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- 11 Kwi 2019
Just feminism in general.
You got your male feminist being a creep, and then your female feminist claiming victimhood while being complicit in the situation but eventually not getting her way.
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Just feminism in general.
You got your male feminist being a creep, and then your female feminist claiming victimhood while being complicit in the situation but eventually not getting her way.
Tanner Glass
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- Dołączono
- 27 Paź 2016
I'm just merely pointing out that nothing dug up on Heidi would even partially suggest she was actually into, or actively participating in, polyamory. There are piles of stories and pictures of Jared and not a single one of Heidi. No one has dated her, no one has seen her dating, no one has risque pictures of her, there isn't even a single social media post where she's like "yeah I'm about that." - the closest we've gotten is her suggesting "a threesome sounds fun but the idea of my husband with someone else is a huge turn off".
As for why she didn't leave? She doesn't have much of a spine, apparently. It isn't that uncommon, especially in polyamory relationships or abusive ones, for the smaller party to feel responsible even when they aren't. It usually stems from a lack of self-confidence and self-worth that's remarkably easy to exploit.
I see no reason why someone who would be grossed out by being around their husband when he's banging other girls would suddenly be into polyamory without being coerced into it.
Again, none of these people have come out or forward about it. There's no actual evidence she participated in polyamory beyond "Jared you can fuck other chicks if you don't leave me" outside of Jared's most recent statement.
We also don't know when/how Ross found out about being cucked, but it doesn't seem like it went on for long before he found out. This shit happened, they got divorced, and Ross moved on a much bigger man for it. Heidi could have been one of the people to tell him, for all we know.
Considering how much Jared was getting propositioned (at cons, via social media, in D&D groups) I don't see any way she could actually think that. I realize it's common in poly, but most dudes in poly don't have a huge fan base of 1,000,000+ mainly young people. Even if only 1% of his fanbase were girls that wanted to bang him - that's 10,000 people for him to drop loads on.
sharklasers
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 18 Maj 2019
She may have overplayed her hand. If she lied about situations to make them seem even worse, it doesn't work well in her favor. If she knew about Holly and Jared being a thing, then it's likely she said nothing to Ross which is pretty scummy too. If she said she was never OK with things that she was, or at least in some ways was, she starts losing a lot of the benefit she's been given here. It keeps popping up too. Claiming she was there from the start, before he got famous and made money. You can see from both of their accounts that she met up with him at an event after he was already well known through ScrewAttack, and was making money doing gaming videos. Drag him on the shit he did, fuck him up, he probably deserves it, but if you want the court of public appeal on your side, you have to be honest even if it makes you look a little bad in the process.
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- Dołączono
- 12 Kwi 2019
Heidi is being malicious about it, no doubt. The more we learn, the less I believe her to just be a wronged and lawful woman who's been cheated on.
Why did she never say she knew about her husband wanting to fuck a married woman (Holly), all the while she claims cheating is the biggest crime in the world ?
Why did she never say she even encouraged it, behind Ross's back ?
Why did she never say she was the one suggesting going into a polygamy relationship and fucked other males first ?
Why did she never say she was fucking other males WHILE she was forbidding Jared for fucking Holly ?
Why did she never say the reason she was upset with Holly isn't because she was, you know, married, but because she was upset Holly had feeling for Jared ?
Worse than that, why are we learning all of that through Jared statement and her confirming it later-on ? Why didn't she made it clear herself in the first place ?
From her first reaction, I thought she was a lawful woman being cheated by her pedo and manipulative husband. But the more we learn, the more she appears as an unstable women and the less she seems like an innocent person. She basically manipulated the narrative. We're far from the picture she painted in the first place, which was the reason so many people took her side. There's also the fact that each time Jared made a statement, as dumb as it is, she always confirms everything he says, while still playing it like she's in full defensive mode.
I also really doubt she wasn't aware Jared wasn't into underaged stuff. That's not something you learn as late as she did, while being married. It's not like he was even good at hiding it. She barely insisted on that particular point while it being the biggest elephant in the room. Who cares your husband cheated on you while being on a polygamy relationship ? That's your shit Heidi. What we should care about is all those minors being involved. If those allegation are true, not only she 100% knew, but she's probably complicit and to me, that's the biggest problem as far as she's concerned.
The biggest red flag to me is how she decide to spend all her fucking tweets and the attention she got to about how she's a victim, while barely speaking about minors being involved and manipulated (for real this time) in sending nude pictures and stuff. She maybe made one or two tweet about that, while spending dozens of tweets about how Jared wronged her feelings.
I don't care about Heidi's feeling, I don't care about her status as a victim of "abuse". All I want to know if wether she was a complicit in her husband soliciting minors or not. Did she know ? Did she close her eyes on it ? Why isn't she spending more time adressing that point ?
Guts Gets Some
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 9 Lis 2018
Wow, you mean she's all bark and no bite and doing it more for bandwagon points than any real conviction to the cause????
Truly a surprise.
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- Dołączono
- 15 Maj 2019
She hasn't, and she can't, because that's illegal. Jared would definitely press revenge porn charges against her if she had posted any pictures herself. Every picture of Jared, including the sexts, was leaked by the fans he was sending them to - and Jared doesn't have the resources or the balls to go after all of them.
In fact, Heidi specifically stated in her thread that she can't post any of the photo evidence she has of Jared's actions/Jared and Holly's affair for legal reasons - most likely, she has to use them for the divorce proceedings, and so she needs to keep that shit under wraps. (And, ironically, I can't find the tweet now. Does anyone have it?)
He was fucking one of her closest friends behind her back for a year. Fuck maturity at that point; the fact that she's going full tilt into "take no prisoners" is both admirable in itself and completely understandable. It's a wonder that she hasn't just straight up killed one of them at this point.
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@anonsocio Prove me wrong about bisexuals and polyams.
I've yet to meet one that isn't a fucking degenerate prick. At least homosexuals have devotion to one another and form long-lasting ties based on a foundation of love and companionship. I can respect that. What I can't respect are people that sleep around and change their entire persona based on which way the wind blows. And our society is coddling them and telling them they're normal and right. These people are broken individuals that need help.
I've yet to meet one that isn't a fucking degenerate prick. At least homosexuals have devotion to one another and form long-lasting ties based on a foundation of love and companionship. I can respect that. What I can't respect are people that sleep around and change their entire persona based on which way the wind blows. And our society is coddling them and telling them they're normal and right. These people are broken individuals that need help.
- Dołączono
- 25 Mar 2018
All we know is she knew about the original lewd tumblr, she asked him to shut it down in 2017. Jared kept going in secret on snapchat and maybe 1 other super secret blog. I doubt she knew the full extent of his sneaking. She probably thought he would be smart enough to not get in trouble with minors. That was one of many mistakes she made. She should have never trusted Jared.
sharklasers
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 18 Maj 2019
So she did have a boyfriend for a while, and admits that they attempted polyamory. You were in a "relationship" and "attempted polyamory" but you were only with someone in a platonic way and there was no one else? It doesn't matter if his actions weren't in the same league, your statements don't add up.
- Dołączono
- 12 Kwi 2019
It would have worked if Heidi didn't know Jared did fuck Holly behind Ross's back.
Remember, from her own admission, in that tweet ; https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidi/status/1129562937964654592
Despite what she said prior Jared statement, she's confirming what he says : she knew about his relationship with Holly and only felt wrong about it when Holly admitted to not have feeling for Ross anymore...
Heidi not only knew, but was ok with Jared fucking Holly, until she (Heidi) learnt that Holly had feeling "only" for Jared (and not Ross) and went 180 on it. Ross learnt about it way after (on his own admission) and tried to forgive Holly.
Heidi is acting like cheating is the biggest crime in the world, that she was wronged, but why didn't Heidi run to Ross to told him HER husband was fucking Ross's wife behind his back ? If Heidi was a good person, she would have told Ross about the situation and wouldn't have been ok with her husband fucking Ross's wife while he was in the dark about it. She knew Jared fucked Holly (confirmed in her tweet, despite the narrative she built from the beginning), she encouraged it and kept Ross in the dark about it, despite him being her bff.
The most funny thing is, on another tweet, she said the following : https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidi/status/1129572660940279808
Ok, but where was Ross's consent in all of that ? Heidi knew and consented in Jared putting his dick inside Holly before she admitted to have feeling for Jared. Ross didn't consented to ANY of that.
Heidi clearly overplayed her hand here.
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I'm more concerned about why these people are still talking about this on Twitter and making public statements.
Did any of them get a lawyer? Has anyone heard from their lawyers in the last couple days? Do we need to call the police to do a welfare check? I'm worried about their lawyers, guys.
- Dołączono
- 25 Mar 2018
https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidi/status/1129803995013308416
Think this lays to rest the debate on who wanted the poly relationship. Pretty obvious it was Heidi. I still wish she'd give her reasons for wanting to open their marriage, whether she felt it was more for her benefit or Jareds.
Think this lays to rest the debate on who wanted the poly relationship. Pretty obvious it was Heidi. I still wish she'd give her reasons for wanting to open their marriage, whether she felt it was more for her benefit or Jareds.
- Dołączono
- 5 Kwi 2019
oof, not a good look heidi
sharklasers
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 18 Maj 2019
If she had just said "I did choose to. That part is true, but I also chose to end it because of the things he was doing outside of our agreement," she would have saved face. Instead, by angrily dismissing and attacking a simple question of who opened up the marriage, it's starting to sound like she was the one that wanted to and he went along with it. Didn't she claim that she was against poly?
- Dołączono
- 25 Mar 2018
I guess she was against threesomes, not poly.
- Dołączono
- 12 Kwi 2019
And there it is. Basically confirming what I told earlier, she's the one who "opened" the marriage. She's the one who decided to stop when Jared found a new pussy to smash. She barely had any problems when she was the one who got the better end of the deal.
From what I can grasp, it all seems clear to me now.
- She wanted to legally cheat.
- She "opened" the relationship so she could fuck other males while being married. Like she said, she was fully dependant on Jared's money.
- Jared agreed, but being an ugly male struggled to find other bitches to smash, while she was being smashed left and right.
- Heidi is happy. Her walking wallet is dependant on her for sex and she can smash with other males. Everything is fine.
- Jared start to engage in "virtual" sex by sending pictures and stuff to his ugly fans.
- She knows and doesn't care (on her own admission). She even laugh about it.
- She encourages him to engage a relationship with Holly, so she can still feel good about legally cheating... sorry, being poly. Holly was ugly and dumb, so no problem whatsoever for her.
- She found out Holly has feeling ONLY toward Jared and didn't care about Ross anymore. https://twitter.com/AtelierHeidi/status/1129562937964654592 Heidi understand that her walking wallet could divorce to go with Holly, she got mad she might not live the same lifestyle anymore and decide to go into full rage mode publicly.
It all makes perfect sens to me.
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anonsocio
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 3 Lut 2018
Not gonna dwell on this since it's not the proper thread, feel free to pm me if you actually want to have a conversation. I actually agree with you on the poly point, I literally have never seen it work. I disagree on the bi people- plenty are in monogamous relationships with men and or women, depending. A lot of bi peeps are married, and don't cheat, or feel the need to "have both at once". The only ones you're seeing are probably dumpster fires for other reasons, not just them being bi.
sharklasers
kiwifarms.net
- Dołączono
- 18 Maj 2019
The irony hypocrisy of Heidi claiming Jared is deflecting and distracting from things that may make him look bad, while she deflects and distracts from people asking questions where the answers may make her look bad.
Every poly relationship I've seen ends badly, or it's two unfuckable wrecks that use being poly or open to try to get threesomes or sleep around because they're unhappy but can't bring themselves to leave. Bi, its really down to how much they care that they're bi. If it's just a trait and doesn't define them, then you won't see many issues. It's the ones that think being bi means you need to fuck every single thing that you can, those are the trainwrecks.
Every poly relationship I've seen ends badly, or it's two unfuckable wrecks that use being poly or open to try to get threesomes or sleep around because they're unhappy but can't bring themselves to leave. Bi, its really down to how much they care that they're bi. If it's just a trait and doesn't define them, then you won't see many issues. It's the ones that think being bi means you need to fuck every single thing that you can, those are the trainwrecks.
- Dołączono
- 3 Maj 2019
Ha, so she demanded rights to be a slut and turn her husband into a cuck and then decided unilaterally to end the "open marriage" once the tables were flipped and Jared became the slut and Heidi the cuck. What a bitch.