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[Mister Y]

So Chupp will do the work of opposing council if he is annoyed enough?

Well, the transcript is 35 pages long (for the transcript part itself).
Martinez talked an approximative amount of 10 pages, the other 25 pages are Chupp going back and forth with Lemoine on his own.
I don't know if it implies what you said, or if Chupp was simply confused by Lemoine's stupidity.

EDIT: The conversation pattern between the two of them is also very different by the way.
Martinez made monolitic statements with Chupp just listening quietly, while Lemoine was constantly interrupted by Chupp with questions.

 

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He changed his Youtube name at least 3 times,
and I found a few deleted Twitter accounts that belong to him,
so I'm pretty sure he's stirring shit.
I bet he will DFE soon.

If someone wants to dig more, PM me.
I have other "projects" I'm working on,
so I can't focus on him, but I will help if someone wants to dig.

Ehhh.... While informative it's a tad tame for weeb wars standards. While yes it's autistic, exceptional, and such. Gestures towards people like BT, Lynx, and the like. To be honest, this person is relatively harmless by comparison to the real exceptional dipshits we've seen.

And from what I could tell a little by the way they behave, this person is VERY different from the likes of reaver. reaVer is a special type of pozload my neghole type of person.

 

[HighwayStar]

Nick Rekieta posted this short video:

 

[SpiralStars]

So Chupp will do the work of opposing council if he is annoyed enough?

2nd theory. Some people just rub Chupp the wrong way. Ty is the most obvious, but he cut Lemoine off there as well. He liked the other representation, especially Marchi's. Now that Lemoine caused him the most work, he's getting his attention and resistence. Ty may have found someone Chupp likes or guessed he'd like after figuring this out or just got lucky . Tolerates may be a better word than like.

Nick Rekieta posted this short video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LM8RDMQjNsI

Hmmmm.

Is this a glimmer of a settlement strategy between Vic & Funi or a divide & conquer strategy? Regardless it seems relevant to the post-appeal world of Vic winning many of the appeal charges at least on Moronica & Marchi.

Could be they expect Funi to walk on appeal and are preemptively reforging Funi's stance to support the rest of the case.

 

[Scuttle]

Seems Funi are throwing the other defendants to the wolves. An interesting turn of events.

Vic can't accuse Funi of defamation and/or conspiracy if he uses their affidavit against Rial + Marchi. He either ignores this and attempts to argue that they WERE implying he was guilty, or sacrifices his proceedings on Funi to use their affidavit.

It also implies Rial and Marchi have done nothing but lie under oath.

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

Seems Funi are throwing the other defendants to the wolves. An interesting turn of events.

Vic can't accuse Funi of defamation and/or conspiracy if he uses their affidavit against Rial + Marchi. He either ignores this and attempts to argue that they WERE implying he was guilty, or sacrifices his proceedings on Funi to use their affidavit.

It also implies Rial and Marchi have done nothing but lie under oath.

Tbh, I'd rather have Vic proceed to only sue Funimation than have him only sue Marchi and Rial. Fuck Funi.

Also, him winning a lawsuit against Marchi and Rial would mean Funimation gets away scot-free, while him winning against Funimation alone would also automatically affect Marchi and Rial.

 

[Scuttle]

Tbh, I'd rather have Vic proceed to only sue Funimation than have him only sue Marchi and Rial. Fuck Funi.

Also, him winning a lawsuit against Marchi and Rial would mean Funimation gets away scot-free, while him winning against Funimation alone would also automatically affect Marchi and Rial.

I disagree. If Vic goes after Marchi and Rial for conspiracy and defamation then surely their hand will be forced to terminate them too.

If Funimation genuinely believe that these two contracted employees have unjustly lampooned them into shelling out 6-7 digits to proclaim their innocence, I don't think they'll want to keep them around.

On the other hand, if Funi are trying to worm their way out of responsibility (they are) then perhaps there's info that ties them to conspiracy they don't want getting out. It's a gamble. Would they fire Marchi and Rial even if one or both of them are found guilty? I'm not so sure.

 

[diskboomer]

Seems Funi are throwing the other defendants to the wolves. An interesting turn of events.

Vic can't accuse Funi of defamation and/or conspiracy if he uses their affidavit against Rial + Marchi. He either ignores this and attempts to argue that they WERE implying he was guilty, or sacrifices his proceedings on Funi to use their affidavit.

It also implies Rial and Marchi have done nothing but lie under oath.

Not entirely, remember the TDMA letters? If Funi truly didn’t mean to defame Vic with the tweets, they would have issued either a public clarification, or pulled them down.

They‘ve had months, and until the affidavits never once countered the narrative from the other defendants.

 

[Yuusha-sama]

Seems Funi are throwing the other defendants to the wolves. An interesting turn of events.

Vic can't accuse Funi of defamation and/or conspiracy if he uses their affidavit against Rial + Marchi. He either ignores this and attempts to argue that they WERE implying he was guilty, or sacrifices his proceedings on Funi to use their affidavit.

It also implies Rial and Marchi have done nothing but lie under oath.

Tbh, I'd rather have Vic proceed to only sue Funimation than have him only sue Marchi and Rial. Fuck Funi.

Also, him winning a lawsuit against Marchi and Rial would mean Funimation gets away scot-free, while him winning against Funimation alone would also automatically affect Marchi and Rial.

Nah, Funi is still fucked.
People implied that Vic is a sexual harasser etc. because of Funi's statement.
KV has used Funi's tweets as evidence of Vic's guilt, including the defendants.
Why has Vic to sue Funimation first to clarify these statements.
Funimation had at least 2 months to do so.
Why did they wait until they got sued?

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

Funimation had at least 2 months to do so.
Why did they wait until they got sued?

Because they are still in conflict between a personal vendetta of their VAs or to simply throw them under the bus.
Especially if one said VA has monetary investment in FUNimation.

 

[diskboomer]

Because they are still in conflict between a personal vendetta of their VAs or to simply throw them under the bus.
Especially if one said VA has monetary investment in FUNimation.

Funi still under the TDMA, haven’t issued a clarification, or removal of the defamatory tweets. This conflicts with their own affidavit.

Can’t say they didn’t mean to defame him, and then not comply with the Texas Defamation Mitigation Act, and keep them up, while allowing the negative narrative to spread.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Not entirely, remember the TDMA letters? If Funi truly didn’t mean to defame Vic with the tweets, they would have issues either a public clarification, or pulled them down.

They‘ve had months, and until the affidavits never once countered the narrative from the other defendants.

Nah, Funi is still fucked.
People implied that Vic is a sexual harasser etc. because of Funi's statement.
KV has used Funi's tweets as evidence of Vic's guilt, including the defendants.
Why has Vic to sue Funimation first to clarify these statements.
Funimation had at least 2 months to do so.
Why did they wait until they got sued?

Because they are still in conflict between a personal vendetta of their VAs or to simply throw them under the bus.
Especially if one said VA has monetary investment in FUNimation.

Funi still under the TDMA, haven’t issues a clarification, or removal of the defamatory tweets. This conflicts with their own affidavit.

Can’t say they didn’t mean to defame him, and then not comply with the Texas Defamation Mitigation Act, and keep them up, while allowing the negative narrative to spread.

This is why I say that whoever’s running Funimation in this lawsuit is as KV as the VAs, But are smart enough to not broadcast it. We mention that they haven’t clarified or retracted, but what if they’re actually doubling down?

 

[SpiralStars]

Nah, Funi is still fucked.
People implied that Vic is a sexual harasser etc. because of Funi's statement.
KV has used Funi's tweets as evidence of Vic's guilt, including the defendants.
Why has Vic to sue Funimation first to clarify these statements.
Funimation had at least 2 months to do so.
Why did they wait until they got sued?

Even if Funi skates on directly defaming them. The Payment issue may create a stronger link to Moronica than the contractor claim. Nick hinted at something before the payment issue appeared in court documents. So they at least know more and maybe can prove more.

Use Funi to show the rest to be liars. Also show Funi is acting like an employer or even a supporter of Moronica in their lawsuit. Funi is now accountable for the actions of their employees who they just called liars. They now all look like liars and they all are still in the stew except possibly Marchi.

**whew lad. Talk about getting too far ahead of the plot, though, I must admit.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

I think Funimation has that out there just so they can side with whoever "wins" the lawsuit without having to take responsibility for the shit show they started. It's a very grey area. A smart move on paper but considering this is anime dubbing we're discussing it'll make fans have an autistic shit fit because the speds want a solid answer about whether Vic is trustworthy or not.

But it's a smart tactic for now. They don't wanna put their eggs in the wrong basket.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I think Funimation has that out there just so they can side with whoever "wins" the lawsuit without having to take responsibility for the shit show they started. It's a very grey area. A smart move on paper but considering this is anime dubbing we're discussing it'll make fans have an autistic shit fit because the speds want a solid answer about whether Vic is trustworthy or not.

But it's a smart tactic for now. They don't wanna put their eggs in the wrong basket.

I still think they want Vic in the ground but won’t say it out loud.

 

[king of pickles]

Funimation is stained anyways but mostly I would want Rial, Soye and Marchi in the gutter.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

I still think they want Vic in the ground but won’t say it out loud.

Of course they do. But if it turns out Vic is gonna prevail they wanna make a clean break from the lawsuit and that means playing it safe.

They're not going to openly admit their true stance on any of this because it means someone is getting thrown under the bus.

 

[Garm]

Well, the transcript is 35 pages long (for the transcript part itself).
Martinez talked an approximative amount of 10 pages, the other 25 pages are Chupp going back and forth with Lemoine on his own.
I don't know if it implies what you said, or if Chupp was simply confused by Lemoine's stupidity.

EDIT: The conversation pattern between the two of them is also very different by the way.
Martinez made monolitic statements with Chupp just listening quietly, while Lemoine was constantly interrupted by Chupp with questions.

2nd theory. Some people just rub Chupp the wrong way. Ty is the most obvious, but he cut Lemoine off there as well. He liked the other representation, especially Marchi's. Now that Lemoine caused him the most work, he's getting his attention and resistence. Ty may have found someone Chupp likes or guessed he'd like after figuring this out or just got lucky . Tolerates may be a better word than like.

This is why I can't decide if Chupp is an idiot or a bureaucrat. Chupp writes bullshit judgements but then every once in a while he gets a glimmer in his eye and does something reasonable.

Somebody reviewed Chupp on a judge review site and said "the defendants didn't even show up." So he has a history.

Anyway, The Broken staircase. Is there an official KickVic line on why that isn't proceeding? If they were cleaning up the anime industry why should a lawsuit deter them? Vic has supposedly lost his lawsuit so they should be able to move forward.

Unless Monica and Jamie were integral to support the next phase and now their credibility is damaged. (I'm guessing Kara Edwards would be next up to make claims.)

Or the anime community is far more divided than they show and no one is trusting each other.

Edit: I haven't watched the video yet but why would Funimation settle now? They went this far, probably banned Vic from working there ever again, just to turn around and say "JK guys!"

Although I hope this is true but it is too late to get Vic his job back. (Still salty about Qrow.)

 

[diskboomer]

Lawtwatter is breeding, and the people are getting more exceptional.
The fuck does he mean, this is what the TCPA is for? It’s there to harm people? Hmm

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[HighwayStar]

Of course they do. But if it turns out Vic is gonna prevail they wanna make a clean break from the lawsuit and that means playing it safe.



They're not going to openly admit their true stance on any of this because it means someone is getting thrown under the bus.

No matter the outcome, Funimation is pretty much damaged goods in the eyes of many sensible anime fans. Funimation had ample attempts to settle this and avoid the PR headache and they blew it. The way they conducted themselves and their voice actors the past year proves that they are a shady company that treat their fans and VA’s they don’t like like absolute shit. The fact that the company sent an order yesterday requesting the court to deny Vic’s continuance of the 11-21 hearing proves it.

Although I don’t feel bad for Funimation, I do feel bad for those who either tried to stay quiet, or wanted nothing to do with the drama and were forced into it. As far as I’m concerned, they and Vic are the true victims of this because now this dark cloud is going to linger over their heads for a long time. Unless they pull a Jefferson Smith and become whistleblowers.

Unless Monica and Jamie were integral to support the next phase and now their credibility is damaged. (I'm guessing Kara Edwards would be next up to make claims.)

Or the anime community is far more divided than they show and no one is trusting each other.

If there’s one good thing that came out of this mess, it’s that we now know that VA’s are just as capable of hating each other as actors in Hollywood. If they can stab Vic in the back, they can do this to anybody. In addition, whatever they post and like on Twitter shouldn’t be taken with face value, because what if they liked those tweets to save face? Remember, they all spoke glowingly about Vic on Twitter and look what happened. Don’t think there aren’t VA’s who are pretending to be nice to each other on Twitter, but in fact despise one another in real life.

And then there’s Nick Rekieta stating multiple times that there are VA’s in the industry and in Funimation who support Vic and hate the clique and are secretly sending him and Vic’s attorney information. What I would do to turn into a fly and buzz around in Funimation HQ to see what goes on behind the scenes.