA]

Oh yeah, Mr. "Literally Honeymooned in the Actual Soviet Union" who praised SU multiple times, who says he has "never changed his opinion on any issues" is just a moderate 'Capitalist + safety net guy.' Nope, nothing else to see here! I mean I don't think I can even list half the things, but he has praised every Commie leader in the past as far as I know. All of them. No red flags there says Shoe, moderate incarnate!

And of course, if you can't piece it together from that alone, he won't fire actual self proclaimed violent 'bring back muh Gulags' commies. She is so ideologically possessed, all she can do is pretend not to know of this. And I guarantee she knows.

Hell of a dumb ship to go down with tbh. And why even? Because Comrade Bernie seems more moderate on the most surface level, and she just refuses to dig any deeper because she wants that to be the case? At least have the intelligence to shut up about it, if so.

 

[Niggernerd]

Oh yeah, Mr. "Literally Honeymooned in the Actual Soviet Union" who praised SU multiple times, who says he has "never changed his opinion on any issues" is just a moderate 'Capitalist + safety net guy.' Nope, nothing else to see here! I mean I don't think I can even list half the things, but he has praised every Commie leader in the past as far as I know. All of them. No red flags there says Shoe, moderate incarnate!

And of course, if you can't piece it together from that alone, he won't fire actual self proclaimed violent 'bring back muh Gulags' commies. She is so ideologically possessed, all she can do is pretend not to know of this. And I guarantee she knows.

Hell of a dumb ship to go down with tbh. And why even? Because Comrade Bernie seems more moderate on the most surface level, and she just refuses to dig any deeper because she wants that to be the case? At least have the intelligence to shut up about it, if so.

The only one i can think of that he hasn't praised is Maduro (from what i know) although iirc he praised Venezuela as a socialst utopia i.e. probably praising Chavez in that regard and denying bread lines and other shit living conditions. Even though both fucked the country to the ground and their people eat food from the garbage. Both stole money from the people to keep their communist militias fed and armed (barely lol) while touting their socialist paradise free from Western dogs (lol no we just don't care for your shit country and its low quality oil)
But yep that's a real paradise for the people of socialism.
I don't think Bernie want's gulags and breadlines but he isn't openly against it so for June it's a-okay just another victory for socialism! I mean yea, she can try to argue nordic socialism except they laugh at bernie bros because they're a market economy. June just can't admit to herself socialism isn't the way to go because she's too far into now to go back.

 

[UnclePhil]

Has this been posted yet?

June takes on every bro's favorite hacky comedy bit.

 

[Jack Awful]

TFW Shoe became her parody character, but unironically.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

The only one i can think of that he hasn't praised is Maduro (from what i know) although iirc he praised Venezuela as a socialst utopia i.e. probably praising Chavez in that regard and denying bread lines and other shit living conditions. Even though both fucked the country to the ground and their people eat food from the garbage. Both stole money from the people to keep their communist militias fed and armed (barely lol) while touting their socialist paradise free from Western dogs (lol no we just don't care for your shit country and its low quality oil)
But yep that's a real paradise for the people of socialism.
I don't think Bernie want's gulags and breadlines but he isn't openly against it so for June it's a-okay just another victory for socialism! I mean yea, she can try to argue nordic socialism except they laugh at bernie bros because they're a market economy. June just can't admit to herself socialism isn't the way to go because she's too far into now to go back.

Bernie is like every western hippie useful idiot who believed commie PR hype, and being an old man he's too set in his ways to let it go. I think Bernie could be dangerous if put in power not because he personally would order some purging, but because he'd appoint some psycho to a position of authority who would do purgings on the downlow and he'd absolutely refuse to admit it was going on.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

No one would have challenged this, but I'm kind of weirded out that this thread is now an echo chamber for right wingers to subtly inject bad takes.

The most powerful political figure in the world, who regularly says bombastic and inflammatory things on a public platform definitely does have control and influence over the people who support him. Every public figure has a level of responsibility for their audience, and I think your statement is disingenuous and comes from a place of political bias.

No. The only person who is responsible for an individual is that individual (and their parents if they are a minor). If I tell a guy, "hey, go beat the shit out of Tom", and the guy goes and beats the shit out of Tom, it's the guy who is at fault. Note that that is different than me offering him money to beat up Tom, in which case I am at fault. That's not the same thing as what Trump does though. If Trump or Sanders use rhetoric that riles people up, they are not responsible for what happens next. They can't control anything their followers do.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Bernie is like every western hippie useful idiot who believed commie PR hype, and being an old man he's too set in his ways to let it go. I think Bernie could be dangerous if put in power not because he personally would order some purging, but because he'd appoint some psycho to a position of authority who would do purgings on the downlow and he'd absolutely refuse to admit it was going on.

Bernie doesn't even need to be in power for doing this. he's already doing it by hiring commies to do his campaign work.

Shoe, you have a terrible taste picking men. NOt surprised she chose these two: Greg is her "dom", the one telling her what to do and Bernie is a commie, an ideology that often likes to control everything their population do. Take the hint, Shoe.

 

[Jack Awful]

https://archive.fo/Gxxpj

Bernie and Greg are literally Shoe's personality now.

It's sad as hell.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

https://archive.fo/Gxxpj

Bernie and Greg are literally Shoe's personality now.

It's sad as hell.

I have candidates that I vote for, and I have candidates that I agree with more than others ... But I can't get my head around this level of fanaticism when it comes to any politician.

Bernie Sanders and Greg truly are her only hobbies. It's really pathetic. She probably can't hold a normal conversation with people anymore.

 

[Dude Snakes]

TFW Shoe became her parody character, but unironically.

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Damn this is sad, there was a time that I liked the Skeptic crowd now all of them have disgraced themselves. The only one I watch now is Styx but he too is a lolcow albeit a minor one. It sucks to see youtubers you used to like become the very thing that they used to laugh at/mock.

 

[Drifting Panzer]

Damn this is sad, there was a time that I liked the Skeptic crowd now all of them have disgraced themselves. The only one I watch now is Styx but he too is a lolcow albeit a minor one. It sucks to see youtubers you used to like become the very thing that they used to laugh at/mock.

That goes with youtubers in general. Shoe, Bob, Spoony, Razor... The list is endless. I even look at the people I watch now and think "you are going to disappoint me sometime in the near future, aren't you?"