💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[LuNaS]

Not sure if it’s a cultural thing, but I think that’s why that Nozawa lady is loved more than Schemmel. I remember people being REALLY sad when Bulma’s Japanese VA passed, but Monica is seen as someone to just throw aside.

I can confirm it's a cultural thing, in USA Voice Dubbing actors are really unimportant most of the time, only getting recognition from a small group of fans. In some cases the actors may get particular recognition if the role is really big or if the actor is big before hand but those are the outliers.

As a comparison, in Mexico most dubbing actors are only known to fans of the series they voice with some notable exceptions, the big voices of the big animes and movies are fairly well known and very respected, to the point where changing the guy who sings the opening song results in some backlash online.

Also these dubbing actors often go to talk shows.

The voice actors for Dragon Ball Z in Mexico have an almost legendary status, and they are very friendly and kind to fans.


Essentially Vic is a lot like the Voice actors in México, including the devout fans and the big personality. Voice actors in Japan have more recognition being essentially the characters, both in the public eyes and in the media.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

We don't need to create a spreadsheet because they self identify as deranged cunts

I'd love for someone to use their stupid little spiel against them. They're at the point where they think they're untouchable so they'll continue to do dumb shit until they've buried themselves. It's hilarious.

 

[Jamestyalor4312]

Next week? Teasing it this early isn't that cash money of you Nick..

Nick hasn't disappointed yet I got faith in him. Jamie is dancing around like she's untouchable now. Seems like she doesn't know she can be brought back into this shit. She's walking to first base thinking things are a home run when it might be a fly ball.

 

[Allanon]

japanese anime fans are fucking ludicrous at times. there was a scandal and firing of a VA because fans found out that she had a boyfriend. "how dare the voice of muh waifu not be a perfect untouched virgin angel. blacklist her from ever working again"

i think they share a lot in common with these cancel culture people.

That reminds me of the time random otakus had actual mental breakdowns and burned their mangas in a blind rage because some thousand year old loli character turned out to have had a previous relationship, so they despised her for being 'defiled and disgusting'. Waifu otaku are pretty embarrassing to even look at.

I think the model was assaulted and reported the incident and apologized for it. Me too should be helping women like that instead of lairs like lial and marchi.

Japan has actually toxic cultural standards and laws. Like for example: if you have a stalker and so much as acknowledge them even once, you're considered 'at fault' if anything happens to you. You're supposed to ignore them, and any kind of interaction is considered encouraging them, thus laying the blame on you. Instead of addressing that kind of nonsense, though, anime SJWs would rather be angry that a VA won't sign their porn and might touch their hair.

 

[TheClappening]

The reason cancel culture has far as it's gone is because they haven't gone after anyone that gives zero fucks.

Have you seen his pants. If he gives zero fucks about those mind boggling garments, he gives no fucks about anything else.

It's comparable from my understanding but their fanbases are....something else.
They really do equate the actor with the voice. Aya Hirano got into a few scandals back in the day and people over there went full chimp, burning merch and shit because how dare she.

Wasn't she the chick who got caught in a porno or something?

Nicks grandfathers will that people are talking about on Twitter.

Louis Owen Will.pdf

drive.google.com

Can we stop for a moment and talk about how Nick's uncle is literally Kermit.

Has Nick ever really talked in depth about what he does as an actual lawyer? I only remember him giving bits and pieces in streams and now tweets.

He's basically a swiss army lawyer. Does a little bit of everything. Criminal defense, drawing up contracts, drafting wills, etc.

 

[I can't imagine]

Has Nick ever really talked in depth about what he does as an actual lawyer? I only remember him giving bits and pieces in streams and now tweets.

I think he's only ever talked in generalities, but he's not exactly in a bustling metropolis, so he probably gets asked to do all kinds of things. He's talked about everything from family court to estate planning, so I'd guess he's pretty equal opportunity.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Nick shouldn't blue ball like that. Put up or shut up.

If you're gonna tease deliver while the plate is still hot.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Wyświetl załącznik 932863
This is the most devastating thing to happen on 9/11 in 18 years.

You just know she's sitting back snapping her suspenders thinking 'man.....that was a sick burn. wait til the other kids see it' while tossing down cans of sardines.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Wyświetl załącznik 932863
This is the most devastating thing to happen on 9/11 in 18 years.

I know you're joking, but at the same time, NAH.

Shoot Blues, Tell Vile Rat. o7

Nick shouldn't blue ball like that. Put up or shut up.

If you're gonna tease deliver while the plate is still hot.

Well, if he's waiting on it, it's probably out of his hands -- and announcing it early might give certain people time to react. People that definitely don't deserve the courtesy.

Or think about it in practical terms -- the surprise will cause an unimaginable amount of assmad and sperging from KV and Law Twitter, no matter what it is.

 

[LuNaS]

Ok, wanted to say a few more things about Mexican dubs, to exemplify how low is the status of dubbers in USA in comparison. First, pay.

According to some interviews Mexican dubs pay about 5$ per "Loop" loops being recordings of 25 words, thereabouts 15 seconds. This for movies for cinemas for TV the rates are lower.

As an example for one Movie actor Mario Arvizu worked 7 hours which resulted in 285 Loops, that makes 1425$ for a 7 hour workday.

Anyone who can tell me how that compares with USA dub actors would be appreciated.

Second, Voice actors are not limited to one genre or media.

This I feel is a another reason for why in México dub actors are more respected than in USA. As a few examples Woody from Toy Story, Piccolo from DBZ and Alf AKA Gordon Shumway are voiced by the same guy.

Bruce Willis in almost all his movies is Voiced by the guy who voices Goku who also voices the narrator in The Wonder Years.

This I feel is a notable distinction from USA where apparently dub actors are segregated depending on the media they dub. Just food for thought because I find it interesting how dub actors in USA have a fairly low status compared to other countries.

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

http://archive.is/pgsaB

 

[ItalianMobStripper]

Wyświetl załącznik 932299
Fuck they are so stupid

at least try to spell nick's surname right

god these people still believe that nick is vic's lawyer.

Funny those humorless people brag abut someone else not catching the drift.

But also, I don't think they misspelled Nick's surname. It's done on purpose, remember Nick Riviera, the hack medical practitioner from The Simpsons?
I think I don't need to explain the joke further

Isn't that a tranny or something?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XbYfSbyOFbgYeah I'm gonna need some eye wash

While I often joke about this, man... It's so uncanny that all these people look so fucking alike. I get that same minded individuals get together, but gee... This unironically creeps me out

japanese anime fans are fucking ludicrous at times. there was a scandal and firing of a VA because fans found out that she had a boyfriend. "how dare the voice of muh waifu not be a perfect untouched virgin angel. blacklist her from ever working again"

i think they share a lot in common with these cancel culture people.

I wouldn't say this is exclusive to anime fans. See Justin Bieber fans, or Tom Holland stans. They're obsessive people with an unhealthy invenstment into their hobby

That reminds me of the time random otakus had actual mental breakdowns and burned their mangas in a blind rage because some thousand year old loli character turned out to have had a previous relationship, so they despised her for being 'defiled and disgusting'. Waifu otaku are pretty embarrassing to even look at.

A lot of shut-in people are the worst. They are so devoid of what's fiction and what's real, that they can go near psychotic once their delusions get challenged

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Second, Voice actors are not limited to one genre or media.

This I feel is a another reason for why in México dub actors are more respected than in USA. As a few examples Woody from Toy Story, Piccolo from DBZ and Alf AKA Gordon Shumway are voiced by the same guy.

Bruce Willis in almost all his movies is Voiced by the guy who voices Goku who also voices the narrator in The Wonder Years.

This I feel is a notable distinction from USA where apparently dub actors are segregated depending on the media they dub. Just food for thought because I find it interesting how dub actors in USA have a fairly low status compared to other countries.

Does Mexico have unions? I think that's the biggest difference between American voice-acting and the rest of the world's. A lot of anime dubbing is non-union, which is part of the reason why their pay is so low but also they're done by licensing companies that have to guarantee they'll turn a profit on DVD sales/broadcast ratings on the anime they've licensed. Thus far, the only one that was able to guarantee good pay to their voice actors was 4KIDS, but that was a huge company with subsidiaries compared to Viz and Funimation. Once a voice-actor joins the union (Screen Actor's Guild or otherwise), they can only do union work or whatever their agency is okay signing off on (or if the licencee is okay to pay the talent what's stated in their contract).

 

[Bullshit Fucked]

That reminds me of the time random otakus had actual mental breakdowns and burned their mangas in a blind rage

Two words.

Endless Eight.

 

[Bender]

This is the most devastating thing to happen on 9/11 in 18 years.

Well holy shit I didn't even notice it was 9/11.

 

[ItalianMobStripper]

Does Mexico have unions? I think that's the biggest difference between American voice-acting and the rest of the world's. A lot of anime dubbing is non-union, which is part of the reason why their pay is so low but also they're done by licensing companies that have to guarantee they'll turn a profit on DVD sales/broadcast ratings on the anime they've licensed. Thus far, the only one that was able to guarantee good pay to their voice actors was 4KIDS, but that was a huge company with subsidiaries compared to Viz and Funimation. Once a voice-actor joins the union (Screen Actor's Guild or otherwise), they can only do union work or whatever their agency is okay signing off on (or if the licencee is okay to pay the talent what's stated in their contract).

Yes, it does. At the very least, México has 2 unions for dub actors (one of them being, the ANDA, the "Asociación Nacional de Actores" meaning National Association of Actors. That also means they're of the same worth as screen actors)

 

[Random Internet Person]

You just know she's sitting back snapping her suspenders thinking 'man.....that was a sick burn. wait til the other kids see it' while tossing down cans of sardines.

Don't diss sardines like that! Those things are cheap and great when paired with some rice and hot sauce. Or on craackers.

That reminds me of the time random otakus had actual mental breakdowns and burned their mangas in a blind rage because some thousand year old loli character turned out to have had a previous relationship, so they despised her for being 'defiled and disgusting'. Waifu otaku are pretty embarrassing to even look at.

I just remember people on this side of the Pacific bitching after Naruto and then Bleach ended because ships. Kishimoto's assistant IIRC tweeted in English to respect the ending Kishimoto made.

 

[ItalianMobStripper]

I just remember people on this side of the Pacific bitching after Naruto and then Bleach ended because ships. Kishimoto's assistant IIRC tweeted in English to respect the ending Kishimoto made.

Obsessive shippers ruined ships and shipping. Now you can't have two characters on-screen with a little bit of chemistry without a degenerate wanting them to bump already

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Don't diss sardines like that! Those things are cheap and great when paired with some rice and hot sauce. Or on craackers.


I just remember people on this side of the Pacific bitching after Naruto and then Bleach ended because ships. Kishimoto's assistant IIRC tweeted in English to respect the ending Kishimoto made.

I thought Bleach was cancelled before Naruto ended. And I don't recall there being any ship canonizing in Bleach.

 

[ItalianMobStripper]

I thought Bleach was cancelled before Naruto ended. And I don't recall there being any ship canonizing in Bleach.

It wasn't cancelled per se, it was given around 3-5 more chapters to wrap up the story.
iirc Ichigo ended up with Orihime