💬 Off-Topic Critical Discussion of Trannies and Pedophilia

[NP 901]

Do we have any data regarding f2ms, or is it all just loud and proud m2fs we have data for? Evidence brought up by courageous troonologists across the web seem to indicate they too are fetishists, at least the current crop are being uwu softbois (possibly beyond the scope of this thread on the JY subforum?)

I don’t really see why we can’t discuss it here since we’re going to sperg off anyway. If we get scolded we could make a deep thoughts thread.

As for data on trans identified females and do we have it? We do. There was a paper published last year on ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’ which predominately affects women. It got craaaazy coverage and the editors made the authors jump through a fuck ton of insane hoops because the truth pissed off the trans community. If you google ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’ you will get pages and pages of people absolutely frothing at the mouth in anger at the investigation.

The short of it is, There’s been a huge upswing in trans identified females lately and it appears this may be due to a new phenomena called rapid-onset gender dysphoria. They feel social pressure or they see their friends trooning or they just want to not be stuck in the shitty b-tier role of female human, so they trans.

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

As for the idea that Blanchard doesn’t cover women, he does discuss them in later papers but it isn’t as well-investigated or fleshed out. Maybe he doesn’t think f2m are as hilarious as troons so he didn’t want to study them. If that’s the case, I tend to agree - they’re more sad and pathetic than entertaining.

 

[Jaimas]

We are though. Because there’s no gatekeeping. If you say you’re trans, you’re trans. You can’t be questioned. You can’t be criticised. So there’s no way to differentiate between someone who is trans and law abiding and someone like yaniv.
And that brings us right back to the same reason we exclude men from women’s toilets. Most men are fine. Some men are not. We can’t tell, so they ALL stay out.
It’s irrelevant if some trans women are great. They’re all men, so they’re all excluded from women’s loos. Except now they’re not, so all toilets are now mixed sex. Which is a predator’s wetdream.

You can’t argue for admission because some trans women are nice. MOST men are nice, but we still don’t want them in women and girls’ spaces.

The big issue there is measurability, and the Troon community has done everything it fucking can to undermine that.

It used to be that if you said you were trans, there was a process. Gender Dysphoria was real, even if it was rare, and transitioning was a thing that people did that took time and effort. You had to go through psych screenings, among other things, because the drugs involved in transitioning could easily fucking kill you if you had existing conditions or could cause serious neurochemical imbalances. There was doctors involved. It's how things should have stayed.

Tell me, do you think any of the brainlets we cover on the Rat King subforum could get past a single professional psych screening?

The answer is "no, they couldn't," which is why they put down the medically-diagnosed transgendered people as "transmedicalists" and "truscum." With the medical establishment being firmly against them, the troons began to heavily pressure every aspect of it they could to open things up and make getting their drugs easier - to the point that they can now get them without ever seeing a single psychiatrist. Informed consent clinics began handing out the hormones like tax-free candy. And then to add insult to injury, they got Dysphoria removed from the DSM-V.

So it's no longer recognized as a mental condition, and there's no actual measurable metrics now for who is and is not trans, and this has been put forth by people who have done everything they can toensure such measurability can not happen. And they're now demanding access to women-only spaces based on this.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

I don’t really see why we can’t discuss it here since we’re going to sperg off anyway. If we get scolded we could make a deep thoughts thread.

As for data on trans identified females and do we have it? We do. There was a paper published last year on women w dysphasia that got craaaazy coverage and the editors made the authors jump through a fuck ton of insane hoops because the truth pissed off the trans community. If you google ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’ you will get pages and pages of people absolutely frothing at the mouth in anger at the investigation.

The short of it is, There’s been a huge upswing in trans identified females lately and it appears this may be due to a new phenomena called rapid-onset gender dysphoria. They feel social pressure or they see their friends trooning or they just want to not be stuck in the shitty b-tier role of female human, so they trans.

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

I do know about ROGD and yeah, it does seems to correlate with women caring more about being with the "new social thing" than men. Data I know of says that there have been f2ms medically recognized since at least the 1950s and my mom actually knew someone who knew one way back then (not a butch lesbian, had a double mastectomy and was on T and everything).

So it's no longer recognized as a mental condition, and there's no actual measurable metrics now for who is and is not trans, and this has been put forth by people who have done everything they can toensure such measurability can not happen. And they're now demanding access to women-only spaces based on this.

Be of good cheer, if it's no longer a medical condition then insurance companies will probably, and soon, have literally no reason to cover any of it.

 

[Fapcop]

Do you know why there are so many child molesting catholic priests? Because for at least 2000 years they have been in a position of unquestionable authority.

Woah... There is a little problem there: We don’t really know if there are “so many” child molesting priests.

Are pedophiles more common among Catholic priests than Protestant priests or Imams? Are priests more likely to be pedophiles than music teachers or IT Guys?

We don’t really know.

If there have been any comparative studies made, I’d love to see them, because afaik the only indicator of pedophilia being “common” among priests is media outrage stories.

Your comment that priests are in a “position of power” should also be taken with a huge grain of salt.

For the past 50 years, particularly in the Western world, priests have hardly been in a position of “unquestionable authority”. Except perhaps among the handful of little old ladies who show up every Sunday.

 

[PTNR 2.0]

The biggest and most obvious source of troon-pedo correlation is that there is literally no gatekeeping mechanism to being a troon. If you say you're a troon, you're a troon according to pro-troon advocates, and once you say you're a troon, there is a significant portion of the population that will circle the wagons around you and defend you to the death against claims of abuse even, in some cases, in the face of hard, objective evidence that would make for an open and shut trial if it went to court. This lets abusers hide in plain sight; so in this sense, it's not that trannies are pedophiles so much as pedophiles embed themselves in trans-inclusive spaces to hide in plain sight because it gives them a legion of people who will go for the throat of anyone pointing out any obvious red flags. See Oger's shit he posted after Yaniv was found out, wherein Oger overtly says they didn't believe any of the hard evidence of Yaniv being a pedo for a long-ass time because he just thought it was "transphobes" trying to cause problems as an obvious, recent, and fitting example.

However, another factor that often gets overlooked is the degree to which F2M troons are infantilized by troon advocates. You'll see all sorts of stuff from troon allies saying stuff like "STOP CRITICIZING TRANS WOMEN FOR ACTING CHILDISH, THEY NEVER GOT TO HAVE A CHILDHOOD AS A FEMALE" and actively encouraging grown ass adults to act like pre-pubescent/tween/teenage girls in order to "relieve the youth they never got to have as their preferred gender". Combine this with how rampant autism is, especially in F2M troons, and you'll basically have a group of naive men who perhaps aren't inherently pedophilic, but who probably don't have a super strong grasp on social mores (like why age of consent is a super important thing) to begin with actively being pushed to do age inappropriate things by enablers which then culminates in age-inappropriate sexual behavior.

Think of it similarly to how the entire Chris-Chan troon saga, which has been going on for nearly a decade at this point, began because a troll told him he needed to get in touch with his feminine side, and he took it and ran with it to the nth degree, doing all sorts of weird, creepy, toxic, and inappropriate stuff in the process. I think a similar scenario plays out between M2F troons and their enablers a lot.

 

[Aviva's Biotech-Breakdown]

For the past 50 years, particularly in the Western world, priests have hardly been in a position of “unquestionable authority”. Except perhaps among the handful of little old ladies who show up every Sunday.

I emphatically disagree. Anyone brought up Catholic can tell you that they are absolutely viewed as God's representatives on Earth. That is literally what their function is intended to be. I said "so many" as there have been over 800 priests who have been removed from their position due to child sex abuse, since 2004 (as reported by the Vatican).
Of course this view has been heavily mitigated by the fact that the public is now aware of abusers within the Church, so this doesn't apply as much as it did pre-1990s.
My point is that positions of unquestionable authority draw predators. Obviously I'm not saying every single priest is a pedophile, but I'm definitely conveying that the Catholic church absolutely indoctrinates followers with the belief that priests are God's mouthpieces.

 

[AnOminous]

Woah... There is a little problem there: We don’t really know if there are “so many” child molesting priests.

Are pedophiles more common among Catholic priests than Protestant priests or Imams? Are priests more likely to be pedophiles than music teachers or IT Guys?

It literally doesn't matter if there are more pedophile priests than other pedophile clergy. What's important is that the behavior of the RCC all the way up to the Vatican vastly magnified the damage any individual pedophile priest caused by shuffling them around from parish to parish without letting the new location know of his past transgressions, giving him a fresh new pool of victims.

Troons do something similar. It doesn't really matter if they're more likely to be pedophiles, but when they are, the entire community covers for them, as with Jon Yaniv. The Rogaine Ogre was defending this brazen child molester until a few weeks ago.

And it's not just fellow troons, but SJWs in general, like the anti-GG scumbags who covered for open pedophile Nicholas Nyberg for years and, to this day, don't admit he's a pedophile.

And in the case of Yaniv, naive or (IMO) outright corrupt and fraudulent kangaroo courts like these "human rights" tribunals openly assist them in sexually harassing people and punish their victims for refusing sexual contact with them.

 

[Caesare]

I am 150% for trans rights

They already have the same rights as everybody else. The problem with those people is that they want extra, "special" rights, such as the right to creep on women and children and make them uncomfortable by invading their intimate, private spaces while making zero effort to look feminine and while having male sex organs.

 

[RE 374]

I am 150% for trans rights and I will respect all pronouns requested unless you're a pedophile racist using your gender as an excuse to be so. Sorry, I know it's hypocritical in some aspects but as the comment above me states....sexual predators don't have the rights to respect.

The TQ+++ should never have been tacked on to the LGB. Sexual attraction based discrimination was real where partners couldn't marry or have the same legal protections that provides. Trans and Q face zero issues other than "wahhhhh someone hurt my feelings" or "waaaaaah people won't fuck me" neither of which are human rights issues. Easy access to hormones and SRS is actually harming children and young adults. There was a reason "gatekeeping" by medical professionals and psychiatrists were a good thing since, yes, dysphoria is a damn psychological problem.

If Yaniv's case demonstrates anything, it's how easy the troon squad made it for men to prey on women and children. They're actively harming all the gains and goodwill the LGB worked for for decades and have ousted lesbians and gay men from their own communities. They've made it so even criticizing them brands you a nazi or terf. It's fascism run by perverts pretending to be progressive. The movement is also sexist, homophobic and quite often racist.

Actual transexuals are so rare and most of the trans community is autogynophiles, girls who have spent too much time reading slash fic and straight people with paraphilias, which yes, includes pedophilia. No one cares who other people fuck or if you want to swing from a chandelier upside down with two extra large dildos in your ass until it's constantly forced down the public's throat. To many of these dudes, crossdressing in public and having people forced to play along lest they be called transphobic is part of the fetish.

 

[Kiislova]

There was a reason "gatekeeping" by medical professionals and psychiatrists were a good thing since, yes, dysphoria is a damn psychological problem.

Now that we are on the "Titty Skittles for all" bandwagon, we can expect a number of people (and cows) offing themselves in a near future due to irreparable damage to their own bodies.

 

[Flake452]

Oh good, a soap box where I can posit my theory on the comorbidities of troonery, pedophilia, and being a dumb fuck! I've mentioned it previously in the megathread and in the reddit trans community thread, but this seems like a good place to duke it out for real without derailing shit.

There is a correlation between low IQ and pedophilia (1), and paraphilias such as pedophilia and transvestic disorder often cluster (2). Therefore by the trannysitive property there is a correlation between low IQ and troonery. Troons are also often autistic, and that leads to one of my favorite quotes ever (3):




So, do we know/think JY is autistic? It could explain his low effort troonery (and definitely explains CWCs) but I'm leaning towards thinking he's just a walking freak show.

Spoiler: sources

1 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17634757/
2 https://www.merckmanuals.com/home/m...rview-of-paraphilias-and-paraphilic-disorders
3 https://www.forbes.com/sites/zhanav...a-and-autism-spectrum-disorders/#5abc6b99153e
Archive of 3 (journals blocked archive tools)

Is it that low IQ people are more likely to be paedophiles or that they are just more likely to get caught?

 

[Strelok]

Is it that low IQ people are more likely to be paedophiles or that they are just more likely to get caught?

I often wonder about that with crime statistics in general tbh. You see the same lower IQ results for regular felons as well, but you have to figure that the sample sizes may be self selecting. Gotta assume the smart or even average criminals don't get arrested as often.

I mean for every dipshit who robs a 7/11 while his face is plain as day to the camera, how many corner hustlers are there that know to duck out the moment anything even smells of bacon.

 

[SourDiesel]

It only feels like troons got on the top of the heap in the last five years because that's when they cracked out of the lgbt community and into the mainstream. Troon ideology has been fighting its way to the top of internal lgbt discourse since the late 90's. I know people start acting like you're going off topic when you start explaining philosophy or the state of academia but these things are relevant because of how this ideology came about. Lgbt talking points don't come out of thin air. They come from gender studies - which was originally women's studies until troon ideology got a hold of it. Every dumb facet of the ideology was originally an academic paper and through an ever simplifying game of telephone, we wind up with "trans women are women!". That particular platitude is a bastardization of Judith Butler's works. That in itself is a story of trans lobby pressure because originally Butler said that "gender is a social construct" but she was saying that gender (the way you dress and act as a man or woman) is not a part of your biology and changes with culture. She used to explain it wasn't about trans ideology but she got browbeaten/pressured into changing her tune years later.

But when you combine that sort of thing with what came out of African studies and that's how we really got here. The root blame can be placed on "intersectionality" imo. Now that essay, I could critique for days. It was written by a black woman specifically to handle the issues black women have but people liked the idea (because who doesn't like the idea of there being a group who gets to be "centered". It could be me!) and immediately increased its scope to include "all intersections". Problem is, as you can see clearly, this theory of intersectionality doesn't scale well. You can't center the most oppressed until you figure out who the most oppressed is and that's how we ended up in the oppression olympics. I know there's a free copy of that paper online if you want to read it, I'll try to edit it in later. Basic hamburger essay, no need to read the middle bit, the relevant parts are the beginning and end.

Then of course, on top of your gender studies and your intersectionality, add in some post-modernism (anything I perceive as real is real whether it's objectively real or not because objective reality doesn't exist. My perceptions are all that matter) from the philosophy department and that's the formula that blew up in our faces, I think.
Unfortunately all of this is academias fault in one way or another. It's not that I don't value philosophy as a discipline but like, if it weren't for all these navel gazing paper writers, we wouldn't be here.

Anyway, ftm and mtf transition for different reasons it would appear. For the most part, ftms get pressured into it and mtfs get fetished into it. Blanchard didn't do a typography on ftms because real ones are even rarer than real male transexuals. There are tons now because the ideology is pushed in peoples social groups when it didn't used to be.


As an aside, pedophiles having low IQ is well documented. Not all pedophiles studied have actually committed a crime and been caught and arrested. Many are "non-offending". You know, the NOMAPS. I don't have as good links as the others to this info but there are definitely pedos with clean track records out there to study.

Edit: I can only find a PDF but it turns out the relevant conclusion to the intersectionality paper fits into one handy screenshot. You can see the part that made it into public consciousness right there in the line about "placing those who are marginalized in the center".

 

[Kiislova]

It only feels like troons got on the top of the heap in the last five years because that's when they cracked out of the lgbt community and into the mainstream. Troon ideology has been fighting its way to the top of internal lgbt discourse since the late 90's. I know people start acting like you're going off topic when you start explaining philosophy or the state of academia but these things are relevant because of how this ideology came about. Lgbt talking points don't come out of thin air. They come from gender studies - which was originally women's studies until troon ideology got a hold of it. Every dumb facet of the ideology was originally an academic paper and through an ever simplifying game of telephone, we wind up with "trans women are women!". That particular platitude is a bastardization of Judith Butler's works. That in itself is a story of trans lobby pressure because originally Butler said that "gender is a social construct" but she was saying that gender (the way you dress and act as a man or woman) is not a part of your biology and changes with culture. She used to explain it wasn't about trans ideology but she got browbeaten/pressured into changing her tune years later.

But when you combine that sort of thing with what came out of African studies and that's how we really got here. The root blame can be placed on "intersectionality" imo. Now that essay, I could critique for days. It was written by a black woman specifically to handle the issues black women have but people liked the idea (because who doesn't like the idea of there being a group who gets to be "centered". It could be me!) and immediately increased its scope to include "all intersections". Problem is, as you can see clearly, this theory of intersectionality doesn't scale well. You can't center the most oppressed until you figure out who the most oppressed is and that's how we ended up in the oppression olympics. I know there's a free copy of that paper online if you want to read it, I'll try to edit it in later. Basic hamburger essay, no need to read the middle bit, the relevant parts are the beginning and end.

Then of course, on top of your gender studies and your intersectionality, add in some post-modernism (anything I perceive as real is real whether it's objectively real or not because objective reality doesn't exist. My perceptions are all that matter). My from the philosophy department and that's the formula that blew up in our faces, I think.
Unfortunately all of this is academias fault in one way or another. It's not that I don't value philosophy as a discipline but like, if it weren't for all these navel gazing paper writers, we wouldn't be here.

Anyway, ftm and mtf transition for different reasons it would appear. For the most part, ftms get pressured into it and mtfs get fetished into it. Blanchard didn't do a typography on ftms because real ones are even rarer than real male transexuals. There are tons now because the ideology is pushed in peoples social groups when it didn't used to be.


As an aside, pedophiles having low IQ is well documented. Not all pedophiles studied have actually committed a crime and been caught and arrested. Many are "non-offending". You know, the NOMAPS. I don't have as good links as the others to this info but there are definitely pedos with clean track records out there to study.

Yesterday I watched Fritz the Cat for the first time (yes, call me a furfag) and is striking how many of the today's lefty-woke rethoric is either lampooned or straight up promoted (unsure on some cases) on a stupid film from 1972.

Many of the African and gender studies cliches get mentioned and sometimes mocked, so all this wokeness had to be pretty "mainstream within academia" at that time.

 

[SourDiesel]

Yesterday I watched Fritz the Cat for the first time (yes, call me a furfag) and is striking how many of the today's lefty-woke rethoric is either lampooned or straight up promoted (unsure on some cases) on a stupid film from 1972.

Many of the African and gender studies cliches get mentioned and sometimes mocked, so all this wokeness had to be pretty "mainstream within academia" at that time.

It definitely would've been women's studies in 1972, but you're right imo. No one out here in the real world has any idea what kind of stuff is being talked about in academia until something bleeds out of the universities into the real world. But I don't think people realize exactly how much these unscientific academic opinions shape our society. They shape it A LOT. Government makes laws and we may not like what any particular government is doing at any given time but at least it's relatively transparent and we get to go through the farce of elections. Academics shape policy just as much, if not more, and we have no idea who these people are, what they are thinking, or what they want society to become until it gets filtered out of the school and by then it's too late. It's scary tbh. Like a shadow government imo.

 

[NP 901]

No one out here in the real world has any idea what kind of stuff is being talked about in academia until something bleeds out of the universities into the real world.

We have no idea who these people are or what they are saying?


It’s not a huge secret, it’s that nobody cares or, in some cases, has the critical reading skills to interpret their publications. Academia is under enormous pressure to publish, and they are all writing about this shit. Even though most publications are locked behind paywalls you can access them either at the library or at a local university.

 

[SourDiesel]

We have no idea who these people are or what they are saying?


It’s not a huge secret, it’s that nobody cares or, in some cases, has the critical reading skills to interpret their publications. Academia is under enormous pressure to publish, and they are all writing about this shit. Even though most publications are locked behind paywalls you can access them either at the library or at a local university.

Fair enough, you're right. We could know or find out if we were so inclined but for all intents and purposes, they may as well be secret. As you say, people in general are too busy and not ambitious enough to actually look into it. People barely even look that far into the politicians they vote for if they're on the "right" team. But I feel that when academia hides behind paywalls and/or forces you to actually travel to a university town to visit their library to figure this shit out, there's secrecy going on whether intentional or not. I mean even when you do find these papers, they may as well be in a different language. You ever actually tried to read Butler? JFC. I'll walk that bit back a little though. You're not wrong.

 

[Gender of peace]

It only feels like troons got on the top of the heap in the last five years because that's when they cracked out of the lgbt community and into the mainstream. Troon ideology has been fighting its way to the top of internal lgbt discourse since the late 90's. I know people start acting like you're going off topic when you start explaining philosophy or the state of academia but these things are relevant because of how this ideology came about. Lgbt talking points don't come out of thin air. They come from gender studies - which was originally women's studies until troon ideology got a hold of it. Every dumb facet of the ideology was originally an academic paper and through an ever simplifying game of telephone, we wind up with "trans women are women!". That particular platitude is a bastardization of Judith Butler's works. That in itself is a story of trans lobby pressure because originally Butler said that "gender is a social construct" but she was saying that gender (the way you dress and act as a man or woman) is not a part of your biology and changes with culture. She used to explain it wasn't about trans ideology but she got browbeaten/pressured into changing her tune years later.

But when you combine that sort of thing with what came out of African studies and that's how we really got here. The root blame can be placed on "intersectionality" imo. Now that essay, I could critique for days. It was written by a black woman specifically to handle the issues black women have but people liked the idea (because who doesn't like the idea of there being a group who gets to be "centered". It could be me!) and immediately increased its scope to include "all intersections". Problem is, as you can see clearly, this theory of intersectionality doesn't scale well. You can't center the most oppressed until you figure out who the most oppressed is and that's how we ended up in the oppression olympics. I know there's a free copy of that paper online if you want to read it, I'll try to edit it in later. Basic hamburger essay, no need to read the middle bit, the relevant parts are the beginning and end.

Then of course, on top of your gender studies and your intersectionality, add in some post-modernism (anything I perceive as real is real whether it's objectively real or not because objective reality doesn't exist. My perceptions are all that matter) from the philosophy department and that's the formula that blew up in our faces, I think.
Unfortunately all of this is academias fault in one way or another. It's not that I don't value philosophy as a discipline but like, if it weren't for all these navel gazing paper writers, we wouldn't be here.

Anyway, ftm and mtf transition for different reasons it would appear. For the most part, ftms get pressured into it and mtfs get fetished into it. Blanchard didn't do a typography on ftms because real ones are even rarer than real male transexuals. There are tons now because the ideology is pushed in peoples social groups when it didn't used to be.


As an aside, pedophiles having low IQ is well documented. Not all pedophiles studied have actually committed a crime and been caught and arrested. Many are "non-offending". You know, the NOMAPS. I don't have as good links as the others to this info but there are definitely pedos with clean track records out there to study.

And the conceptual building blocks for pedotroonery were being assembled as early as the 70s with the founding daddy of queer theory, Foucault. Let's play Queer Theory Pedophilia Jeopardy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u3hmZCsXoE

Derrick Jensen is a Ted-pilled misanthropist and a bit of a lolcow in his own right but I respect his jihad against pedotroonery.

 

[LU 010]

I was just looking up some of Ray Blanchard’s papers to post in here for the nerd kiwis, but I got derailed by this paper on furries lmao

Furry Sexuality: Conditioned Fetishes a Better Explanation than Erotic Target Identity Inversion

Download Citation | On Jun 28, 2019, B. Terrance Grey and others published Furry Sexuality: Conditioned Fetishes a Better Explanation than Erotic Target Identity Inversion | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

“Erotic target identity inversion” or “erotic target location error”, by the way, is an excellent term to use when you are looking into deviancy that is directed onto the self such as autopedophilia, autoacrotomophilia,
and auyogynephilia (to love yourself as a child, to love yourself as an amputee, and to love yourself as a women)

Anyways, here’s Blanchard’s early work where he discovered discrete differences between transsexuals and troons:

Typology of male-to-female transsexalism | Request PDF

Request PDF | Typology of male-to-female transsexalism | This study tested a prediction derived from the hypothesis that asexual and bisexual transsexualism are actually subtypes of heterosexual... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

And a history of autogynephilia in literature:

Early History of the Concept of Autogynephilia

Since the beginning of the last century, clinical observers have described the propensity of certain males to be erotically aroused by the thought or image of themselves as women. Because there was no specific term to denote this phenomenon, clinicians’ references to it were generally oblique or...

link.springer.com

It's wanting me to put in contact info to request the full paper for the first two. Do you perhaps have a PDF version you can upload or something?

I don’t really see why we can’t discuss it here since we’re going to sperg off anyway. If we get scolded we could make a deep thoughts thread.

As for data on trans identified females and do we have it? We do. There was a paper published last year on ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’ which predominately affects women. It got craaaazy coverage and the editors made the authors jump through a fuck ton of insane hoops because the truth pissed off the trans community. If you google ‘rapid onset gender dysphoria’ you will get pages and pages of people absolutely frothing at the mouth in anger at the investigation.

The short of it is, There’s been a huge upswing in trans identified females lately and it appears this may be due to a new phenomena called rapid-onset gender dysphoria. They feel social pressure or they see their friends trooning or they just want to not be stuck in the shitty b-tier role of female human, so they trans.

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

As for the idea that Blanchard doesn’t cover women, he does discuss them in later papers but it isn’t as well-investigated or fleshed out. Maybe he doesn’t think f2m are as hilarious as troons so he didn’t want to study them. If that’s the case, I tend to agree - they’re more sad and pathetic than entertaining.

I have a pet theory, not scientifically backed ofc, but based on observation combined with discussion with female detransitioners.

I've known a few FTMs in my life. Every single one of them was raped as a child or young adult. A number of detransitioners I've spoken to have indicated that the underlying psychological reason they transitioned in the first place was an extreme discomfort with their body after sexual assault combined with a desire to feel safer by appearing male. Discomfort/hatred of your body is a common/well-documented thing to have happen after sex assault, lots of victims end up showering over and over and over and never feeling like they're clean, etc. For someone in that situation, the idea of completely changing your body, especially the parts of it associated with the worst thing that ever happened to you, is extremely appealing. Add that to being physically stronger and less likely to be seen as a sexual target by predators, and you have a pretty unpleasant picture of why some of these people might be doing this.

The TQ+++ should never have been tacked on to the LGB. Sexual attraction based discrimination was real where partners couldn't marry or have the same legal protections that provides. Trans and Q face zero issues other than "wahhhhh someone hurt my feelings" or "waaaaaah people won't fuck me" neither of which are human rights issues. Easy access to hormones and SRS is actually harming children and young adults. There was a reason "gatekeeping" by medical professionals and psychiatrists were a good thing since, yes, dysphoria is a damn psychological problem.

If Yaniv's case demonstrates anything, it's how easy the troon squad made it for men to prey on women and children. They're actively harming all the gains and goodwill the LGB worked for for decades and have ousted lesbians and gay men from their own communities. They've made it so even criticizing them brands you a nazi or terf. It's fascism run by perverts pretending to be progressive. The movement is also sexist, homophobic and quite often racist.

Actual transexuals are so rare and most of the trans community is autogynophiles, girls who have spent too much time reading slash fic and straight people with paraphilias, which yes, includes pedophilia. No one cares who other people fuck or if you want to swing from a chandelier upside down with two extra large dildos in your ass until it's constantly forced down the public's throat. To many of these dudes, crossdressing in public and having people forced to play along lest they be called transphobic is part of the fetish.

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But I feel that when academia hides behind paywalls and/or forces you to actually travel to a university town to visit their library to figure this shit out, there's secrecy going on whether intentional or not.

Unfortunately that’s not the fault of the academics, it’s the academic journals trying to break even. There’s nothing secretive or intentionally obfuscative on the part of the academics. They are just trying to get their work critically assessed by knowledgeable peers and then published. I don’t really have a solution but I’m just warning you that if you peddle this idea academics are secretive or hiding it makes you sound like a crazy person or just ill-informed. You’ll often find that academics also host lectures or colloquium that are open to the public, but again the onus is on the general public to display literally any intellectual curiosity. The best you can do is petition the government that all research funded by the NHS be open to the public, which recently there was some noise about that, but then the concern is that quality will decrease when nobody can afford an editor or convince anybody to peer review.