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Prophetic.
 
GethN7 powiedział(a):
Why am I not shocked to see a troon and pedophile alliance? One want to turn kids into sexed up disasters, one wants to have sex with them.

I reserve the right to be as bigoted as I please opposing this bullshit.
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It's just the next version of when LGB activists took both support and large sums of cash from NAMBLA decades ago.
 
heathercho powiedział(a):
13 is too young, especially when the freak has mental problems like whatever gender issues it has.
13 and the kid should be in school, after school activities.... it should be so busy it doesn't have time to hang out with troon friends or think about sex tbh.

This is why America is failing, for real.
Put the little shit in cram school so it doesn't have free time.
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Seriously, how are we normalizing giving sex toys to children. You're right that this is why America is failing.
 
Most gays I know want troons kicked out of LGB.

I don't have any particular issue with gays other than their belief that it's socially acceptable to trap women into loveless, often abusive, sham marriages. I also don't think it should be pushed onto kids at school or feature in childrens' TV shows and films. Websites and bars/social clubs for gays are fair enough though. The troons and, now, paedos who have latched onto the LGB movement will be its downfall. I've often wondered if that's why troons have been given free reign to reek chaos in LGB as they have done to womens' sports and rights..
 
Yeah let's just give out mandatory sex toys to kids, helping them experience superior pleasure to what they could get using their hands is SURE to prevent hypersexualized behavior and unsafe sex. While we're at it, we should probably show them how to use the toys by using them on ourselves, y'know, lead by example. Get this degenerate pedophile shit outta here. Nothing wrong with providing all the information requested but if you're going to spend money to help your kid masturbate you might as well just get 'em a prostitute. It's for the sake of education and prevention, right?
 
Call me a prude, but I do not like the idea of parents buying sex toys for their children. Yes, parents should educate their kids on sexual health and wellness, but that job does not include buying things that will help them get their rocks off. This is doubly true when said child is clearly going through a tough time and thinking they are in the "wrong body". TRAs will deny it up and down, but transitioning is a very sexual thing. Sex is a big part of transitioning culture, and there is no doubt in my mind this poor 13 year old girl has some messed up views on sex already. Why mess it up further? This kid needs therapy, not sex toys.

I also do not agree that buying a sex toy is like buying condoms. Condoms prevent pregnancy and STDs. That's called being smart and proactive. You don't need condoms to have sex or partake in sexual activity, it's just a smart idea. It makes sense for a parent to buy their sexually active kid something that prevents them from becoming young grandparents.

In contrast, a vibrator's sole purpose is to provide pleasure for the person using it. Why on earth would we want to encourage parents to be apart of giving their children pleasure? If this kid is going through puberty and curious about how to safety please herself, just tell her what NOT to do (e.g don't stick food or sharp objects up your vagina) and find her an age appropiate website/book to read more about it. There's plenty of ways to get off without a sex toy, and most girls that masturbate certainly don't start out with a sex toy. And frankly, I don't know why we would want to encourage kids to start with a vibrator first anyway. What's wrong with just using your hands or pillow like a lot of girls do?
 
remiem powiedział(a):
13 year olds can and do get pregnant. A vibrator that may curb them practising unsafe sex. Not a tough decision.

Please step off with the Puritanical bullshit. We live in an era where information is easily accessed, kids are more aware than their parents and more media savvy, they're given access to sexualised media at younger and younger ages and not enough parents, parent which leaves kids open to predation. The kid has already been transed which probably means they're involved with lgbt groups which are often full of hypersexualised conversations. If they haven't transed solely because of an attempt to belong, be special, or peer pressure.
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This is all objectively correct, but aren't you perhaps missing that it isn't right? Like, yes, this child also has had sex ed by this point. But education is still not the same as fetishization, and it's easily arguable that all trans culture is just varying degrees of sexual fetish, especially as it is presented by the people who are so online that they end up in this thread, and perhaps double especially when it comes to people transing literal children, which is predation. See the separate threads on this exact topic, there are a few.

It is very much not puritanical bullshit to wonder if a kid MAYBE shouldn't be given a sex toy specifically made for consenting adults by an adult, and it is also possible that two or more things can be bad at the same time. The options absolutely are not give this child a vibrator or get them pregnant. This kid is already a victim, and everyone in the story has already been so hypersexualized that they believe this is not only a normal conversation, but something that's for PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. That's enough for me to question the whole thing.
 
No, 13 year olds are children. It is never OK to give children sex toys. You can teach children about safe sex without the use of sex toys.

That's not being "puritanical."
 
T0oCoolFool powiedział(a):
Call me a prude, but I do not like the idea of parents buying sex toys for their children. Yes, parents should educate their kids on sexual health and wellness, but that job does not include buying things that will help them get their rocks off. This is doubly true when said child is clearly going through a tough time and thinking they are in the "wrong body". TRAs will deny it up and down, but transitioning is a very sexual thing. Sex is a big part of transitioning culture, and there is no doubt in my mind this poor 13 year old girl has some messed up views on sex already. Why mess it up further? This kid needs therapy, not sex toys.

I also do not agree that buying a sex toy is like buying condoms. Condoms prevent pregnancy and STDs. That's called being smart and proactive. You don't need condoms to have sex or partake in sexual activity, it's just a smart idea. It makes sense for a parent to buy their sexually active kid something that prevents them from becoming young grandparents.

In contrast, a vibrator's sole purpose is to provide pleasure for the person using it. Why on earth would we want to encourage parents to be apart of giving their children pleasure? If this kid is going through puberty and curious about how to safety please herself, just tell her what NOT to do (e.g don't stick food or sharp objects up your vagina) and find her an age appropiate website/book to read more about it. There's plenty of ways to get off without a sex toy, and most girls that masturbate certainly don't start out with a sex toy. And frankly, I don't know why we would want to encourage kids to start with a vibrator first anyway. What's wrong with just using your hands or pillow like a lot of girls do?
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Sounds like there has already been a massive erosion of proper boundaries both on a personal and societal level if 13-year-old girls are asking their mothers to provide them with a masturbation aid.

I mean, call me a prude as well, but I for one (and I'm sure I can speak for most if not all women from my generation) had pretty much rather died before asking my mom for a dildo when I was 13... and pretty much any age following that. It's just inappropriate for a parent to be so involved in their child's sex life. Period. This sounds to me like an aggressive push toward gradually normalizing children and sexuality in a way that is decidedly unhealthy, exploitative and voyeristic.

And frankly it seems like it's a precursor to the normalization of sexual contact between adults and minors.
 
Peaches Demure powiedział(a):
Sounds like there has already been a massive erosion of proper boundaries both on a personal and societal level if 13-year-old girls are asking their mothers to provide them with a masturbation aid.

I mean, call me a prude as well, but I for one (and I'm sure I can speak for most if not all women from my generation) had pretty much rather died before asking my mom for a dildo when I was 13... and pretty much any age following that. It's just inappropriate for a parent to be so involved in their child's sex life. Period. This sounds to me like an aggressive push toward gradually normalizing children and sexuality in a way that is decidedly unhealthy, exploitative and voyeristic.

And frankly it seems like it's a precursor to the normalization of sexual contact between adults and minors.
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Exactly, that's what I'm saying. The minute someone starts defending shit like that I can't help but think they're another degenerate agenda agent trying to infiltrate whatever they can. Though I suppose some are simply misguided.
 
Peaches Demure powiedział(a):
Sounds like there has already been a massive erosion of proper boundaries both on a personal and societal level if 13-year-old girls are asking their mothers to provide them with a masturbation aid.

I mean, call me a prude as well, but I for one (and I'm sure I can speak for most if not all women from my generation) had pretty much rather died before asking my mom for a dildo when I was 13... and pretty much any age following that. It's just inappropriate for a parent to be so involved in their child's sex life. Period. This sounds to me like an aggressive push toward gradually normalizing children and sexuality in a way that is decidedly unhealthy, exploitative and voyeristic.

And frankly it seems like it's a precursor to the normalization of sexual contact between adults and minors.
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Yep. I think most girls would rather die then ask their parents to buy them a damn vibrator. I didn't want to talk to my parents about my sex life, much less have them buy me stuff to make it better. I also agree with you about normalizing sexual contact between adults and minors. Imagine what crazy troon parents (like Christopher Phillip Moore ) would do. Christopher Moore is already very sexual and inappropriate with his kid, if buying sex toys for your children was normalized, he and other troons would no doubt exploit it. Soon it wouldn't just be *buying* sex toys, it would be demonstrating and "helping" them use it. I could also see him posting pictures of his child with his "awesome" new birthday present.
 
There’s a big difference between having a relationship where a child knows they can ask you something without judgement, and one where you’re actively part of their sex life. To create healthy boundaries is one of the most important things about bringing up kids. A healthy boundary would be the child informing the parent that the friend has a sex toy and has talked to them about it and asking for advice on how to assert a boundary.
This child is already being transed and is hyper sexualised for their age which in itself is a red flag for abuse. The entire scenario the kid is growing up in is wrong on so many levels.
Openness about sex/personal issues does not mean having no boundaries around them. This whole push to tear down boundaries around sex and minors is so disturbing.
 
Peaches Demure powiedział(a):
Sounds like there has already been a massive erosion of proper boundaries both on a personal and societal level if 13-year-old girls are asking their mothers to provide them with a masturbation aid.

I mean, call me a prude as well, but I for one (and I'm sure I can speak for most if not all women from my generation) had pretty much rather died before asking my mom for a dildo when I was 13... and pretty much any age following that. It's just inappropriate for a parent to be so involved in their child's sex life. Period. This sounds to me like an aggressive push toward gradually normalizing children and sexuality in a way that is decidedly unhealthy, exploitative and voyeristic.

And frankly it seems like it's a precursor to the normalization of sexual contact between adults and minors.
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Except the teenager didn't really ask for vibrator, just said yes after being asked. She did however plant the idea to her mom's head by talking about her friend. Who knows if the story was true but could be. I think the mom felt presure to be the cool and supportive mom and reacted in a moment. She is clearly unsure if this right course of action witch I think is fear.
 
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