💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Allanon]

Funimation baffles me. I mean, maybe if they have rock solid proof of some horrible things he's done they can worm their way out of it, but...even then I'm not sure they're lawsuit proof. I'm pretty sure even if they're safe from defamation, they wouldn't be off the hook for TI with prospective business. And with Todd it's even more baffling, because there's no way they have proof he raped anyone, so they have no possible escape.

Are they really this incompetent, somehow? Why do you insist on going full speed ahead? Do they legitimately think Sony will jump in with their mega-lawyers and save them even if they're rat-dirty, so they don't have to worry about the law? Because this isn't a criminal trial, and it's a lot harder to flex your money and make the jury doubt your guilt enough to rule in your favor in a civil trial where the standard is 'more likely than not'.

 

[エリス]

Funimation baffles me. I mean, maybe if they have rock solid proof of some horrible things he's done they can worm their way out of it, but...even then I'm not sure they're lawsuit proof. I'm pretty sure even if they're safe from defamation, they wouldn't be off the hook for TI with prospective business. And with Todd it's even more baffling, because there's no way they have proof he raped anyone, so they have no possible escape.

Are they really this incompetent, somehow? Why do you insist on going full speed ahead? Do they legitimately think Sony will jump in with their mega-lawyers and save them even if they're rat-dirty, so they don't have to worry about the law? Because this isn't a criminal trial, and it's a lot harder to flex your money and make the jury doubt your guilt enough to rule in your favor in a civil trial where the standard is 'more likely than not'.

Stupid people aren't smart.

 

[beardium]

What's funny is that apparently the deleted tweets ARE Ron ...'s parody account. Soye and Homelessburg plotted, but then an ISWV person reported Soye's tweets for impersonation because it was 'causing problems' and they got deleted...which led to actual Toye stumbling into the trap and liking the parody tweet.

I find it doubly funny both because of accidentally trapping Toye, and the fact that Ron Soye accidentally simulated Ron Toye's blocking tendency.

Lovely gay ops

 

[muh_moobs]

Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing VIZ release more SJ conent, especially DB stuff. But I worry what that'll do to the entire market.

Markets regulate themselves, pussy. You're a consumer, if the market gets oversaturated, everything gets cheaper, which would be good for you, the consumer. Just let it happen.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Down syndrome is only down, when it's down with what PULL likes.

Edit: lol@ faggot mod

 

[Comicsgeist]

This guy uploaded a video showing that they are removing Todd's name now too, thought it was a rumor but it's real it looks like
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WT39bZOG4NcSo I guess they realize that ruining Todd in a public way like Vic is a bad idea now that Vic has more supporters than them
wonder if they will try and quietly ruin todd, like maybe quietly stop hiring him or something and try to phase him out of the industry now that they realize this brigade of virtue signalling isn't working

Hmmm. I assume that VA's are members of the Actor's Guild?
If so, it has very strict rules regards credits.
George Lucas had to resign from the Director's Guild over his decision to omit opening credits in Empire Strikes Back and was fined a quater of a million dollars just for refusing to put the directors name at the opening of the film. There are a lot of rules regarding credits in the industry that may even be in actors contracts. It would be interesting to know if Rooster Teeth and Funimation are on dangerous ground legally for removing an actor's credit from work they have participated in.

 

[Captain Manning]

Funimation baffles me. I mean, maybe if they have rock solid proof of some horrible things he's done they can worm their way out of it, but...even then I'm not sure they're lawsuit proof. I'm pretty sure even if they're safe from defamation, they wouldn't be off the hook for TI with prospective business. And with Todd it's even more baffling, because there's no way they have proof he raped anyone, so they have no possible escape.

I think with Haberkorn it doesn't have anything to do with the Thotwhore shit. How much play has that really even gotten? Not much. Todd hasn't been fired from shit. He's still doing shit with WatchMojo.

I think it's because he's basically thrown in with Vic and Nick, and he's retained Ty as an attorney. They're worried about what he might do. They're trying to warn him off.

 

[muh_moobs]

Godfather. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPskYVBqdNw

"Sabat-san sleeps with the fishes".

 

[Captain Manning]

Hmmm. I assume that VA's are members of the Actor's Guild?
If so, it has very strict rules regards credits.
George Lucas had to resign from the Director's Guild over his decision to omit opening credits in Empire Strikes Back and was fined a quater of a million dollars just for refusing to put the directors name at the opening of the film. There are a lot of rules regarding credits in the industry that may even be in actors contracts. It would be interesting to know if Rooster Teeth and Funimation are on dangerous ground legally for removing an actor's credit from work they have participated in.

Some of the VAs are definitely SAG/AFTRA, but Funimation isn't a union shop, so the union likely can't do shit for them.

In fact, they might even give the VAs grief for their non-union projects if they try to complain. You're technically not supposed to work non-SAG if you're SAG, but many do anyways.

 

[エリス]

Hmmm. I assume that VA's are members of the Actor's Guild?
If so, it has very strict rules regards credits.
George Lucas had to resign from the Director's Guild over his decision to omit opening credits in Empire Strikes Back and was fined a quater of a million dollars just for refusing to put the directors name at the opening of the film. There are a lot of rules regarding credits in the industry that may even be in actors contracts. It would be interesting to know if Rooster Teeth and Funimation are on dangerous ground legally for removing an actor's credit from work they have participated in.

You mean SAG? No, VAs aren't members of SAG. Voice Actors in California are unionized but in Texas they aren't (it's a very anti-union state in general) which is why Funimation is based there.

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

I don't think the Elon Musk thing will go anywhere but it's hard not to find the situation amusing, especially from his perspective.

Elon: I like Full Metal Alchemist.

Kickvic: Fuck you, you rape apologist!

IStandWithVic: Hey cool! Elon might be a Vic supporter! This is awesome!

As he watched the two sides butt heads, one thought reigns within Elon Musk's mind...

 

[The Silverflame]

looking arround for possible iago leads, looking for older stuff where vic was refered to vic as a pedophile i found this thread from 2017 where some intresting things were brought up (https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1677484) especially by the person referred to as comic_sans. This same comic_sans also linked to this tumbler from 2014 of suppossed "evidence" of vic being a "homophobic pedofile" (https://thetrashiestoftrash.tumblr..../vic-mignognas-misconduct-the-visual-evidence). I know this isnn't the first time that people have tried to bring things against vic, and that this may likely not be connected to the parties of the lawsuit, but at the same time we might as well leave no stone unturned.

 

[boulderblundermatt90]

Some of the VAs are definitely SAG/AFTRA, but Funimation isn't a union shop, so the union likely can't do shit for them.

In fact, they might even give the VAs grief for their non-union projects if they try to complain. You're technically not supposed to work non-SAG if you're SAG, but many do anyways.

Yeeeaaah, credits are a norm in the industry for a reason. not giving proper credit can bring plenty of legal trouble to the company that dares. including the IRS getting interested in audits.

 

[MyMothersHusbandsWifesSon]

Oh yeah I remember that. wasn't it both distributing and possession? Also, does this mean the PayPal reached it's goal?

I believe he had a torrent client seeding the CP. He apparently tried passing it off as "I bought a new HDD and I didn't know it was on there", but if that were the case, then you wouldn't be actively running the torrent client that you allegedly didn't know was on the drive.

 

[muh_moobs]

Archive sites are fine on my end. Are you a eurofag? heard the EU was bitching about a bunch of archive sites the other day and wanted to take them down.

Not a surprise, really. With archives around, how can you declare war on Eurasia at 9am, then than them for allying against Eastasia at 2pm? Fuckin' EU . . .

 

[ShaggyDawg]

I believe he had a torrent client seeding the CP. He apparently tried passing it off as "I bought a new HDD and I didn't know it was on there", but if that were the case, then you wouldn't be actively running the torrent client that you allegedly didn't know was on the drive.

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Also why didn't he wipe the hard drive when he bought it if he was building a new PC from scratch and bought a second hand HDD. I'm sure even a noob PC gamer would know to do this

 

[Captain Manning]

You mean SAG? No, VAs aren't members of SAG. Voice Actors in California are unionized but in Texas they aren't (it's a very anti-union state in general) which is why Funimation is based there.

This is somewhat misleading.

VAs absolutely have to be SAG if they want to work on union projects (dubbing or otherwise). A lot of the VAs Funimation uses also work on projects outside Funimation (and Texas). There are also non-union projects in California. A good chunk of what Bang Zoom does is non-union. They are based in Burbank.

Examples of VAs I absolutely know are SAG include Travis Willingham and D.C. Douglas. Haberkorn is also SAG according to his resume (I dunno about Vic).

The issue here is not whether the VAs are SAG members. The issue is whether the project is union and has what they call the "Basic Agreement" with SAG. The reason Vic and Haberkorn are likely fucked in terms of getting SAG to help them here is that Funimation has no such projects with agreements with SAG. The entitlements and protections Vic and Todd get with Funimation are governed by their employment contracts with Funimation.

EDIT: You can also have labor unions in Texas. You just can't have a "closed shop" (that's where Texas' strong right-to-work provision comes in).

Yeeeaaah, credits are a norm in the industry for a reason. not giving proper credit can bring plenty of legal trouble to the company that dares. including the IRS getting interested in audits.

It could very well cause issues, but SAG isn't gonna save 'em from Funimation. That's the long and short of it.

 

[king of pickles]

Oh yeah I remember that. wasn't it both distributing and possession? Also, does this mean the PayPal reached it's goal?

His mother shelled out 6500. Apart from that there wasn't much in the Paypal. When she made the Gofundme and tha Paypal Sarah Wiedenheft left out the distribution part and only told that "used hdd" story. The charges are possession of cp and the arraignment is scheduled for tomorrow.

 

[NQ 952]

His mother shelled out 6500. Apart from that there wasn't much in the Paypal. When she made the Gofundme and tha Paypal Sarah Wiedenheft left out the distribution part and only told that "used hdd" story. The charges are possession of cp and the arraignment is scheduled for tomorrow.

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I wonder if any of these people that post bail for someone else, especially cows here, ever consider that bail money could be considered a taxable gift.

 

[Archeopthryx]

I've only put together a computer twice and I know that you could not distribute porn that is "put in there by the original owner" without manually going into the torrent network via your torrent client since he can't use the OS that was installed in the hard drive, the installation of the torrent client if it was a fresh install from the top down would not know where to find the file to distribute, and you have to download the torrent information manually by looking for it in the internet.

Did I get anything wrong with this?