Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

[Rupin]

I'm talking about he starts drama and kicks out people like nerkish, doug, Tim, nasser, Edwin, mike, and wc is was going after sashi when she's doing a pin up for zach. Yeah he might get good views but he's got like 100k subs, i expect he would make that much. You know if evs continues this drama stuff zach, Jon, Cecil and others would leave one by one.

he kicked Nerkish out for being a racist piece of shit, Tim was doxing people, Nasser was talking shit on CG through twitter DMs and then had the nerve to go on EVS’s show and promote his book, Edwin tried To be the moral police, and we know why Mike and Doug left. I can’t speak on Sashi because I really don’t know what happened there.

He won’t start trouble with John, Zach and Cecil because
A. They are pretty much his best friends
B. They have made tons of money together
C. They are all on code when it comes to CG.
D. They don’t act like Mike or Doug.

 

[AnOminous]

Doug told Ethan from the jump ewj cannot be associated with cg, it was literally one campaign and doug would've come back if wc didn't fuck him and Ethan and other cg members doing the whole "is earthwarm jim anti lbgt?"

Adopting that specific SJW tactic was completely incomprehensible hypocrisy.

 

[jspit]

Adopting that specific SJW tactic was completely incomprehensible hypocrisy.

Pretty much. It was very EVS though. People forget he always rode the fence, even on she/he Mags when she went after Richard and Dan Slott.

At this moment, there 1,184 people watching EVS’s live and it is 4:41 in the morning according to my time. No anti comics gater’s numbers even come close to that at any point of the day. At best, you will have maybe 100 or people in their chats. So that hardly counts as most of CG.

considering how most campaigns have a few thousand supporters and some of those supporters account for thousands of dollars, losing hundreds of members is a big loss. But I agree, EVS got the majority of the autist brigade. For now.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

EVS is just, playing a role. Drama brings in views. What he does do right, is that he is constantly highlighting new creators and their projects. He has a high success rate in getting small creators campaigns funded. How many times have you seen Doug do that? He gets a lot of flack because after he got what he wanted, he took his ball and ran home.

I feel that this will be reflected with his sales on Bigfoot Bill 2 and EWJ 2. We already see it in the numbers with his EWJ relaunch when compared to Cyberfrog’s and Jawbreaker’s relaunch.

It's amazing how many people here refuse to see that. I've been 'in'/watching/whatever EVS/comicsgate/Warcampaign/Doug/Mike from the beginning and what amazes me is how much alike the Antis and EVS haters are, sharing tactics and arguements with Renfamous and the Kick Vic crew. Many are the same people so that box checks. And like Ren and Law twitter, they run to whatever e-celeb they think will give their horseshit legitimacy.

Side note: Disagree and leave all the autistic ratings you like. Doesn't change the reality.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

he kicked Nerkish out for being a racist piece of shit,

Umm, he's not racist. War campaign was threatening to dox him when he didn't join cg, which evs admitted dozen of times "i told him to join cg. But he said he's cg adjacent" not because he was "racist". Cecil makes the same jokes as nerkish and guess what? He can not police people on his discord.

Nasser was talking shit on CG through twitter DMs and then had the nerve to go on EVS’s show and promote his book,

Tug does the same thing every few months, mostly due to him being a cuck who let his wife fuck pan. Nasser got made fun almost anytime by evs and others when he make an appearance on the stream during cg's beginnings, probably got tired of being a whipping boy.

we know why Mike and Doug left.

Edwin would've came back if than and wc got off his ass, he told them before launching the ewj that the book can't be associated, if ethan didnt go around saying 'is ewj homophobic" then he would've came back for bigfoot bill 2. If cg stopped being drama whores he would come back but like you said "Ethan likes starting drama".

He won’t start trouble with John, Zach and Cecil because
A. They are pretty much his best friends
B. They have made tons of money together
C. They are all on code when it comes to CG.
D. They don’t act like Mike or Doug.

I mean evs said he was good friends with doug, mike and Edwin a year and a half ago and look how that turned out. Cg trying to be the kunite is going to be sustainable.

 

[FROG]

Adopting that specific SJW tactic was completely incomprehensible hypocrisy.

Let me help you comprehend.

1. Doug declared himself "ComicsGate to the bone" two weeks before abandoning ComicsGate as "too controversial" for EWJ to be associated with. Which was fine, except...

2. ...On his way out the door, he announced that his main reason for leaving ComicsGate was that it wouldn't fight the LGBTQ brigade with him.

3. Me, an intellectual, wondered why a consumer advocacy movement that he was only too happy to be a part of two weeks prior was suddenly MORE controversial to the mainstream he was marketing EWJ to than his blatant and public stance about the gays.

My point was and still is, ComicsGate isn't a controversial movement. Doug was being a hypocrite. Doug has TONS of "controversial" views that he proudly expressed then and now. He simply wanted to cut his ties with ComicsGate, but kick us on the way out the door.

He then scrambled for other reasons, stumbled onto the IndieCron vs CGOnly argument, advocated to burn IndieCron to the ground, before he realized he'd be better off the other way around. The whole thing was infuriating to ComicsGaters, who suddenly saw Doug for who and what he is.

Fuck that dude.

 

[jspit]

Let me help you comprehend.

1. Doug declared himself "ComicsGate to the bone" two weeks before abandoning ComicsGate as "too controversial" for EWJ to be associated with. Which was fine, except...

2. ...On his way out the door, he announced that his main reason for leaving ComicsGate was that it wouldn't fight the LGBTQ brigade with him.

3. Me, an intellectual, wondered why a consumer advocacy movement that he was only too happy to be a part of two weeks prior was suddenly MORE controversial to the mainstream he was marketing EWJ to than his blatant and public stance about the gays.

My point was and still is, ComicsGate isn't a controversial movement. Doug was being a hypocrite. Doug has TONS of "controversial" views that he proudly expressed then and now. He simply wanted to cut his ties with ComicsGate, but kick us on the way out the door.

He then scrambled for other reasons, stumbled onto the IndieCron vs CGOnly argument, advocated to burn IndieCron to the ground, before he realized he'd be better off the other way around. The whole thing was infuriating to ComicsGaters, who suddenly saw Doug for who and what he is.

Fuck that dude.

Nice story. Heres the reality.

You talked about banding together as artists against people trying to cancel you. The, what was it, alphabet brigade are the ones trying to CANCEL Doug and Mike and so many others. But you weren't down to stand united there. Because you aren't an intellectual or some paragon of virtue. Your a guy who's about number one, and why take heat when your values aren't on the line?

That's fine. But if that's the case, why stand next to you and take heat for your values they don't share, when if the situation is reversed you cannot be counted on? When the alphabet brigade come knocking, you'll take to twitter and tut and morally shame and posture. We saw that multiple times.

Doug doesn't have to do that. He got Jim, and with him the ability to make money independent of you. He 100% should drop your hypocrite ass.

Mike, Elliot, and others still needed you though. They either should have stayed under your thumb or learned how to youtube.

 

[FROG]

Nice story. Heres the reality.

You talked about banding together as artists against people trying to cancel you. The, what was it, alphabet brigade are the ones trying to CANCEL Doug and Mike and so many others. But you weren't down to stand united there. Because you aren't an intellectual or some paragon of virtue. Your a guy who's about number one, and why take heat when your values aren't on the line?

That's fine. But if that's the case, why stand next to you and take heat for your values they don't share, when if the situation is reversed you cannot be counted on? When the alphabet brigade come knocking, you'll take to twitter and tut and morally shame and posture. We saw that multiple times.

Doug doesn't have to do that. He got Jim, and with him the ability to make money independent of you. He 100% should drop your hypocrite ass.

Mike, Elliot, and others still needed you though. They either should have stayed under your thumb or learned how to youtube.

No.

We didn't band together as artists AGAINST people trying to cancel us.

We banded together as creative people in an effort to be able to work in our chosen field. We fight if we need to, but only in support of our continued ability to make a living. In support of each other. My goal was never to destroy Renfamous or Richard Pace or any of these other douchebags. They'll destroy themselves.

It was just to make them irrelevant. To cancel Cancel Culture, and make it impossible for SJWs to impoverish their political enemies in comics ever again.

When we're faced with people, like Doug, who only want to go head to head with their ideological counterparts, we've always had trouble. We're just trying to build something that lasts, and something that works. Not advance a conservative ideology. That was Doug's problem, Tim Lim's problem, Nerkish's problem, and Mike S Miller's problem. And they'll all end up in the same place, including Doug.

Doug conned ComicsGate. He scammed us. He pretended to agree with our goals, took donations from people who otherwise wouldn't have cared about his project, and then spit in their faces. He took my time and energy and is now actively trying to destroy what I'm trying to build.

He is a legitimate piece of shit. I don't say that about many people, but he's a shithead.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

Nice story. Heres the reality.

You talked about banding together as artists against people trying to cancel you. The, what was it, alphabet brigade are the ones trying to CANCEL Doug and Mike and so many others. But you weren't down to stand united there. Because you aren't an intellectual or some paragon of virtue. Your a guy who's about number one, and why take heat when your values aren't on the line?

That's fine. But if that's the case, why stand next to you and take heat for your values they don't share, when if the situation is reversed you cannot be counted on? When the alphabet brigade come knocking, you'll take to twitter and tut and morally shame and posture. We saw that multiple times.

Doug doesn't have to do that. He got Jim, and with him the ability to make money independent of you. He 100% should drop your hypocrite ass.

Mike, Elliot, and others still needed you though. They either should have stayed under your thumb or learned how to youtube.

No clue how you came to that conclusion. Comicsgate was NEVER about going to war with the rainbow brigade. It was about getting SJWs the fuck out of people's shit, making comics people wanted to buy and turning a profit. Doug and mike can go fight whatever war they want, but they didn't and never will co-opt comicsgate to do it. FROG didn't need to, nor should he have 'stood with' the people that not only threw him under the bus, but mocked him and comicsgate as they did it... "Quite a pickle huh? said Mike. "Comicsgate is a cult"...said Mike." "Comicsgate hates Christians"... said Doug.

They can both fuck right off as can their defenders.

Mike, Doug and everyone else don't "NEED" EVS or any other comicsgater. They can either succeed on their merits or fail. And Comicsgate doesn't need a couple SJWs in psuedochristian clothing. It's doing great without them.

 

[Mister Dongs]

I come in to explain how Ethan and the guys who lap up his tard cum took the IP leasing contract stipulations imposed on Doug TenNapel about not having EWJ associated with controversial groups as a personal attack by the evil hypocrite piece of shit betrayer Doug, and EVS himself shows up to describe how he took being labelled "controversial" personally and how much he hates Doug.

This, hot off the heels of holding an eight hour livestream for Richard C Meyer's latest project with The Expendables franchise, an IP is almost certainly also contractually stipulated against being associated with CG. But somehow I don't think that will be brought up this time around.

 

[Rupin]

I come in to explain how Ethan and the guys who lap up his tard cum took the IP leasing contract stipulations imposed on Doug TenNapel about not having EWJ associated with controversial groups as a personal attack by the evil hypocrite piece of shit betrayer Doug, and EVS himself shows up to describe how he took being labelled "controversial" personally and how much he hates Doug.

This, hot off the heels of holding an eight hour livestream for Richard C Meyer's latest project with The Expendables franchise, an IP is almost certainly also contractually stipulated against being associated with CG. But somehow I don't think that will be brought up this time around.

that’d be an issue one would have to take up with Sylvester Stallone. What does he have to lose anyway? he has already made his money and Hollywood has already cancelled him. So why not make money with his IP?

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

I come in to explain how Ethan and the guys who lap up his tard cum took the IP leasing contract stipulations imposed on Doug TenNapel about not having EWJ associated with controversial groups as a personal attack by the evil hypocrite piece of shit betrayer Doug, and EVS himself shows up to describe how he took being labelled "controversial" personally and how much he hates Doug.

This, hot off the heels of holding an eight hour livestream for Richard C Meyer's latest project with The Expendables franchise, an IP is almost certainly also contractually stipulated against being associated with CG. But somehow I don't think that will be brought up this time around.

Here's a thought. Maybe...and you gotta stick with me here...Maybe... The guy that got Metooed and had woke Hollywood shitcan most of his latest projects...AND is long time besties with the comicsgate writer, ...might have discussed this already.

Just a thought.

 

[AnOminous]

He is a legitimate piece of shit. I don't say that about many people, but he's a shithead.

So you chose to run with some SJW shit about "muh homophobia?" Why?

 

[Mister Dongs]

Here's a thought. Maybe...and you gotta stick with me here...Maybe... The guy that got Metooed and had woke Hollywood shitcan most of his latest projects...AND is long time besties with the comicsgate writer, ...might have discussed this already.

Just a thought.

Chuck Dixon, the guy that writes Alt-Hero for declared CG anathema Vox Day, is now a "comicsgate writer"? Good stuff, good stuff.
I'm just going to kick back and wait for the first guy to start asking if The Expendables is going to be an official Comicsgate title like how TenNapel was and branded a "grifting traitor" when he said no.

that’d be an issue one would have to take up with Sylvester Stallone. What does he have to lose anyway? he has already made his money and Hollywood has already cancelled him. So why not make money with his IP?

I doubt this is even about making money as far as Stallone is concern (because how much is the 5-10k kickback to a multimillionaire like Stallone?) so much as having a self-funding way of developing IP for his franchise that could later be optioned when the Netflix/Amazon Prime climate looks better.

 

[FROG]

I come in to explain how Ethan and the guys who lap up his tard cum took the IP leasing contract stipulations imposed on Doug TenNapel about not having EWJ associated with controversial groups as a personal attack by the evil hypocrite piece of shit betrayer Doug, and EVS himself shows up to describe how he took being labelled "controversial" personally and how much he hates Doug.

This, hot off the heels of holding an eight hour livestream for Richard C Meyer's latest project with The Expendables franchise, an IP is almost certainly also contractually stipulated against being associated with CG. But somehow I don't think that will be brought up this time around.

It isn't, douchebag, and neither was Earthworm Jim. Doug lied. We had half a dozen conversations in private about this, and Doug never once told me there were stipulations about ComicsGate with his deal. He told me it was a one to one trade off, his video game royalties in perpetuity for the graphic novel rights. BIGFOOT BILL was meant to demonstrate to the rightsholders what the GN would look like. He said he wouldn't be "using the Comicsgate hashtag anymore" but that he wouldn't run it down. He lied about that too.

So you chose to run with some SJW shit about "muh homophobia?" Why?

No, Doug chose to run with some SJW shit about "Muh ComicsGate is CONTROVERSIAL."

Chuck Dixon, the guy that writes Alt-Hero for declared CG anathema Vox Day, is now a "comicsgate writer"? Good stuff, good stuff.
I'm just going to kick back and wait for the first guy to start asking if The Expendables is going to be an official Comicsgate title like how TenNapel was and branded a "grifting traitor" when he said no.



I doubt this is even about making money as far as Stallone is concern (because how much is the 5-10k kickback to a multimillionaire like Stallone?) so much as having a self-funding way of developing IP for his franchise that could later be optioned when the Netflix/Amazon Prime climate looks better.

"Offical ComicsGate Title?" How retarded are you?

ComicsGate exists because a lot of people rose up in defense of Zack. This is a major victory for everyone who did so. And it's gonna get bigger....we've got lots of other stuff coming up!

 

[Rupin]

It isn't, douchebag, and neither was Earthworm Jim. Doug lied. We had half a dozen conversations in private about this, and Doug never once told me there were stipulations about ComicsGate with his deal. He told me it was a one to one trade off, his video game royalties in perpetuity for the graphic novel rights. BIGFOOT BILL was meant to demonstrate to the rightsholders what the GN would look like. He said he wouldn't be "using the Comicsgate hashtag anymore" but that he wouldn't run it down. He lied about that too.



No, Doug chose to run with some SJW shit about "Muh ComicsGate is CONTROVERSIAL."



"Offical ComicsGate Title?" How exceptional are you?

ComicsGate exists because a lot of people rose up in defense of Zack. This is a major victory for everyone who did so. And it's gonna get bigger....we've got lots of other stuff coming up!

in a conversation Doug had with Ro and some WC members, he said that he was trying to save comics gate.

Crypto Comics = Quarantine Oasis on Twitter

“@jondelarroz After attacking one creator, class act and legend Doug TenNapel got to the bottom of the truth about Ethan Van Sciver & Rohan Pall's weird #BlameWarCampaign cult that uses harassment and threats to put a stranglehold on #Comicsgate. https://t.co/TaqHpIiYae”

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That to me was a very confusing statement, because I thought he was trying to distance himself from the movement.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

Chuck Dixon, the guy that writes Alt-Hero for declared CG anathema Vox Day, is now a "comicsgate writer"? Good stuff, good stuff.
I'm just going to kick back and wait for the first guy to start asking if The Expendables is going to be an official Comicsgate title like how TenNapel was and branded a "grifting traitor" when he said no.



I doubt this is even about making money as far as Stallone is concern (because how much is the 5-10k kickback to a multimillionaire like Stallone?) so much as having a self-funding way of developing IP for his franchise that could later be optioned when the Netflix/Amazon Prime climate looks better.

You really ought to spend some time learning the history of this. The last time I checked, Renfamous and company played the guilt by association game, not Kiwi Farms. Dixon and Day arent the same person and the whole POINT of comicsgate is working with who you want without some jackasses on the internet giving consent for other people's business decisions.

Dixon, sans Day, has been writing comicsgate books for a while now. And if you paid ANY attention to comicsgate, you'd have already known that.

 

[AnOminous]

No, Doug chose to run with some SJW shit about "Muh ComicsGate is CONTROVERSIAL."

Are you claiming it isn't?

 

[FROG]

Are you claiming it isn't?

ComicsGate's mission statement of "Respect the customer in thought, word and deed" is damned less controversial than "If You support Gay Marriage You've Stabbed the Bride of Christ".

There is nothing controversial about ComicsGate in 2019-2020. Except late comics.

 

[The Wisdom of Bassets]

in a conversation Doug had with Ro and some WC members, he said that he was trying to save comics gate.

Crypto Comics = Quarantine Oasis on Twitter

“@jondelarroz After attacking one creator, class act and legend Doug TenNapel got to the bottom of the truth about Ethan Van Sciver & Rohan Pall's weird #BlameWarCampaign cult that uses harassment and threats to put a stranglehold on #Comicsgate. https://t.co/TaqHpIiYae”

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That to me was a very confusing statement, because I thought he was trying to distance himself from the movement.

Doug is just being two faced as usual. He tells one group that he's trying to save comicsgate and then hops on board with guys like Edwin and Mike, along with Preston Poulter, the Comic Book Hut and some of the other wannabee/johnny come lateley SJWs who are all gung ho on personal vendettas, clout chasing and 'destroying comicsgate'. Same tactics and likely some of the same people.

You know, because big bad EVS and Warcampaign put their own words out there for all to see and they didn't like the blowback. And of course, these pillars of soy fueled manliness get 'offended' by bog standard internet humor. Just like Kick Vic. Same tactics and likely some of the same people.