🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

[Just Some Dweller]

Seems like it didn't take Heidi too long to turn against the reddit girl Jared slept with.


https://archive.fo/rQ8GY

 

[DogEatDogFood]

ProJared is cancelled, James Charles is cancelled, EVERYONE is cancelled, YOUTUBE is cancelled, Internet is cancelled, Soon, THE WORLD will be cancelled, because it seems like everything is being cancelled nowadays.

And you only can heard the lonely voice of the last man's standing: "Dood, the world got bugged. I was standing there, and everyone is gone. This is fucking bullshit, dood. ACK ACK ACK ACK"

 

[sharklasers]

Charlie has deleted all of their accusation posts against Jared. That means Charlie and Chai both have deleted their accusations, and the reddit anon has said nothing since their one post without proof.

Now Charlie is asking to be left out of the accusation talk.

Twitter

archived 24 Jun 2019 11:50:30 UTC

archive.fo

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Remember the week this first hit, and all the memes and drama started flooding in? Remember the 36+ hour stream for watching the sub count drop and all the bangers that played in the background?

Good times, fellas. Good times.

 

[war has changed]

Remember the week this first hit, and all the memes and drama started flooding in? Remember the 36+ hour stream for watching the sub count drop and all the bangers that played in the background?

Good times, fellas. Good times.

Maybe the Divorce Fiasco was the friends we made along the way.

 

[Mango Unchained]

Remember the week this first hit, and all the memes and drama started flooding in? Remember the 36+ hour stream for watching the sub count drop and all the bangers that played in the background?

Good times, fellas. Good times.

Maybe the Divorce Fiasco was the friends we made along the way.

90 pages or so ago, I made my first post just after coming back from a business trip and joining the farms in the fiasco. Truer words haven't been spoken. Hell of a month in more ways than one, depending on your side of things. This divorce fiasco is a psychedelic journey where we laugh together, learn things we should not do on the irrnet and share pain cake all around.

Before that I liked Jared's content and knew he had an ED page somewhere, but since then things changed - for the radical. The amount of dirt that was excavated is sheer astonishing. Two months ago people took Jared's odd behaviour and clean content as an adorable goofy side of him who is not afraid to speak out his mind. And while it remained true that he's sexually open and emotionally challenged, it served to hide the misdeeds he committed - like an image-driven mafia front trattoria.

In Rupert Thorne's words: "The brighter the picture, the darker the negative."

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Seems like it didn't take Heidi too long to turn against the reddit girl Jared slept with.


https://archive.fo/rQ8GY

"I don't owe anyone my story despite literally giving it out longform at the start of this controversy and taunting the person who my ex-husband cheated on me with in public about her nudes"

 

[TP 200]

So Jared was innocent the entire time?

 

[deadfool]

So Jared was innocent the entire time?

I don't know if "innocent" is the right word, as I believe there was miscommunication, immaturity, and careless choices made on all sides of this bizarre divorce triangle, but it seems pretty unlikely now that Jared is the mastermind abuser Heidi made him out to be. All of the accusations about him intentionally soliciting underage nudes have also been rescinded.

 

[DefinitelyNotSane]

Charlie, the other underage accuser. Most of the links, along with a quick description, are at the bottom 'cause it's hard trying to keep up with all this shit.

Their real name is Caroline Pease. They live 30 minutes from Heidi, Jared, and Holly, in North Bend, Washington, is into the cosplay community, (so a possibility they know Heidi, either personally, or through a mutual cosplay friend, but this is admittedly pure speculation. Pretty damn convenient where they live though.) Charlie is also a goddamned furry and worse- a kinfolk. They started up a furry alt Twitter May 20th, 2019 and immediately pinned a link e-begging, claiming to live in an abusive household. This same e-begging has been going on for quite some time on their Tumblr. Speaking of, they have one furry Tumblr filled with NSFW content, an alt that is straight up a GameGrumps fangirl account, and a third that was deleted. The deleted one was claimed to be the 'main blog' yet it was nuked. On the two remaining, there's nothing actually stating age. Considering the 'main blog' was nuked, I'd bet that's the account that actually interacted with Jared.

Charlie is anti-JonTron, pushing the bullshit narrative "he supports Nazis!" Also anti-PewDiePie because "NAZI!!!1!!"

Quote from Egobanged account:

"i have autism along with processing problems. please tell me if i offend you or if ive done anything wrong!!"

They keep reblogging the same plea for money (https://archive.fo/QG4Lh) that shows up on their Furry Twitter alt for YEARS. It started, I think, in 2017, and they've been repeating this since then, moving from Tumblr to Twitter at least. Here's some of the fun quotes from each time:

"please please please help, anything helps https://www.paypal.me/CarolinePease "- 6/1/17

"PLEASE HELP ME IM A BABY " 5/31/17

"hey guys, i really need gas money. anything helps. paypal.me/carolinepease " 12/4/17

"#I GOTTA REBLOG THSI AGAIN IM POOR"- 9/24/17

"#pls commission me #i'm v poor "- 4/2/17

"#revlogging for the morning crowd #pls help i'm a baby "- 3/12/17

Did I mention they begged for this cash, claiming to be broke and using it to get out of an abusive household, making sure to call themselves 'queer' to elicit the idea it's abusive BECAUSE they are queer? And yet they had money for VIP tics to see GameGrumps at Seattle NSP Concert on 9/26/17?
https://archive.fo/N5fsC (Got the tickets 4/7/17)
https://archive.fo/jwXMt
And one of those e-begging reblogs happened 2 days before they were at Seattle NSP Concert? And another happened 5 days before they got the tickets? Of course you're fucking broke. You spent all your money on tickets and now need souvenir money.

Also turns borderline illiterate whenever they get the sadz and need empathy while trying to get money:

https://archive.fo/VdDgK - 4/6/17, 4 days after another round of e-begging

Everything I've read on their page shows Charlie is very into sex, and crosses boundaries in the older posts. They definitely talked to Jared, but it's pretty obvious they hide their age. I have not found it once on multiple accounts across multiple social medias. I found the day- January 17th- but not the year. I'm not saying Charlie isn't a child, but I am saying they definitely hid that from Jared. It's also pretty obvious they use sympathy to get free money, including from celebs. (https://archive.fo/f7j3q)

Also, at the very bottom is an alt Twitter account of Chai's.

The furry Twitter:


furaffinity account info:


Paypal account:


Alt Furry Account- https://archive.li/QwNKJ

Abusive Household E-begging- https://archive.fo/eMYBW

Commissions page- https://archive.fo/FaeXD

Proof It's Charlie's- https://archive.fo/rroxT

Furaffinity account- https://archive.li/8ZYSR

Paypal- https://www.paypal.me/carolinepease

Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/saamoyed/

Email- egobanged@yahoo.com

Tumblr #1- https://archive.fo/EDJGm

Goddamn kinfolk faggotry- https://archive.fo/5KVYo

Cosplaying- https://archive.fo/xjk8p

Linking from Dogveins to Egobanged Tumblr account- https://archive.fo/leBR4

Anti-PewDiePie- https://archive.fo/bmifk

Egobanged alt Tumblr which links to yet another alt Tumblr- https://archive.fo/zw8Xq

3rd Tumblr- http://www.capreolinaes.tumblr.com/ (Shut Down)

Birthday is January 17th- https://archive.fo/6g5HO

Was at Seattle NSP Concert 9/26/17 and had the money for VIP tickets- https://archive.fo/jwXMt

Tags- https://archive.fo/tMY4P

Charlie's sex life in 2017- https://archive.fo/iToCO

NSFW tag- https://archive.fo/0fYdX

Anti JonTron- https://archive.fo/MEUv8

Tumblr reblogged ebegging: https://archive.fo/QG4Lh

Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNjQcEuPUFcANrhJEcQOvjg/featured?disable_polymer=1

Constant non-stop E-begging- https://archive.fo/f7j3q

Chai's alt Twitter- https://mobile.twitter.com/fatbisexualwasp

 

[Zero Day Defense]

So Jared was innocent the entire time?

He ruined Sailor Mercury and unleashed the terror of his weiner pics into the greater world, so that's a hard "no".

Pretty damn convenient where they live though.) Charlie is also a goddamned furry and worse- a kinfolk.

Anything this person says is inadmissible evidence automatically.

They could tell me they had cereal for breakfast and I'd have to invent backwards time travel just to see them in action so I can at least be somewhat convinced that it was possible that they might have had cereal for breakfast.

Charlie's sex life in 2017- https://archive.fo/iToCO

so i’m very iffy about anal (i’ve never tried it, but i love vaginal sex) and i’m very embarrassed when i’m being touched down there, and so my gf (gf has a dick btw)

it's so... surreal.

 

[Perspicacity]

So Jared was innocent the entire time?

I'll break it down.

1. Heidi wanted to sleep with dudes other than Jared, she convinced Jared they should have an open marriage.
2. She encouraged Jared to start interacting with other chicks, which he apparently become very good at.
3. Heidi became very jealous, Jared starts a relationship with Holly at Heidi's insistence. Likely because she believes she will have more control in this situation.
4. Heidi finds she's quickly losing any control she thought she had and becomes insanely jealous and insecure.
5. Heidi tells Jared to stop seeing Holly. Jared unfortunately for Heidi, continues seeing Holly.
6. Heidi becomes increasingly hostile as she now realizes she has lost all control in the relationship. She aggressively tries to pull in the reins but everything is too far gone.
7. Jared finally realizes the marriage isn't working, files for the divorce.
8. Heidi now realizes she has lost full control of Jared. She's goes full meltdown and concocts an entire story where she is a victim of a horrible abusive Jared who lied to her about having an affair.
9. Everyone figures out she's just a cunt and liar. She literally set up the entire thing herself, there was no abuse, she facilitated the destruction of her own marriage. All stories involving pedophilia and illegal activity unravel quickly. (I mean a nudes for fans site is creepy but perfectly legal between adults).
10. Now we are at full denial mode with reality slowly shattering her world.

So yea basically Jared is innocent, she decided she wanted an open marriage then didn't like it. Jared filed for a divorce. There is no victim, marriages fail every day. What she decided to do was reprehensible and I hope they throw the book at her.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I'll break it down.

1. Heidi wanted to sleep with dudes other than Jared, she convinced Jared they should have an open marriage.
2. She encouraged Jared to start interacting with other chicks, which he apparently become very good at.
3. Heidi became very jealous, Jared starts a relationship with Holly at Heidi's insistence. Likely because she believes she will have more control in this situation.
4. Heidi finds she's quickly losing any control she thought she had and becomes insanely jealous and insecure.
5. Heidi tells Jared to stop seeing Holly. Jared unfortunately for Heidi, continues seeing Holly.
6. Heidi becomes increasingly hostile as she now realizes she has lost all control in the relationship. She aggressively tries to pull in the reins but everything is too far gone.
7. Jared finally realizes the marriage isn't working, files for the divorce.
8. Heidi now realizes she has lost full control of Jared. She's goes full meltdown and concocts an entire story where she is a victim of a horrible abusive Jared who lied to her about having an affair.
9. Everyone figures out she's just a cunt and liar. She literally set up the entire thing herself, there was no abuse, she facilitated the destruction of her own marriage. All stories involving pedophilia and illegal activity unravel quickly. (I mean a nudes for fans is creepy but perfectly legal between adults).
10. Now we are at full denial mode with reality slowly shattering her world.

So yea basically Jared is innocent, she decided she wanted an open marriage then didn't like it. Jared filed for a divorce. There is no victim, marriages fail every day. What she decided to do was reprehensible and I hope they throw the book at her.

So she at least set the stage for the entire internet being gaslit?

 

[DogEatDogFood]

Heidi has a consolation's price: he ruined the image of his ex-husband. She can live with Interweb's sympathy bucks but his husband's career is fucked. He will have to live in minimal wage for the rest of his life

 

[Just Some Dweller]

"he ruined the image of his ex-husband"

What are you implying my guy?

 

[DogEatDogFood]

What are you implying my guy?

That by starting this dumpster fire she eventually destroyed his career, my fella

 

[Just Some Dweller]

That by starting this dumpster fire she eventually destroyed his career, my fella

Oh sure, that was totally it. That being said, I wonder would the judge still be a dick and reward her alimony.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Heidi has a consolation's price: he ruined the image of his ex-husband. She can live with Interweb's sympathy bucks but his husband's career is fucked. He will have to live in minimal wage for the rest of his life

The moral of the story is that costhots are costhots are costhots. Also polyamory is a sham, and don't do nudes.

 

[sharklasers]

5. Heidi tells Jared to stop seeing Holly. Jared unfortunately for Heidi, continues seeing Holly.

We actually don't know this, it's only been an assumption. We only know of two times anything happened between Jared and Holly: February 2018, when Heidi was affirming it and allowed it to happen, and between October and December 2018. I don't remember who said it but Jared was trying to get a divorce around October 2018, and Heidi refused to let it happen. If you're actively trying to leave your wife and she won't let you, I don't really think you're cheating to begin a relationship with someone else. You're already done with the marriage and have made that clear. He may have realized Heidi was an abusive lunatic and Holly was who he really wanted to be with. Holly had only just divorced Ross too, and unless someone has other proof, we don't know of anything that happened between February and October.

I started to see if there was any evidence that they had, and was able to connect a few dots.

Jared says that he was trying to divorce Heidi in October, 2018, but Heidi was refusing to allow a divorce to happen:

It's possible that Jared knew his relationship with Heidi wasn't healthy, and wanted to be with Holly. He decides to leave Heidi and she becomes hostile, taking his career and reputation hostage. That means the texts about DCA were probably in response to Jared trying to divorce Heidi, where you can see he's broken and desperate. I think the red name is Chris of DCA so she was clearly threatening to ruin him publicly if he didn't do what she told him to do. Jared doesn't look like the abuser here at all, he looks like the victim, and Heidi is threatening to ruin everything he's worked to achieve if he leaves her.

Heidi's post about finding messages as proof that he was cheating, coincidentally, were from October to December, 2018. This would be after Jared tried to separate from Heidi and she began to hold his career hostage.

Jared still was with Heidi in December 2018, probably trapped with his career still held hostage:

Holly says the divorce was allowed only after Heidi obtained pictures and texts she could use as leverage for revenge. This was either the proof of Holly and Jared seeing eachother in October (after he tried to divorce her and she didn't let him), or the accusations of pedophilia which now have no proof.

It really looks like Jared started getting closer to Holly after he started the separation process, which isn't cheating to me. He wanted to be done with Heidi and made that known. She began to threaten him and he may have stayed out of fear, because she was willing to ruin him, Holly, and everything they had worked on. Holly and Jared say he tried leaving multiple times, so he may have been looking for an amicable way to divorce her. When Heidi knew it would be more beneficial to get a divorce instead of staying with him, she finally leaves on Jared's dime, then posts on Facebook, making him look like the villain of this story, while he makes a very generic post not accusing anyone on Twitter. Heidi had to get in front of it and went on the attack. Call him the abusive gaslighter. Say he was cheating. Blame Holly for the divorce instead of accepting that threats don't make for a happy marriage. She knows that the mobs will form against him and we saw her get exactly what she threatened: He lost hundreds of thousands of subscribers, his position on DCA, even his twitter verified status. His career on youtube may never return, and his presence will be seen as toxic.

I feel bad for Jared. The worst crime he may be guilty of is wanting to leave an abusive, vindictive wife for someone that genuinely seems to care about him. She threatened to ruin him if he left her, and when he finally did, she called what she did a "public execution", while saying she's a survivor and victim and he's the abusive one. Heidi played everyone.

 

[Perspicacity]

We actually don't know this, it's only been an assumption. We only know of two times anything happened between Jared and Holly: February 2018, when Heidi was affirming it and allowed it to happen, and between October and December 2018. I don't remember who said it but Jared was trying to get a divorce around October 2018, and Heidi refused to let it happen. If you're actively trying to leave your wife and she won't let you, I don't really think you're cheating to begin a relationship with someone else. You're already done with the marriage and have made that clear. He may have realized Heidi was an abusive lunatic and Holly was who he really wanted to be with. Holly had only just divorced Ross too, and unless someone has other proof, we don't know of anything that happened between February and October.

I started to see if there was any evidence that they had, and was able to connect a few dots.

Jared says that he was trying to divorce Heidi in October, 2018, but Heidi was refusing to allow a divorce to happen:

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It's possible that Jared knew his relationship with Heidi wasn't healthy, and wanted to be with Holly. He decides to leave Heidi and she becomes hostile, taking his career and reputation hostage. That means the texts about DCA were probably in response to Jared trying to divorce Heidi, where you can see he's broken and desperate. I think the red name is Chris of DCA so she was clearly threatening to ruin him publicly if he didn't do what she told him to do. Jared doesn't look like the abuser here at all, he looks like the victim, and Heidi is threatening to ruin everything he's worked to achieve if he leaves her.

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Jared still was with Heidi in December 2018, probably trapped with his career still held hostage:

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Holly says the divorce was allowed only after Heidi obtained pictures and texts she could use as leverage for revenge. This was either the proof of Holly and Jared seeing eachother in October (after he tried to divorce her and she didn't let him), or the accusations of pedophilia which now have no proof.

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It really looks like Jared started getting closer to Holly after he started the separation process, which isn't cheating to me. He wanted to be done with Heidi and made that known. She began to threaten him and he may have stayed out of fear, because she was willing to ruin him, Holly, and everything they had worked on. Holly and Jared say he tried leaving multiple times, so he may have been looking for an amicable way to divorce her. When Heidi knew it would be more beneficial to get a divorce instead of staying with him, she finally leaves on Jared's dime, then posts on Facebook, making him look like the villain of this story, while he makes a very generic post not accusing anyone on Twitter. Heidi had to get in front of it and went on the attack. Call him the abusive gaslighter. Say he was cheating. Blame Holly for the divorce instead of accepting that threats don't make for a happy marriage. She knows that the mobs will form against him and we saw her get exactly what she threatened: He lost hundreds of thousands of subscribers, his position on DCA, even his twitter verified status. His career on youtube may never return, and his presence will be seen as toxic.

I feel bad for Jared. The worst crime he may be guilty of is wanting to leave an abusive, vindictive wife for someone that genuinely seems to care about him. She threatened to ruin him if he left her, and when he finally did, she called what she did a "public execution", while saying she's a survivor and victim and he's the abusive one. Heidi played everyone.

Well if you and your wife have agreed to have sex with other people, it's not cheating either. Well we know that Heidi has actually pushed Jared to approach Holly and start a relationship. It can be assumed that for whatever reason Heidi was not happy with his relationship with Holly judging by her actions. I would also agree on the point that it looks like Jared has been trying to get out of this marriage for a long time but has been held hostage. It is very clear that she painstakingly gather as much shit as possible to blast him if he ever left her.

If I were to take a stab at at her motivations the whole point of her manipulations for a "polyamorous" marriage was to to control Jared. She wanted to fuck other guys and cuck him, while reaping all the benefits of being his wife. She encouraged him to branch out but it seems this backfired in a very big way (to everyone's surprise who read about it as well). He's awkward looking and I think she thought it would actually put her more in control. Also it seems all too calculated that she would have all this nudes, conversations, etc ready if he ever got out of line, she's been scheming a long time. This bitch is diabolical, that was clear from the start of all this.