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uhhhhhhh that’s a no, dawg.
Gayle Rubin, Pat Califia, Michel Foucault - the first queer theorists - all openly advocated for pedophilia, and the founding document of queer theory “Thinking Sex” spends over half its length supporting NAMBLA and man-boy lovers. All the original queer theorists argued for a total transgression of every sexual norm, and for people to apply anarchist theory to sexuality, including pedophilia. It’s not just a way to analyze literature. There is a reason so many troons will have “AOA:16-18” of age of attraction 16-18 in their twitter bios. I forget which, but there’s even a queer NYT author who talks a lot about AOA/NOMAPs on twitter and slips it in with his articles.

Gay men had to kick out the pedophiles when gay rights first started. It wasn’t just some gossip that gay men wanted to fuck kids, pedophiles (especially man-boy lovers) were trying to get accepted in the same push as regular gay and lesbians in the 1970s. They went into the shadows, wrote essays in liberal arts colleges, called it “queer theory” and started to wear people down.

That’s why troons are not just stopping at being accepted at work. Trooning kids, sexually grooming kids, people like Yaniv hosting a children’s pool party without adults to supervise, forcing men to lick a stink ditch or else you’re TrAnSpHoBiC. They not only want to force your standards and barriers to sexual consent to disappear, but to make you unable to speak up.

As I said earlier in the thread - it’s anarchism for degenerate fetish people, and to treat it like a harmless civil rights movement that kills troons if you don’t participate is the optics these losers want.

I’m sperging out and MATI now
A couple of things:

All of the scholarly sources about the history of queer theory I found didn't even mention Rubin's "Thinking Sex," much less describe it as a founding document. Rubin and her spouse's contributions (which are controversial and not universally accepted on account of the things you mentioned) aren't representative of all of queer theory. There is still unfortunately a minority of academics that defend her, though, which is another reason it shouldn't be taught at universities-- you might end up with a fringe professor who supports Rubin's crap including it in a curriculum.

The idea that gay people are disproportionately likely to be pedophiles is absurd and has been debunked many times. Pedophilia is a paraphilia-- pedophiles often don't care about gender, since it's just children in general they want to prey on. The vast, vast majority of pedophiles are males with adult female partners, and over two-thirds of CSA survivors are girls. The theory that the gay rights movement expunged itself of pedophiles because of respectability politics is literally the exact same argument pedophiles themselves have made. Have you ever considered that it's actually because everybody, not just gay people, began cracking down on pedophiles more seriously in the seventies and eighties? CAPTA was enacted in 1974, for instance, and studies on child abuse really didn't begin in earnest until the late sixties. As bizarre as it seems today, no one-- straight or gay-- gave a fuck about CSA before the sixties.

Also note how most the people seeking to troon kids are AGPs asshurt that they didn't experience a "female childhood." AGPs (transbians) are straight men, and often seek out adult female partners (with limited success lol.) The desire to transition children is a very recent thing, and though I acknowledge correlation does not equal causation, I don't think it's a coincidence that the influx of AGPs and the increase in popularity of kid-trooning happened at the same time. This is because the mid 2000s marked the beginning of the commodification of gayness-- both in argumentation and in mass media. I blame this partially on the retarded idea on the left that the more oppressed someone is the more correct they must be.

I reiterate: most practitioners of queer theory today would just describe it as media analysis and don't even know about Rubin's work, much less endorse it.

Fight the real enemy: the people turning identity-based oppression into a trend. There wouldn't be so many AGP creeps in the LGB community today if it weren't for the SJWs ten years ago who squawked about how horrible and uncool white straight men are. They conflated oppression with righteousness, so straight men found a way to make themselves oppressed, while also retaining all their creepy, pedophilic tendencies.
 
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“You can be gay, just don’t be loud about it!”

we have gone full circle :story: :story: :story:

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On that note, this has been making the rounds:

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This is the quote:

“Trans pride is quite challenging to LGB people because if gender is on a spectrum then homosexuality doesn’t really exist, because it can only exist in a binary. So when it comes down to it, it’s just two people or three or whatever, loving each other. It’s nothing to do with sexuality. Sexuality is redundant.”

The troon speaking is Jon “Joy” Everingham, the first trans minister appointed by the UK Methodist Church. Same old same old AGP, married father with two kids.

To @Symphony of the NEET ’s point, this is how boundaries are dissolved.

Isn't this self defeating and contradictory? If Man and Woman are binary, likewise sexual orientation, how does TransMan and TransWoman exist, when it's based on the same binary principle?
 
This person is fascinating. He seems to have no idea how any of his supposed medical conditions work (he describes down syndrome as having two X chromosomes and refers to his asperger's and his autism as two separate conditions that he happens to have both of) and his coworkers think he's faking being re.tarded.
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Holy shit I thought I'd never see someone faking Down's. I can die happy.

Fight the real enemy: the people turning identity-based oppression into a trend. There wouldn't be so many AGP creeps in the LGB community today if it weren't for the SJWs ten years ago who squacked about how horrible and uncool white straight men are. They conflated oppression with righteousness, so straight men found a way to make themselves oppressed, while also retaining all their creepy, pedophilic tendencies.

This is pretty much exactly it.

Weird fetish shit aside, the main feeling I get from the newest crop of people who are transitioning is that they're hurting in some way. People who are a part of marginalized communities are allowed to express this on left-leaning spaces using anger, but straight white middle-class homeboy is not. He notices that people listen to troons and accept their opinion as valid, so then he quickly becomes the catgirl. This solved approximately none of his problems, but now at least people listen to him because he is a member of a systemically oppressed class.

This shit quickly comes crumbling down if you ever point out that, according to Critical Theory, people voluntarily self-disenfranchising would actually be entryism. Never mention that though.
 
On that note, this has been making the rounds:

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Link

This is the quote:

“Trans pride is quite challenging to LGB people because if gender is on a spectrum then homosexuality doesn’t really exist, because it can only exist in a binary. So when it comes down to it, it’s just two people or three or whatever, loving each other. It’s nothing to do with sexuality. Sexuality is redundant.”

The troon speaking is Jon “Joy” Everingham, the first trans minister appointed by the UK Methodist Church. Same old same old AGP, married father with two kids.

To @Symphony of the NEET ’s point, this is how boundaries are dissolved.

Give em an inch and they'll take a mile. Drop the LGB! Next step which they are already taking is that there is no justification for refusing sex anymore you genital fetishists.
 
A couple of things:

All of the scholarly sources about the history of queer theory I found didn't even mention Rubin's "Thinking Sex," much less describe it as a founding document.

it took two seconds to find this


Her article "Thinking Sex" is widely regarded as a founding text of gay and lesbian studies, sexuality studies, and queer theory.[1][2]
citations are

  1. Binhammer, Katherine (2002). "Thinking Gender with Sexuality in 1790s' Feminist Thought". Feminist Studies. 28(3): 667–690. doi:10.2307/3178798. ISSN 0046-3663. JSTOR 3178798. Rubin's article, often referred to as a founding text of lesbian and gay studies
  2. ^ Lochrie, Karma (2017-05-19). "Thinking Sex with the Early Moderns by Valerie Traub". Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society. 42 (4): 1036–1038. doi:10.1086/690960. ISSN 0097-9740. Gayle Rubin’s foundational essay for queer theory, “Thinking Sex: Notes for a Radical Theory of the Politics of Sexuality” first published in 1984


here is the definition of queer theory, given by one of the most important queer theorists
Queer is by definition whatever is at odds with the normal,
the legitimate, the dominant. There is nothing in particular
to which it necessarily refers. It is an identity without an essence.
David Halperin[1]

[1] Halperin, David, Saint Foucault: Towards a Gay Hagiography, Oxford University Press, Oxford, 1997, p. 62.

another, by someone not so famous

Anti-social queer theory . . . is a queer critique that aims to decenter positivity, productivity, redemptive politics of affirmation, narratives of success, and politics that are founded on hope for an imagined future. It�s rude politics and has no interest in being polite. It embraces masochism, anti-production, self-destructiveness, abjection, forgetfulness, radical passivity, aggressive negation, unintelligibility, negativity, punk pugilism, and anti-social attitudes as a form of resistance to liberal feminist and gay politics of cohesion. It�s about not-becoming because the notion of becoming is perceived as following the capitalist logic of production and models of success that are often tied up with colonialism. It asks, why the fuck should queers be nice? And asserts that politeness is heteronormative and we should embrace our utter failure at functioning within a colonialist, heteronormative, capitalist, racist, sexist and transphobic framework.
Jackie Wang[1]

[1] �Negative Feminism, anti-social queer theory and the politics of hope,� Giulia Tofana the Apothecary, https://loneberry.tumblr.com/post/724635724/negative-feminism-anti-social-queer-theory-and


another


Queer theory obliterates the idea of good and bad sex
and what should and should not be deemed deviant.
Andrew Extein, �Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders�[1]

[1] Extein, Andrew, �Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders,� Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andre...ut-sex-offenders_b_3386970.html?utm_hp_ref=tw


another



Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s,
boylovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult
to find defenders for their civil liberties,
let alone for their erotic orientation.
Gayle Rubin, in the founding document of �Queer Theory�[1]

[1] Rubin, Gayle, �Thinking Sex: Notes for a Radical Theory of the Politics of Sexuality,� originally published in Vance, Carole, ed, Pleasure and Danger, Routledge & Kegan, Paul, Abingdon, 1984.
https://web.archive.org/web/20121224204605/http://www.feminish.com:80/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Rubin1984.pdf


i can go all day providing sources for how the point of queer theory is to destroy all social norms.

lesbians and gay men have been fighting it for almost four decades. here are a lesbian and two gay men going after queer theory


here is a lesbian and two gay men

As lesbian feminist Sheila Jeffreys writes in Unpacking Queer Politics, �The harmful [sexual] practices that have developed in this period have all been given theoretical justification within queer theory and politics. . . . The new politics was based, quite explicitly, upon a repudiation of lesbian feminist ideas. Queer politics enshrined a cult of masculinity. . . . [T]he political agenda of queer politics is damaging to the interests of lesbians, women in general, and to marginalized and vulnerable constituencies of gay men.�[1]
Gay male author Gabriel Rotello states, �Queer theory seeks to overturn society�s traditional views of sex and sexuality. No one would be stigmatized, no matter what they do; we�re not going to care about social approval. They think society is inherently repressive. But in this epidemic [AIDS] it is impossible to advocate a system in which everything is okay.�[2]
I would say it�s always impossible to advocate a system in which everything is okay.
Andrew Sullivan, another gay writer, has characterized the �essential argument� of queer theory as promoting the notion that �there is no such thing as responsibility, and any attempt to go by the rules is oppressive.�[3]


[1] Jeffreys, Sheila, Unpacking Queer Politics: A Lesbian Feminist Perspective, Polity Press, Cambridge, 2003, p. 2.
[2] Smith, Dinitia, ��Queer Theory� Is Entering The Literary Mainstream,� The New York Times, January 17, 1998. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/17/b...iterary-mainstream.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

[3] Smith, Dinitia, ��Queer Theory� Is Entering The Literary Mainstream,� The New York Times, January 17, 1998. http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/17/b...iterary-mainstream.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

you'll note BOTH of the men echoed what i said, about how queer theory is about destroying the distinction between what is and isn't socially acceptable. that's the whole fucking point of queer theory.
 
Isn't this self defeating and contradictory? If Man and Woman are binary, likewise sexual orientation, how does TransMan and TransWoman exist, when it's based on the same binary principle?

Congrats, you are officially better at thinking things through than literally every troon on the planet.
 
A quick one to break up all the sperging about Queer Theory that I kicked off (the TL;DR - idiots believe bullshit)

Meet Zinnia, the proof that troons don’t even try anymore. Zinnia shows his feminine beauty with making faces like he shit himself, hand poses, and ... basically that.

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of course wants to dick down women
If there was ever an example that AGP/kweer troons trooned out because they want to escape the identity of male oppressor, do as little work possible, and get off on looking like a melted Troll doll, here ya go
 
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The app I use to track my periods made a forum for trans women to discuss their “”””””””periods”””””””” and all I can garner from this is that it’s mass delusion.

"just I feel it's necessary to have some products that come with having a uterus not be labeled female because it makes me uncomfortable"

Wow. There it is. Right out there in the open, like a turd on a tile floor. He didn't say "because I'll literally die" or "because I'll be oppressed/literally murdered". It's "bcuz muh feels". He comes right out and admits it.

"I want to change the way society functions and shoehorn some bullshit down your throat because a word on a box of tampons (that I'll never be able to use anyway) hurt my feelings."

Un-fucking-believable.
 
"just I feel it's necessary to have some products that come with having a uterus not be labeled female because it makes me uncomfortable"

Wow. There it is. Right out there in the open, like a turd on a tile floor. He didn't say "because I'll literally die" or "because I'll be oppressed/literally murdered". It's "bcuz muh feels". He comes right out and admits it.

"I want to change the way society functions and shoehorn some bullshit down your throat because a word on a box of tampons (that I'll never be able to use anyway) hurt my feelings."

Un-fucking-believable.
Yet if someone gave the simple response "It would make most people uncomfortable to think about men menstruating out of their penises, that's usually a sign of a disease and not menstruation. Sorry bud." he'd go cry in a corner, call you a TERF and other people would support his dumbass point of view.

Speaking of menstruating cocks... do post op FTMs still menstruate? Does the blood just squirt out of their neopeeholes or what?
 
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