🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

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The current status quo is to change the fandom to a number of things according to whatever vocal mouthpiece has to say, either it's a safe space for LGBTQ or keeping furry weird to avoid being mainstream cause they know the media has torn them a new one ever since their conception.
It's less the media tearing us a new one and more the dilution of the fandom. If you thought Eternal September was bad for the internet as a whole, imagine how retarded it'll be once it happens in the furry fandom.

On the std thing.
Reminder that bug chasers are a thing. And want nothing more than to forcefully infect you with stds

Oh fuck, I feel like I'm dying if I wake up in the middle of the night with a tummy ache because I ate something bad, I can't imagine why those bozos would want to intentionally give themselves aids or whatever
 
The current status quo is to change the fandom to a number of things according to whatever vocal mouthpiece has to say, either it's a safe space for LGBTQ or keeping furry weird to avoid being mainstream cause they know the media has torn them a new one ever since their conception.
i mean you have people shaming others for scorning idiots with STD/STI, like having genital herpes is ok because some folks get cold sores.
 
Oh fuck, I feel like I'm dying if I wake up in the middle of the night with a tummy ache because I ate something bad, I can't imagine why those bozos would want to intentionally give themselves aids or whatever
Bug chasers have been a thing since the Aids scare in the 80s. There have been a lot of them in the gay community. I wonder if it's something like a slow suicide.
 
Bug chasers have been a thing since the Aids scare in the 80s. There have been a lot of them in the gay community. I wonder if it's something like a slow suicide.
I'd say it's probably more of a combination between not separating fetishes from acceptable behaviour offline and the link between infection being conflated with the primal desire to "claim" sexual partners. Basically, they've got a mental link forged between infection and impregnation.
 
Bug chasers have been a thing since the Aids scare in the 80s. There have been a lot of them in the gay community. I wonder if it's something like a slow suicide.

Its all about sympathy. It shocked me when I first heard about it, but there are people that just want sympathy and to be taken care of. When AIDS bevame wide spread knowledge and you saw people on TV talking about taking care of loved ones, it triggered something in a certain group that wanted that kind of attention. They didn't care if they died, they just wanted that attention.
 
Its all about sympathy. It shocked me when I first heard about it, but there are people that just want sympathy and to be taken care of. When AIDS bevame wide spread knowledge and you saw people on TV talking about taking care of loved ones, it triggered something in a certain group that wanted that kind of attention. They didn't care if they died, they just wanted that attention.
There's also the gays who actually fetishize it and think of bug chasing as the only way a gay man can essentially 'impregnate' another gay man. You're giving them something of yours they'll never get rid of, and are 'marked' from then on. It's the reason a lot of them get Biohazard tattoos to prove they're POZ and part of the breeder club.
 
https://twitter.com/atypicaldragon/status/1160067839212044290 some dude died and the guy decided to share his last porn with everyone
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Thankfully, other furries weren't having it.
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If this fandom wasn't about porn, then those of us who just like drawing animal people could actually earn a decent rate off of clean artwork. But the fact of the matter is, is that furries are a fetish first and foremost, not a fun genre to engage with.

An absolutely honest word of advice towards anyone who likes drawing anthros; avoid the fandom, classify your characters as sci-fi or fantasy, and spare yourself from the drama or the associations. And sure, there will be people who will call your work "furry", but as long as you keep focusing on a larger body of work and give those character/species a place to exist and shit, like the sky is your limit.

Just avoid the fandom lest your characters become nothing more than fap material.
 
One hot take after another.

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Thankfully, other furries weren't having it.
A person who conflates zoophilia with having a strong emotional bond with an animal and victimizes self so hard is 100% a zoophile.
 
It is kinda funny how much money can be made. SNES-level pixel art goes from 30-80usd, ref sheets go from 60-400usd, and a full blown painting can be like buying a car. The art doesn't even have to be that good skill-wise. Just gotta be able to stomach the content and niche things can drive the price even higher. Folks will pay 60 bucks for a 100x100 profile pic.
 
If this fandom wasn't about porn, then those of us who just like drawing animal people could actually earn a decent rate off of clean artwork. But the fact of the matter is, is that furries are a fetish first and foremost, not a fun genre to engage with.

An absolutely honest word of advice towards anyone who likes drawing anthros; avoid the fandom, classify your characters as sci-fi or fantasy, and spare yourself from the drama or the associations. And sure, there will be people who will call your work "furry", but as long as you keep focusing on a larger body of work and give those character/species a place to exist and shit, like the sky is your limit.

Just avoid the fandom lest your characters become nothing more than fap material.

I forgot who, but someone earlier in this thread made the claim that part of the reason "clean art" doesn't sell as well is that it's just not that good. Yeah yeah yeah there's the whole "sex sells" thing but art that's not NSFW is going to be looked at in a different mood y'know?

I mean shoot, furries interviewed for a Crack'd article on fur porn said they did porn because "it's easier." I mean, aside from the sex sells aspect of it. You can get away with more shit in porn art because people are thinking and appraising with their dicks and not with their eyes and brain.
 
If this fandom wasn't about porn, then those of us who just like drawing animal people could actually earn a decent rate off of clean artwork. But the fact of the matter is, is that furries are a fetish first and foremost, not a fun genre to engage with.

An absolutely honest word of advice towards anyone who likes drawing anthros; avoid the fandom, classify your characters as sci-fi or fantasy, and spare yourself from the drama or the associations. And sure, there will be people who will call your work "furry", but as long as you keep focusing on a larger body of work and give those character/species a place to exist and shit, like the sky is your limit.

Just avoid the fandom lest your characters become nothing more than fap material.
The furry fandom is a mixed bag money making wise. On one hand there's money to be made from commissions, on the other hand the fandom can be a weird place to get customers from. Then there's the reputation aspect of it, there are oldfag stories that artists were denied jobs for being furries as their jobs/future employers found out. With Rebecca Sugar and Newgrounds pr0n animators going on to work in the business however, that's not as much of an issue as it was.

But the furry fandom is also loaded with drama and still has the shittiest reputation of any major fandom/hobby, outside of groups that are blatantly fetish only with no plausible deniability. Anyone who is sane will look at the furry fandom and ask "do I want to associate with these people?" On the other hand furries will eat up content produced by non-furries or furries who deny it so it's not like you even need to be a furry for them to eat up anything you make. It won't stop them from drawing porn of your characters, but you won't get dragged down with them.

I forgot who, but someone earlier in this thread made the claim that part of the reason "clean art" doesn't sell as well is that it's just not that good. Yeah yeah yeah there's the whole "sex sells" thing but art that's not NSFW is going to be looked at in a different mood y'know?

I mean shoot, furries interviewed for a Crack'd article on fur porn said they did porn because "it's easier." I mean, aside from the sex sells aspect of it. You can get away with more shit in porn art because people are thinking and appraising with their dicks and not with their eyes and brain.
I've mentioned that quite a bit because anyone who has spent enough time around the internet art scene knows that's a common fact. To get noticed with "clean art" you need to pour hours if not days into your art, and you need to have talent. Even if you take the easy way out and draw fanart it has to be a certain quality. Furry clean art never gets noticed unless it's fanart or said furry has a job in the industry/has made something people care about.

Draw porn and the art can be mediocre or have extremely blatant technical errors, and it'll get a free pass because it arouses furries. It's also why the term "wasted talent" pops up around here when referring to artists with lots of technical skill who draw porn. But there's also the fact that with porn there's mad money to be made. As the Patreon business model has shown, you can draw the porn you want and furries will throw money at you monthly.
 
Drawing exclusively furry porn is essentially like getting an Epic Store exclusively deal; it puts food on the table and for some people thats good enough. The worst kind of furry is a horny furry for various reasons, but the most annoying one in my opinion is how much they wreck house in their own fandom. Yes the fandom itself is routed directly in porn but they really had every chance to branch out from said roots and establish themselves as more than that.

But instead their primal urge to smash (and maybe a bit of how lonely and awkward a lot of the fetish-loving ones tend to get) got the better than them, and now you can literally make similar earrnings to a fulltime job by drawing nothing but red rockets and donut holes. Unless you have a really creative style or get lucky, most SFW artists are screwed. You can argue though that this is just the nature of how the internet works, since even shipping artwork on DeviantArt (and shipping culture in general) always outpreformed any other types of artwork even if its just some crudly drawn MSPaint base art.

The only decent way to make money off this fandom anymore is fursuit making. But that requires a lot of skill, money and dedication to get started up. Even then your first few suits are gonna be so shitty, they'd make for better bonfire material than costume, so its a lot of frustrating work and dedication to even get into a position of making money off it. Once you get there though it feels a lot better than selling your soul to the horny.
 
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