🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

Who is the most "specially gifted" member of the gang?

  • Jared

    Głosy: 1 129 36,8%

  • PBG

    Głosy: 620 20,2%

  • Holly

    Głosy: 754 24,6%

  • Heidi

    Głosy: 478 15,6%

  • Null

    Głosy: 1 391 45,3%

  • Ross

    Głosy: 165 5,4%

  • Nulyu

    Głosy: 52 1,7%
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OmnipotentStupidity powiedział(a):
While I agree that staying radio silent would not have been a good idea, trying to make a situation about Internet "cancelcCulture" that was not at all a case of cancel culture, and claiming that you're gathering hate messages they've gotten over the controversy, stealing your own husband's tweet after people rightfully called her out for using a dead man as leverage, and then saying she deserves punishment and that all clown memes are deserved and still talking as though she's a victim in a situation she put herself in really doesn't help her look any better.

Whether or not what she was saying was right or whether or not she had a point: doing it this soon, while using Etika's name for something that didn't happen, and then stealing a Tweet from your ex-husband (while said ex-huband is telling others that using a death for self-gain is scummy) is a horrible look. At least if she waited a week or just said a simple "I'm sorry" with nothing else attached, just those two words: then I could understand. It was the same with the divorce, whether or not Holly was right or wrong, trying to create a narrative of complete innocence in a situation as messy as this while pinning mental health and unrelated topics to it will only serve to make the Internet hate you even more.
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That seems like you just want a specific apology tailored to you, and that anything that doesn't fit that reaction is disingenuous, which I disagree with. If she's apologizing, that should be good enough, but we live in an age where apologies do not bring satisfaction, it only brings more calls for specific ways to apologize or specific consequences. I guarantee you if she brought this up next week exactly as you prescribed, someone else is going to ask why it took her so long to apologize and still call her apology disingenuous based on the length of time it took for her to give an apology.
 
Man of the Sea powiedział(a):
That seems like you just want a specific apology tailored to you, and that anything that doesn't fit that reaction is disingenuous, which I disagree with. If she's apologizing, that should be good enough, but we live in an age where apologies do not bring satisfaction, it only brings more calls for specific ways to apologize or specific consequences.
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Well, pardon me for not wanting her to go on a meltdown where she did the exact same thing to people and expecting her to not steal someone else's shit when apologizing for doing the exact same thing she accused everyone else of.

If me wanting her to say "I'm sorry and I'll do better", instead of "I'm sorry, I deserve punishment, I have mental illnesses so I deserve all clown memes" is a terrible argument because it's what I "want", then so be it.
Man of the Sea powiedział(a):
I guarantee you if she brought this up next week exactly as you prescribed, someone else is going to ask why it took her so long to apologize and still call her apology disingenuous based on the length of time it took for her to give an apology.
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I'm saying she should've waited a week before she even talked about or brought this up period, not that she should've made the statement when she did, waited a week, and then apologized. That's fucking exceptional logic, of course she'd get called out for it if she did that.

She probably would've still gotten backlash for her not realizing Etika's situation, but it still would've been better and the reaction less visceral than doing this on the day that he died. Hell, it wouldn't even had to have been a week-long wait. Just...give it a couple of days at least before talking about it.
 
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Man of the Sea powiedział(a):
Heidi is the one who named Holly openly on Twitter about "cheating", which ended up being proven to be a lie by Heidi's own texts. The fact that Heidi even encouraged this behavior in texts has proven that she wasn't homewrecking.

What evidence do you have that Holly was shitting on Heidi privately? It seems like it was pretty popular knowledge among their circle of friends that Heidi was abusive toward Jared.

Did you not read earlier that Jared was trying to get a divorce earlier?

Holly didn't get involved in public because she wanted to, though. Heidi named Holly as the cheater in her very first tweet about the divorce. Jared may seem like an idiot for announcing his divorce publicly on Twitter, but it seems that Heidi was going to make this public regardless of if Jared was going to announce it, so his announcement on Twitter now makes more sense because he was trying to get ahead of Heidi making a public statement about their divorce. Also, the fact that Heidi pretended that she has no idea what was going on and that she didn't know she was getting divorced in public has also been proven to be a lie. Your opinion has been a bit too colored by the initial feelings that you had about the situation. The extra information after the divorce announcement drastically changes the situation that this divorce has been framed initially.

I'm not sure what the correct action to take when the entire internet has decided that you are a cheating scumfuck out of nowhere, but I doubt being radio silent will be helpful. In fact, if Holly had been radio silent, we wouldn't have all this new information about how much Heidi is a fucking liar and manipulative as fuck and we'd all still be feeling sorry for Heidi and thinking Holly and Jared are complete cunts. Jared and Holly may seem like idiots initially, but their decisions make much more sense now that more information has surfaced, and Heidi is definitely not the victim of cheating that we were led initially to believe.
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That's a lot of words, but Holly was absolutely shitting on Heidi privately. You can't have it both ways for Holly - she can't be Heidi's close friend publicly and then calling her an abusive monster behind closed doors (which was a thing apparently everyone was doing for a long time).

I was very clear that everyone involved was a shithead and Heidi obviously destroyed her own marriage via polyamory - but it's still homewrecking when you're trying to fuck a dude before and after his divorce while pretending to be friends with his wife, even after she expressly asked you to stop trying to fuck her husband, that the poly thing is over, etc. Holly's constant involvement hasn't helped Jared either, because he really should be sorting himself out instead of leaving one crazy e-celeb for another crazy e-celeb.

Radio silence is honestly working wonders for Jared - the two women are tearing themselves down, the minor accusers are all recanting as well as deleting their shit. All that's going to be left is the idea that Jared fucked around with permission and eventually left his wife, which isn't a huge deal. He's going to come out of the whole fiasco looking the best because all he did was fuck bitches that wanted it.
 
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Tanner Glass powiedział(a):
Radio silence is honestly working wonders for Jared - the two women are tearing themselves down, the minor accusers are all recanting as well as deleting their shit. All that's going to be left is the idea that Jared fucked around with permission and eventually left his wife, which isn't a huge deal. He's going to come out of the whole fiasco looking the best because all he did was fuck bitches that wanted it.
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So tl;dr bitches be cray to the point that Jared "possibly sent dick pics to minors" Knabenbauer is looking like the sanest person in the room.
 
I feel bad for Jared and Holly having their livelihoods ruined over spurious hearsay, but this is a lesson to everyone not to build your following on the basis of being a virtuous feminist ally, lest your SJW fan base turn on you at the drop of a hat because a marginalized person called you out on twitter dot com.

Their only hope now is making a heel turn and announcing that they've realized that Gamergate was right all along.
 
In the end Holly was sorry for less than half a day and now she's gone full personal army.
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Jared will probably drop the bomb he no longer wants her in his life soon; very courteous of Holly to give him so many excuses to ditch her :like:
 
WASR96 powiedział(a):
So what's Jared doing at the moment, watching his SocialBlade and staring at a bottle of windex? I can't wait for the inevitable "An apology to my fans" video. He'll have to go get a rescue animal to check off the "include cute pet in apology" box since Heidi took her cat with her.
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Or maybe he'll just make a video bawwing about how he's been treated unjustly and how Heidi screwed him over while doing a poor job to cover up what actually happened, 3 days later the Police will find his body in some back alley.
Maybe.
 
Tanner Glass powiedział(a):
Radio silence is honestly working wonders for Jared - the two women are tearing themselves down, the minor accusers are all recanting as well as deleting their shit. All that's going to be left is the idea that Jared fucked around with permission and eventually left his wife, which isn't a huge deal. He's going to come out of the whole fiasco looking the best because all he did was fuck bitches that wanted it.
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I agree. Also, if it were me, I'd do the same thing. To me it's no different than refusing to speak to the police without a lawyer, even if you're innocent and can prove it. The court of public opinion is fucking merciless and will judge you based on anything you say. Sure, he might've been able to play things out by taking the moral high ground and defending himself, but what would that have accomplished that staying silent this long hasn't anyway? By shutting up he negates any chance his accusers and character assassins have of nitpicking and psychoanalyzing his words. Plus, he denies bloodsport commentators the content they desperately need to keep the cash rolling in. That's what I consider the key point. How many more videos do you think there'd be up by now about this situation if Jared was duking it out with his ex in public? Without content to make money off of, nobody with any large audience is going to bother raking him over the coals.
 
This entire gooey afterbirth of a trashfire seemed to have a new boost. I was gone for 4 days for fuck's sake...

Can someone please eloquently fill me in what this new wave of Anti-Holly and Redemption Jared is all about? I've dug a lot up until now and would like to skip at least once six or so pages.
 
I think Heidi is telling the truth here, because this actually lines up perfectly with Holly threatening suicide on twitter back in December over a ~mysterious friend~ refusing to leave their abusive relationship. Holly is still adamant that Jared/Heidi had broken up by October, when Jared and Holly started properly banging. But if they were done for good like she says, then why the need for her attention-seeking/suicide bait subtweets?
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sharklasers powiedział(a):
Jared stopped wearing his wedding ring some time in September or October 2018. That is a clear indication he was separating. Anything he did from October 2018 to now would be after he began trying to divorce Heidi.

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Jared stopped wearing his wedding ring sometime between October and the end of November of 2018.

Post with 465 views. Jared stopped wearing his wedding ring sometime between October and the end of November of 2018.
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Did they ever wear one to begin with, though? I know Holly and Ross didn't. Some millennial shit.
 
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