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💬 Off-TopicCritical Discussion of Trannies and Pedophilia
Troon Patrol:
I disagree with you on one teeny point; I do see my fellow The Gays™ pushing for more "rights" that have allowed scumbags like Yaniv to run free like a maniac. Most of these "more rights" nonsense is heavily based in the "non-binary" bullshit. You know, human gender is "fluid" and people can 'feel" more than just male or female. Plus, they are crying very loudly over real trans gender issues that are either imaginary (a systematic oppression) or pushing for trannies to participate in sports and...be allowed in locker rooms and bathrooms of the gender they feel like being in. This is why Yaniv is allowed to run amok.
Y'know we have a term for non trans people pretending to be trans for social clout, we call it a Transtrender.
I think we should make up a new name for people who instead use trans identity to prey on women and kids.
I suggest we adopt the phrase we-fucking-told-you-this-shit-would-happen-you-fucking-morons.
Troons and SJWs highjacking the term "intersectional feminism" which was originally supposed to mean "let's not forget our most vulnerable such as non-white, disabled, or non-Western women." The loons now take it to mean "feminism should champion every cause and as long as women check their privilege and don't rock the boat we'll maybe allow them a voice."
Thanks to the Oppression Olympics people have convinced themselves that a straight white rich man in a first world country with a fetish is more of a victim than a child bride facing female genital mutilation in the Middle East because "cis privilege". It's pretty fucked.
Troons and SJWs highjacking the term "intersectional feminism" which was originally supposed to mean "let's not forget our most vulnerable such as non-white, disabled, or non-Western women." The loons now take it to mean "feminism should champion every cause and as long as women check their privilege and don't rock the boat we'll maybe allow them a voice."
Thanks to the Oppression Olympics people have convinced themselves that a straight white rich man in a first world country with a fetish is more of a victim than a child bride facing female genital mutilation in the Middle East because "cis privilege". It's pretty fucked.
They didn’t so much hijack the term as they took the logical consequences of it to the extreme.
And you can’t just see “intersectional feminism” in isolation from its roots in Cultural Marxism. It’s all connected, and it’s all garbage.
(The woke crowd has tried to link “Cultural Marxism” with antisemitism and kooky conspiracy theories, and this is of course also nonsense.)
The problem with Cultural Marxism is that it tries to explain society with the same concepts that Marxists originally used to explain economic systems.
The same dichotomy of “oppressed people” vs. “oppressors”, the same way of viewing people not as individuals but as classes with similar goals and interests. The same fetishization of the “oppressed” and insistence on revolutionary (often violent) solutions, etc.
I think people like Yaniv are a useful, for a good number of people on the right of the political spectrum would very much believe most trannies are like in both appearance and behaviour. He's been a god send for right wing political sphere online because this perfectly highlights the dangers of enabling this behaviour to the extremes that the fucking leafs have. I don't think all trannies are predatory in nature but I do think that of autogynephiles who do fit into the category of transsexuals.
The overall issue as I see it is that you cannot negotiate with the mentally ill as they are never willing to compromise, if they were true and honestly sane as many claim then they would have the foresight to see the potential problems of predators amongst their number endangering the safety of young women. But you can't negotiate with the mentally ill, all trannies that I have ever interacted with or encountered online are selfish, even if they do not mean to be. Their poor mental health drives them to seek personal validation for their own mental well being over the potential risks their actions incur to others. If in their mania they believe that something as trivial as bathrooms affirms their gender identity, then they wont compromise because every bit of enabling and validation confirms they don't need help.
They didn’t so much hijack the term as they took the logical consequences of it to the extreme.
And you can’t just see “intersectional feminism” in isolation from its roots in Cultural Marxism. It’s all connected, and it’s all garbage.
(The woke crowd has tried to link “Cultural Marxism” with antisemitism and kooky conspiracy theories, and this is of course also nonsense.)
The problem with Cultural Marxism is that it tries to explain society with the same concepts that Marxists originally used to explain economic systems.
The same dichotomy of “oppressed people” vs. “oppressors”, the same way of viewing people not as individuals but as classes with similar goals and interests. The same fetishization of the “oppressed” and insistence on revolutionary (often violent) solutions, etc.
That's the problem with any ideology. It will be taken to the extreme by zealots and malcontents. Social Media has allowed an us vs them, black and white narrative for all groups. Politics are getting less and less nuanced under the influence of screeching people on all sides. It's left a lot of people who aren't wed to one group feeling isolated and confused because the former outliers and weirdos are now given a voice and influence.
(The woke crowd has tried to link “Cultural Marxism” with antisemitism and kooky conspiracy theories, and this is of course also nonsense.)
The problem with Cultural Marxism is that it tries to explain society with the same concepts that Marxists originally used to explain economic systems.
The same dichotomy of “oppressed people” vs. “oppressors”, the same way of viewing people not as individuals but as classes with similar goals and interests. The same fetishization of the “oppressed” and insistence on revolutionary (often violent) solutions, etc.
This feels like a retconning of "Cultural Marxism", which is a term literally coined by a dude who is every bit as loony in his own right as JY, and who has his own thread here at the farms. His original musings had nothing to do with systems of oppression and oppressors and everything to do with people forcing kids to turn gay and listen to rock music.
I think people like Yaniv are a useful for a good number of people on the right of the political spectrum would very much believe most trannies are like in both appearance and behaviour. He's been a god send for right wing political sphere online because this perfectly highlights the dangers of enabling this behaviour to the extremes that the fucking leafs have. I don't think all trannies are predatory in nature but I do think that of autogynephiles who do fit into the category of transsexuals.
The overall issue as I see it is that you cannot negotiate with the mentally ill as they are never willing to compromise, if they were true and honestly sane as many claim then they would have the foresight to see the potential problems of predators amongst their number endangering the safety of young women. But you can't negotiate with the mentally ill, all trannies that I have ever interacted with or encountered online are selfish, even if they do not mean to be. Their poor mental health drives them to seek personal validation for their own mental well being over the potential risks their actions incur to others. If in their mania they believe that something as trivial as bathrooms affirms their gender identity, then they wont compromise because every bit of enabling and validation confirms they don't need help.
That's the problem with any ideology. It will be taken to the extreme by zealots and malcontents. Social Media has allowed an us vs them, black and white narrative for all groups. Politics are getting less and less nuanced under the influence of screeching people on all sides. It's left a lot of people who aren't wed to one group feeling isolated and confused because the former outliers and weirdos are now given a voice and influence.
It’s a bigger issue here than with any other ideology, because Cultural Marxists (we could also call it critical theory) have been very good at manipulating language and premises.
Take for example the phrase: “Racism is bad!” That’s something both a paleo Conservative and a SocialDemocrat understand and can agree on.
Enter Critical Theory and their bizarro definitions, and suddenly left is right, up is down and bringing up the fact that “racism is bad” has to do with “power structures” and “white supremacy”.
Critical theory is of course for the most part pseudo intellectual garbage, that begins to fall apart as soon as you remove it from the framework of American academia, where it to a large degree has developed and metastasized.
(If the institution of police is racist and mostly exists to reinforce white supremacy, then what about police in Nigeria? And if “representation is important” does that mean that it’s racist when the minority white population in Namibia doesn’t find themselves represented in media?)
This feels like a retconning of "Cultural Marxism", which is a term literally coined by a dude who is every bit as loony in his own right as JY, and who has his own thread here at the farms. His original musings had nothing to do with systems of oppression and oppressors and everything to do with people forcing kids to turn gay and listen to rock music.
Nope, not a retcon. Even though Cultural Marxism (also known as the Frankfurt School) is hard to pin down and has been abused by both the far left and the far right, it does exist independent of looney tunes conspiracy theories. (And independent of leftists handwaving it away and pretending it’s just some sort of Nazi boogeyman.)
Last week I did one of my routine exercises in my Marxism course at Grove City College. In that class,...
spectator.org
TLDR: Cultural Marxism can best be explained as Marxism as applied to culture and cultural systems, as opposed to economy. The same dichotomy of oppressor vs the oppressed, interpreting the world in terms of classes as opposed to individuals, etc.
I don't think transgender people are a "protected class" whatsoever. Anyways, we aren't here dealing with a transgender person or a matter of trans rights. We are dealing with a pedophile racist man who is posing as a transgender woman as a tactic to escape his inceldom.
edit to avoid double post: Is Yaniv even considered transgender by his standards? I hear a lot of stuff about him using being intersex as an excuse in the tribunal as well. Not that that matters as his primarily functioning genitalia is his hairy dick and balls.
I'm late to reply, he is a representative of the trans community whether you want to believe it or not, a very successful one.
He may be everything else as well but that doesn't override the fact that he has been put on a 'pedostal' by so many for so long, it's only now thanks to his failed attempts to be the lead on the right side of history, that suddenly he's 'not really trans', what bullshit!
The intersex ploy is only recent as far as I know, used because people have stopped taking him so seriously and he's finally starting to be mocked and judged for what most sane people have always known. Intersex is something to be taken very seriously.
The other issue that needs to be addressed is the way that the definitions and criteria of words and diagnosis is being corrupted. I have no issue with changes that need to happen, but when those definitions are just thrown out completely and replaced with irrelevant meaning, and no one says a word, that is when this trend needs to come under fire.
It wouldn't surprise me if there is a rising trend amongst men who call themselves trans, who are attracted to women (you know the criteria for gender dysphoria says mens are attracted to other men), and play at being men one day and 'women' the next, call themselves intersex. Their stand being that they are both, therefore they have a 'right' to label themselves as intersex.
WRONG
It wasn't removed from the DSM5, it was removed from the ICD11.
In the DSM5 the name was changed, Gender Identity Disorder to Gender Dysphoria.
In the ICD11 it has been removed completely and is now a 'sexual health' issue, and not a disorder.
*If someone else addressed this I'll change it when I get up to the comment.
So... Good news: If we let deviants dress up as little girls, maybe they won’t rape little girls?
(There’s nothing that makes me cringe harder and reach for my Browning more, than seeing a grown man dress up as a dainty little girl. I’ve noticed a similar reaction in many other people, and I assume that, aside from how unnatural it is, that the strong reaction is caused by the presumption that these creeps wants to fuck little dainty girls. Interesting to see research confirm that.)
Unfortunately research into anything that even resembles autogynophilia is tabu and outright dangerous for a psychologists career prospects, since it’s “transphobic”.
The answer to why simple research can be so controversial is simple: Remember the story of the Emperor with no clothes? Psychologists who study autogynophilia are the little boy in the story. Except in this case, they’re yelling out: “That’s not gender dysphoria, they’re just getting off on this shit!”
(Not to say that actual gender dysphoria doesn’t actually exist. It’s jusy very rare.)
Something I haven’t seen fully discussed is the business side of troonery— the profits made by the medical and pharmaceutical industries off of “gender dysphoria”.
I’m not a conspiracy person (famous last words, I know) and believe that Hanlon’s razor is generally at the root of most things considered shadowy and conspiratorial. But there is money to be made from troonery, that much is clear.
Lupron, for example, is the top prescribed puberty blocker (in addition to its actual, approved usage in treating prostate and breast cancer). When drug manufacturer Abbvie acquired Lupron in 2008, Lupron was raking in about $645m for the year 2007. In 2018 it made $892m, a 36% increase over 11 years.
Prostate cancer rates are on a two-decade decline. Same for breast cancer rates. So why the gain in revenue?
Gender dysphoria is no longer considered a mental health disorder. Not in the DSM-V, not by the WHO, and so on. By replacing Gender Identity Disorder with GD, the health care community has essentially medicalized GD. Now what was once something treated primarily by therapy, at least first and foremost, is now treated with cross-sex hormones and cosmetic surgery— everything from clavicle shaves to SRS to breast implants and facial feminization work.
Granted, old school transsexuals also used hormones and surgery for decades prior, but a few thousand men getting an estradiol patch was a mere drop in the profit bucket, especially compared to now when any troon or trender can sign an informed consent paper and get a HRT script on the first visit. By medicalizing GD, by extending the diagnosis to include teens and children, they are creating lifetime patients. If you want to continue “affirming” your gender identity, the drug regime never ends.
Until this becomes unprofitable, or until it becomes more lucrative to sue manufacturers and doctors (good luck with informed consent) then little will change.
I agree tbh. Gays, lesbians and bisexuals when they were fighting for their rights, first of all had legitimate gripes imo. Marriage is more than just a piece of paper, it's hospital visitation, surviving spouse rights, child rights, etc. etc. A lot of people were getting badly fucked over by not being able to legally couple on the record. But they have that now and so you don't hear much complaining. What rights are trans people missing exactly though? Free elective surgery is not a legitimate human right. Neither is entrance into women's sports or anything else they demand. Now, if trans people were out here asking for legitimate rights they don't have, I don't think anyone would have a problem.
There are still two big battles for the LGBT: employment rights and housing rights.
Though laws differ from city to state, still less than half the states in the US have ordinances on the books that prevent discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity or both. This issue is further complicated by the whims of various administrations to put antidiscrimination laws in play for the LGBT. Obama signed an executive order barring discrimination against federal employees; Trump them revoked the order.
Laws that protect LGBT people against getting fired or losing their apartment is a worthy cause; you shouldn’t lose your job just because you’re gay. But since the trans lobby has essentially hijacked the greater LGBT movement, these worthy causes are now being rejected by the public.
Why? You need only look to Houston to see what happens when a bill gets saddled with the trans activist agenda. Back in 2014, the very popular lesbian mayor Annise Parker approved the HERO ordinance for her city. HERO was largely focused on ending discriminatory practices against the LGBT in employment and housing.
After a rather interesting path to the November 2015 ballot (read about it here), HERO (now known as Proposition 1) was soundly defeated, 61%-39%, by voters. Why? Because instead of focusing on jobs and homes, Parker and the writers of the bill snuck in the following: “transgender residents' ability to use the restroom consistent with their gender expression, regardless of their biological sex.”
So what was once an anti discrimination bill that would’ve helped thousands of Houstonians with job protections was now reduced to being a bathroom bill. And of course the conservatives and evangelicals ran the hell out of the “men perving in the ladies room” angle.
It didn’t help that a few years earlier up in Ft Worth there was a high profile case involving a troon named Paula Witherspoon who was arrested for following a woman into the ladies room. Paula was wearing his ankle monitor at the time. Why? Because as Paul (still his legal name and on his ID when he was arrested) he has two convictions for child rape against girls. No big surprise then that the Witherspoon case was used to further scare voters about what happens when you allow men into women’s spaces.
So now everyone loses, including trans— because a law protecting the jobs and homes of the whole LGBT community was less important than using the little girls room.
Something I haven’t seen fully discussed is the business side of troonery— the profits made by the medical and pharmaceutical industries off of “gender dysphoria”.
I’m not a conspiracy person (famous last words, I know) and believe that Hanlon’s razor is generally at the root of most things considered shadowy and conspiratorial. But there is money to be made from troonery, that much is clear.
Lupron, for example, is the top prescribed puberty blocker (in addition to its actual, approved usage in treating prostate and breast cancer). When drug manufacturer Abbvie acquired Lupron in 2008, Lupron was raking in about $645m for the year 2007. In 2018 it made $892m, a 36% increase over 11 years.
Prostate cancer rates are on a two-decade decline. Same for breast cancer rates. So why the gain in revenue?
Gender dysphoria is no longer considered a mental health disorder. Not in the DSM-V, not by the WHO, and so on. By replacing Gender Identity Disorder with GD, the health care community has essentially medicalized GD. Now what was once something treated primarily by therapy, at least first and foremost, is now treated with cross-sex hormones and cosmetic surgery— everything from clavicle shaves to SRS to breast implants and facial feminization work.
Granted, old school transsexuals also used hormones and surgery for decades prior, but a few thousand men getting an estradiol patch was a mere drop in the profit bucket, especially compared to now when any troon or trender can sign an informed consent paper and get a HRT script on the first visit. By medicalizing GD, by extending the diagnosis to include teens and children, they are creating lifetime patients. If you want to continue “affirming” your gender identity, the drug regime never ends.
Until this becomes unprofitable, or until it becomes more lucrative to sue manufacturers and doctors (good luck with informed consent) then little will change.
There are still two big battles for the LGBT: employment rights and housing rights.
Though laws differ from city to state, still less than half the states in the US have ordinances on the books that prevent discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity or both. This issue is further complicated by the whims of various administrations to put antidiscrimination laws in play for the LGBT. Obama signed an executive order barring discrimination against federal employees; Trump them revoked the order.
Laws that protect LGBT people against getting fired or losing their apartment is a worthy cause; you shouldn’t lose your job just because you’re gay. But since the trans lobby has essentially hijacked the greater LGBT movement, these worthy causes are now being rejected by the public.
Why? You need only look to Houston to see what happens when a bill gets saddled with the trans activist agenda. Back in 2014, the very popular lesbian mayor Annise Parker approved the HERO ordinance for her city. HERO was largely focused on ending discriminatory practices against the LGBT in employment and housing.
After a rather interesting path to the November 2015 ballot (read about it here), HERO (now known as Proposition 1) was soundly defeated, 61%-39%, by voters. Why? Because instead of focusing on jobs and homes, Parker and the writers of the bill snuck in the following: “transgender residents' ability to use the restroom consistent with their gender expression, regardless of their biological sex.”
So what was once an anti discrimination bill that would’ve helped thousands of Houstonians with job protections was now reduced to being a bathroom bill. And of course the conservatives and evangelicals ran the hell out of the “men perving in the ladies room” angle.
It didn’t help that a few years earlier up in Ft Worth there was a high profile case involving a troon named Paula Witherspoon who was arrested for following a woman into the ladies room. Paula was wearing his ankle monitor at the time. Why? Because as Paul (still his legal name and on his ID when he was arrested) he has two convictions for child rape against girls. No big surprise then that the Witherspoon case was used to further scare voters about what happens when you allow men into women’s spaces.
So now everyone loses, including trans— because a law protecting the jobs and homes of the whole LGBT community was less important than using the little girls room.
Shit you're totally right and i had forgotten about that until now. Fucking trannies ruin everything.
You're right about the medical "conspiracy" too. It's not a fucking conspiracy though people will claim that when you talk about it. Corporations are required by law to make as much money as possible for their shareholders. They are obligated, again, by law, to ride the line right up to almost but not quite illegality to make the absolute most money possible. You can be certain they don't give a fuck about morality or ethics. Pushing troonery is not near illegal and it's obviously made them an awful lot of money. This isn't a difficult connection to make.
Shit you're totally right and i had forgotten about that until now. Fucking trannies ruin everything.
You're right about the medical "conspiracy" too. It's not a fucking conspiracy though people will claim that when you talk about it. Corporations are required by law to make as much money as possible for their shareholders. They are obligated, again, by law, to ride the line right up to almost but not quite illegality to make the absolute most money possible. You can be certain they don't give a fuck about morality or ethics. Pushing troonery is not near illegal and it's obviously made them an awful lot of money. This isn't a difficult connection to make.
Yep, and look at another popular transition-related drug: AbbVie's Androgel, for FtMs. It was FDA-approved in 2000 for a legitimate purpose, but got hit by huge consolidated lawsuits in 2014 because doctors had been prescribing it to men for off-label uses that weren't worth the increased risk of blood clots, stroke, etc. They hit $1.15 billion in sales in 2012, and only two years later they were facing about 7,000 lawsuits, with some of the men ultimately getting awarded millions apiece.
And AbbVie/Androgel was the last of the testosterone gels to reach final settlement agreements (which finally resolved in 2018.) Three other companies had already done the same.
So you have this testosterone therapy product that can now only be safely prescribed to men with legitimate testicular issues, instead of countless midlife crisis/etc. types who bought into the idea that all their life problems were caused by supposedly low testosterone. That's a tiny market in comparison. The company is legally obligated to not just throw up their hands and say, "Well, that $1+ billion dollar year was nice while it lasted! Sorry, shareholders!"
Nah. You find a new market, who'll sign much, much stronger liability waivers before they take the product, so you're not on the hook for their increased risk of heart attack. You mollify both your fretting legal department and your impatient shareholders.
And now, over in r/asktransgender, they make posts about how "well, the U.S. is culturally terrible for trans people, but at least they trust us to know our own bodies with informed consent clinics! Just let me sign whatever forms they give me, so I can get my hormones!" Yeah... that's not for your benefit.
I'm still amazed none of these idiots take time out to consider how "being your authentic self" can mean taking a shit ton of medications and having operations to change how you look. These things are opposites. The entire trans thing is built on lies, the most basic being that you can change gender (and people won't know you're a man in a dress).
Yeah, I know, expecting words to mean things nowadays
A lot of men join up because they're gay and there's no sanctioned gay sex in Catholicism, so they may as well be celibate. Then they're surrounded by juicy young lads in just the age range they were trying to resist before they joined. If some of the lads are questioning their sexuality and wondering if the clergy is right for them, well...
It's the perfect setup for conditioned gay pedophilia.
Nope, not a retcon. Even though Cultural Marxism (also known as the Frankfurt School) is hard to pin down and has been abused by both the far left and the far right, it does exist independent of looney tunes conspiracy theories. (And independent of leftists handwaving it away and pretending it’s just some sort of Nazi boogeyman.)
Last week I did one of my routine exercises in my Marxism course at Grove City College. In that class,...
spectator.org
TLDR: Cultural Marxism can best be explained as Marxism as applied to culture and cultural systems, as opposed to economy. The same dichotomy of oppressor vs the oppressed, interpreting the world in terms of classes as opposed to individuals, etc.
Cultural Marxism makes about as much sense as a feminine penis. The main idea of Marxism is economy is everything. Economy is the base; culture and whatnot is the superstructure over the base. Cultural whatever says, no, the culture is the base -- which is bull, because, uh, have you tried identifying as a billionaire? did it help? meanwhile, observe the box office records of the Avengers and Trump eating McD's; you don't become a billionaire by watching the same channel and eating the same food.
