🌟 Internet Famous Jared Knabenbauer / ProJared / SinJared, Heidi O'Ferrall / AtelierHeidi & Holly Conrad / CommanderHolly - Divorce Fiasco, trashfire extraordinaire

Who is the most "specially gifted" member of the gang?

  • Jared

    Głosy: 1 129 36,8%

  • PBG

    Głosy: 620 20,2%

  • Holly

    Głosy: 754 24,6%

  • Heidi

    Głosy: 478 15,6%

  • Null

    Głosy: 1 391 45,3%

  • Ross

    Głosy: 165 5,4%

  • Nulyu

    Głosy: 52 1,7%
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sharklasers powiedział(a):
This is why I believe Jared and Holly saying Heidi was the abusive one. She purposely twisted the story and left things out. She doesn't acknowledge that she fired the first salvo by making a very accusatory post on her Facebook page, where she's friends with many of his friends, family, colleagues, etc. His post was civil and she couldn't have that. When she could deflect, she did. When she couldn't, she'd get angry at people that questioned her and would ask why people are focusing on her rather than her "abusers". She couldn't go 2 days without posting as much as possible to remind everyone that she was the victim.

She may be the victim, and everything she's saying may be true, but at this point she's quickly removing any reason to believe her.
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The way Heidi acts towards the people with even the slightest bit of doubts shows her true colors. She's been on the offense since this day one, and she only tries to go on the defensive when anyone isn't taking her words as gospel. She's too quick to anger for her to be telling the complete truth and she's attempting to shift the blame so the abuser spotlight isn't on her. She wants Jared to be seen as the abuser and she wants to paint that so much so people won't even give his words the time of day. She doesn't want people reading into each person's story because it may make her story fall apart.
 
Wizards of the Coast silently deleted Dice, Camera, Action! (the D&D Show featuring Jared and Holly) from their weekly schedule.
So that one is a goner...
Seems Jared+Holly's stupidity just cost their three colleagues their jobs.
 
CMAnderson powiedział(a):
So I've read over a 100 pages of this thread and I still can't figure out who Null is and how PBG figures into this. Can someone summarize this for me? Plz and thanks in advance.
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Null is this site's admin and is not related to the drama. PBG initially criticised Heidi's announcement, then disavowed when pedo stuff emerged. Since Holly's domestic abuse claims included that people behind the scenes had witnessed/knew of Heidi's mistreatment of Jared, the natural avenue of thought is that PBG was one of the people who had seen Heidi treating Jared badly, making his distancing himself from Jared for political reasons look pretty bad (although when your friend is showing his wiener to minors I don't think they deserve much support).
 
Thanks. I just created this account to figure that out.

Dopey Cunt powiedział(a):
And this is why any prospect of any open relationship is AIDS.
Anyone who says they want an open relationship just means they want their partner's permission to be a cheatin' scumbag. I can't fathom why anyone would ever think it's a good idea to have an open relationship when 9 times out of 10 it ends is utter failure. Like, stop trying to cheat the system by keeping a side person for "emotional support" while banging 7 other people and trying to come up with whatever shit excuse to make yourself feel good and justify your shitty actions.
The moment Heidi suggested an open relationship is the moment she doomed their marriage.
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Wasn't it Heidi that wanted the open marriage?
 
CheezzyMach powiedział(a):
He hasn't said a peep in 3 weeks meanwhile Heidi's starting to self destruct because she can't STFU and leave well enough alone.
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It's honestly amazing. She keeps trying to push the "Oh, I'm trying so hard to move on but they just won't let me heal" narrative when anyone can see Jared has gone completely mum. Jared's career is already in ruins, but she doesn't know when to call it quits.

This is just the whole Channel Awesome thing all over again. That document ruined the site's image and caused like 90% of its contributors to drop out, and then Lupa decided to make herself look retarded and kept talking shit about the couple of guys that didn't join her bandwagon. She got better results than she could've ever asked for, but to this day she's still butthurt that she couldn't completely bury that website.
 
Gilson powiedział(a):
I'm surprised at how many people decided to start assuming that this time, Holly was telling the truth. Do you really think that someone who wasnt cheating on her husband would divorce them to move closer to their fuck buddy? Because even in the most extremely degenerate idea of an open marriage, I'm decently certain that falling in love with someone who isnt your main partner to the point where it is a factor in a divorce is still cheating. Even if he straight up said she could get side dick, what happened would still be cheating, and things dont seem likely that it was open, considering the type of relationship portrayed in the VRChat interview.
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Polyamory, which this open marriage stuff comes from, means multiple romances. If you're okay with your partner having other romantic interests and let them know, it really isn't cheating in the classical sense when they have another romantic interest. The fact that people's monogamous nature kicks in eventually and they choose one or the other is just an example that this crazy stuff doesn't work.

I agree Ross probably didn't agree to an open marriage, so it was cheating. I just wanted to explore the concept in the quoted post.
 
Luigi powiedział(a):
Degeneracy should be discouraged.

It's only fair if in his pursuit of fan pussy he ended up in legal trouble. He more than anyone knows his audience, and I think telling the judge "I didn't know she was underage" doesn't work.
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Everything ProJared is accused of with the underaged stuff is strict liability. Meaning he doesn't have to know they were underaged but merely have asked for the nudes. The girl could have even lied about her age and he would be technically guilty of soliciting nudes from a minor. How this passes the hurdle of mens rea that is supposed to be the backbone of all criminal statutes is beyond me.
 
All I can think about is how lucky Ross, a member of Game Grumps, is for dodging such a massive bullet almost entirely
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Jared: Pedophile who publicly announced his divorce on Twitter before his wife even knew
Holly: Whore who cheated on her loving husband with their coworker
Heidi: Abusive manipulator who suggested polyamory, but took it back once she got jealous
Normalboots: Was made aware of the whole situation well in advance, but didn't do anything until it was made public

The only innocent person here is my nigga RubberRoss. Burn everyone else to the ground.
 
Manly-Chicken powiedział(a):
Jared: Pedophile who publicly announced his divorce on Twitter before his wife even knew
Holly: Whore who cheated on her loving husband with their coworker
Heidi: Abusive manipulator who suggested polyamory, but took it back once she got jealous
Normalboots: Was made aware of the whole situation well in advance, but didn't do anything until it was made public

The only innocent person here is my nigga RubberRoss. Burn everyone else to the ground.
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Heidi posted on facebook about the divorce two days before Jared posted on twitter about it. She planned to go public with it once she could get all her facts straight.
 
Manly-Chicken powiedział(a):
Jared: Pedophile who publicly announced his divorce on Twitter before his wife even knew
Holly: Whore who cheated on her loving husband with their coworker
Heidi: Abusive manipulator who suggested polyamory, but took it back once she got jealous
Normalboots: Was made aware of the whole situation well in advance, but didn't do anything until it was made public

The only innocent person here is my nigga RubberRoss. Burn everyone else to the ground.
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This isn't accurate. Jared's wife knew and had announced it to almost a thousand people on her facebook page before Jared posted it on twitter. The pedo claims have been completely unsubstantiated. Holly said that Ross was aware and others have said their relationship was open or "loose". Heidi, yeah. Normalboots only found out about the allegations a few weeks prior to all of this, so they may have been investigating before taking action, with Jared being one of the people that rebooted the site.

Agreed on burning it all down though, once we get Ross as far from this as possible.
 
Really Jared posting the divorce online as he did only makes sense, imo, if he was trying to cause Heidi to go public before she wanted to. This is likely proof that Jared knew she was manipulative and planned to ruin him over the divorce. By forcing her to go public before she planned to, she couldn't cross her t's and dot her i's on all of the lies, which is would be why so many were found.
 
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CMAnderson powiedział(a):
Really Jared posting the divorce online as he did only makes sense, imo, if he was trying to cause Heidi to go public before she wanted to. This is likely proof that Jared knew she was manipulative and planned to ruin him over the divorce. By forcing her to go public before she planned to, she couldn't cross her t's and dot her i's on all of the lies, which is would be why so many were found.
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Why are you responding to your own post?

I have a theory that she wanted to split the assets first, and then post about it, so she couldn't lose anything during the divorce. If she attacked him too soon, he could likely fight her on it and a good lawyer could possibly allow him to keep all his money and all the leverage in the divorce. Instead, she took a civil post and went scorched earth. With the temporary restraining order in place, and her decision to constantly post, he may be able to argue that she wasn't respecting the guidelines of the restraining order and was purposely intending to destroy him and his career. She even gloated that she was fine to take his money away from him, which divorce courts don't look kindly on. She may end up with nothing.
 
sharklasers powiedział(a):
Why are you responding to your own post?

I have a theory that she wanted to split the assets first, and then post about it, so she couldn't lose anything during the divorce. If she attacked him too soon, he could likely fight her on it and a good lawyer could possibly allow him to keep all his money and all the leverage in the divorce. Instead, she took a civil post and went scorched earth. With the temporary restraining order in place, and her decision to constantly post, he may be able to argue that she wasn't respecting the guidelines of the restraining order and was purposely intending to destroy him and his career. She even gloated that she was fine to take his money away from him, which divorce courts don't look kindly on. She may end up with nothing.
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I think he was going to fight to keep his money regardless. That's typically what happens.
 
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Jared is more bent than a crowbar
 

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