💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

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Urbanmech powiedział(a):
April 15th event?
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He might have meant a few days earlier, but he teased "an event" before the lawsuits would drop. Nobody is exactly sure what it is meant to be, some thought it might have been related to Meyer v Waid or even Shane turning up on Kiwifarms.

Somebody mentioned a pages long ethics complaint is in the mail... maybe it's that?
 
Jub-Jub powiedział(a):
He might have meant a few days earlier, but he teased "an event" before the lawsuits would drop. Nobody is exactly sure what it is meant to be, some thought it might have been related to Meyer v Waid or even Shane turning up on Kiwifarms.

Somebody mentioned a pages long ethics complaint is in the mail... maybe it's that?
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Yea Manning said it was Soye's 400 page letter

1Tonka_Truck powiedział(a):
Whatever discovery BHBH got that delayed filing a few days. My bet is still on proof they claimed Vic was under criminal investigation and charges were pending.
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That one makes the most sense then, the Iago evidence would be juicy
 
So the main moderator for the thread on ANN just dumped this lovely novel. This is basically the person in charge of controlling the narrative on ANN. Basically, Ron Toye says things will be okay, so he believes him. Also they served on a jury one time and they know things.

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They also have a thread here, albeit a small one.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/matthew-maya-hollingsworth-madscientist212-utenaanthy.35238/
 
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Why is it so difficult for these people to grasp the concept of an "agent"?

How can they not understand that it is now up to Funimation to prove that Ron was not an agent? How can they not understand that if Funimation successfully establishes that Ron was not an agent, all that does is make Ron personally liable for damages instead of Funimation possibly paying the settlement tab for all of the defendants in order to end this quickly?
 
repentance powiedział(a):
Why is it so difficult for these people to grasp the concept of an "agent"?

How can they not understand that it is now up to Funimation to prove that Ron was not an agent? How can they not understand that if Funimation successfully establishes that Ron was not an agent, all that does is make Ron personally liable for damages instead of Funimation possibly paying the settlement tab for all of the defendants in order to end this quickly?
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Wouldn't it be past that though? Nick made it sound like they never tried to clear the air about Ron's status before the lawsuit dropped, and that was all they had to do before the lawsuit got filed.
 
Pedro Sanchez powiedział(a):
So the main moderator for the thread on ANN just dumped this lovely novel. This is basically the person in charge of controlling the narrative on ANN. Basically, Ron Toye says things will be okay, so he believes him. Also they served on a jury one time and they know things.

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They also have a thread here, albeit a small one.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/matthew-maya-hollingsworth-madscientist212-utenaanthy.35238/
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Once again, people don't understand the concept of agency when it comes to law. Also once again, they think Sony is going to defend these idiots when it's extremely more cost effective to throw at least one of the defendants under the bus.

"There are multiple degrees of separation between Funimation and Ron"
Isn't there exactly one degree of separation, though? Just Monica? Does it even matter if there are multiple separations or not when we're talking defamatory statements? Hell, since he's got confidential information on the investigation, doesn't that separation look even worse?

I'm having a hard time with the logic behind the best case/worst case argument here. To me it'd look like this:

Vic has been accused by multiple people of sexual harassment and assault, and big daddy Sony's investigation came back inconclusive
-Vic has directly worked for Funimation, directly making the company large amounts of money just recently with the Broly movie
-Best case scenario - Vic stays, because we don't have solid enough reason to fire him (yet)
-2nd best case - Vic is fired (and actually is a predator), because we did the right thing in expelling a dangerous element from our company
-2nd worst case - Vic stays (and actually is a predator), because we keep raking in cash until we have more solid proof
-Worst case scenario - Vic is fired, because we lose money on a guy who actually didn't do anything
-Bonus Round Worst Worst case scenario - Vic is fired and we make stupidly condemning statements to the public for woke points, because we're about to get our assholes sodomized by a lawsuit and big daddy Sony probably isn't going to save us
 
Pedro Sanchez powiedział(a):
So the main moderator for the thread on ANN just dumped this lovely novel. This is basically the person in charge of controlling the narrative on ANN. Basically, Ron Toye says things will be okay, so he believes him. Also they served on a jury one time and they know things.

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They also have a thread here, albeit a small one.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/matthew-maya-hollingsworth-madscientist212-utenaanthy.35238/
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A fake troon that stalks and harasses women on twitter is running the ANN threads
Amazing
Edit: accidently wrote threats instead of threads
 
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Pedro Sanchez powiedział(a):
So the main moderator for the thread on ANN just dumped this lovely novel. This is basically the person in charge of controlling the narrative on ANN. Basically, Ron Toye says things will be okay, so he believes him. Also they served on a jury one time and they know things.

Wyświetl załącznik 733315


They also have a thread here, albeit a small one.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/matthew-maya-hollingsworth-madscientist212-utenaanthy.35238/
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Unless this cretin, whoever it is, discussed their reasoning addressing the terms "apparent authority" and "ratification," they quite simply can be ignored. I'm not even going to read that stupidity since I'm virtually certain they didn't.
 
Pedro Sanchez powiedział(a):
So the main moderator for the thread on ANN just dumped this lovely novel. This is basically the person in charge of controlling the narrative on ANN. Basically, Ron Toye says things will be okay, so he believes him. Also they served on a jury one time and they know things.

Wyświetl załącznik 733315


They also have a thread here, albeit a small one.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/matthew-maya-hollingsworth-madscientist212-utenaanthy.35238/
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To summarize Mad Scientist: TL;DR, "LAH LAH LAH I WAS ON A JURY LAH LAH LAH VIC IS TOTALLY GUILTY BECAUSE MY BOSSES RUN A SMEAR CAMPAIGN WITH DICKS IN ASSES WITH FUNIMATION AND CONTROL THE CRITIC GATE OF ANIME RECOMMENDATIONS LAH LAH LAH OH ME AND MY FORUM FUCKBUDDIES SURE AREN'T CENSORING POSTS THAT CHALLENGE OUR AGENDA LAH LAH LAH"

If there's anything to legit hate on weeaboos for, it's the fact that a lot of them don't ever do their fucking studies and homework and eat whatever shit comes off of the tube as "fact". I don't even care how smart any of you faggot weebs per the exacto definition and stereotype match or don't match are reading this and smuggly tossing it like the faggot tossers you are, because intrinsically weeaboo faggotry always consists of ignorant dumbfuckery that's always the opposite of the reality and conditions that allows for what magic the anime comes to offer. Like what happens and exists in real life that inspires said shows and comics in the fucking first place that SHOULD be studied.

It's always lovely to know that this doesn't just leak into the reality of Japanese culture, society, civilization, and everyday life, but to such things like the aspects of the nation you hail from and major applied practical common sense, street smarts, wisdom, and logic. Even to places like Ass News Network and their shithead anime weeaboo elitist oldfaggotry, they still run hard on self centered ass tossing head in ground levels of ignorance. Elitists like these fuckers are much much worse than preteen hormone pubescence addled weeaboos however, because they don't see their current state of mind as a flawed and most ill state of being. Instead, they carry on with it like a plague zombie, tainting and infesting anywhere they touch and meander to, and expect to be given a fucking prize for it. Let me cite something profound just to hammer this in:

"The moon peers onto a diseased world. There is no cure for the disease. An entire race runs mindlessly into its own destruction. Not even a single man of colossal power can even prevent the inevitable."

Let these rats and their rat royalty be lead on to drown by the pied piper of misfortune. If they want to play their game of one sided truths and self entitled anime fan elite faggotry, let them win their stupid prizes. Mad Scientist and its ilk have long been censure happy faggots who get paid in sucking Zac's and Chris's dicks for money, but they're playing with a nuke's warhead wrapped into a football at this point, and later on, one of the fuckers are going to drop it on the floor. Feel no mercy when they are forced to come to judgement themselves and are to be put down once and for all.
 
I Love Beef powiedział(a):
To summarize Mad Scientist: TL;DR, "LAH LAH LAH I WAS ON A JURY LAH LAH LAH VIC IS TOTALLY GUILTY BECAUSE MY BOSSES RUN A SMEAR CAMPAIGN WITH DICKS IN ASSES WITH FUNIMATION AND CONTROL THE CRITIC GATE OF ANIME RECOMMENDATIONS LAH LAH LAH OH ME AND MY FORUM FUCKBUDDIES SURE AREN'T CENSORING POSTS THAT CHALLENGE OUR AGENDA LAH LAH LAH"

If there's anything to legit hate on weeaboos for, it's the fact that a lot of them don't ever do their fucking studies and homework and eat whatever shit comes off of the tube as "fact". I don't even care how smart any of you faggot weebs per the exacto definition and stereotype match or don't match are reading this and smuggly tossing it like the faggot tossers you are, because intrinsically weeaboo faggotry always consists of ignorant dumbfuckery that's always the opposite of the reality and conditions that allows for what magic the anime comes to offer. Like what happens and exists in real life that inspires said shows and comics in the fucking first place that SHOULD be studied.

It's always lovely to know that this doesn't just leak into the reality of Japanese culture, society, civilization, and everyday life, but to such things like the aspects of the nation you hail from and major applied practical common sense, street smarts, wisdom, and logic. Even to places like Ass News Network and their shithead anime weeaboo elitist oldfaggotry, they still run hard on self centered ass tossing head in ground levels of ignorance. Elitists like these fuckers are much much worse than preteen hormone pubescence addled weeaboos however, because they don't see their current state of mind as a flawed and most ill state of being. Instead, they carry on with it like a plague zombie, tainting and infesting anywhere they touch and meander to, and expect to be given a fucking prize for it. Let me cite something profound just to hammer this in:

"The moon peers onto a diseased world. There is no cure for the disease. An entire race runs mindlessly into its own destruction. Not even a single man of colossal power can even prevent the inevitable."

Let these rats and their rat royalty be lead on to drown by the pied piper of misfortune. If they want to play their game of one sided truths and self entitled anime fan elite faggotry, let them win their stupid prizes. Mad Scientist and its ilk have long been censure happy faggots who get paid in sucking Zac's and Chris's dicks for money, but they're playing with a nuke's warhead wrapped into a football at this point, and later on, one of the fuckers are going to drop it on the floor. Feel no mercy when they are forced to come to judgement themselves and are to be put down once and for all.
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Well its like others have said, if they had even some solid proof to the claims about Vic, KF would have ate his lunch. But nada on that proof.

Got a questions for the lawyer types. Are these people focusing on a type of Defamation that is easily provable? Like for instance say someone defames a Veteran, screaming about Stolen Valor over and over, in Social Media, at their workplace, community yadda yadda yadda. Veteran takes that person to court, and all he would have to do is show his DD214 and case closed right?

I guess what I am getting at is are there are varying degrees of defamation correct? And each suit is different, some can be easily proved by the plaintiff while others like (being a sex pred, pedo) are almost impossible to prove by the plaintiff hence why the burden shifts to the defense after a sworn testimony.
 
Urbanmech powiedział(a):
Yea Manning said it was Soye's 400 page letter
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That was the "Saturday thing." Which would have been April 13th.

I heard what Nick said on Twitch. I have no idea. It's a mystery. He's keeping that close.

Much earlier, he also said that Sarah brother has his initial arraignment tomorrow. You know, for the child porn he totally didn't file share. He's gonna be trying to cover that too.

EDIT: Corrected date of her brother's appearance AGAIN.
 
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These people absolutely refuse to accept that 'agent' is a legal term, it doesn't mean employee. It can be an employee, but it doesn't have to be. It'd be like arguing that no one could be 'vice principal' because 'lol they're not a principal! This isn't a SCHOOL'. Clearly the case they sat on the jury for was one where the people were identified as employees, not as agents, of that company.

They should really shift their script from 'not an employee LOL! Stupid lawyer didn't ask Vic who would have known!' to 'Okay, no REASONABLE person wouldn't have known Marchi was joking, because we know who the CEO of Funimation is, so duhhhh!'
 
Urbanmech powiedział(a):
I guess what I am getting at is are there are varying degrees of defamation correct? And each suit is different, some can be easily proved by the plaintiff while others like (being a sex pred, pedo) are almost impossible to prove by the plaintiff hence why the burden shifts to the defense after a sworn testimony.
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If someone comes forward and gives testimony as to having been assaulted by the plaintiff, they'll be subject to cross examination, and the plaintiff can testify to his own version of events. It's preponderance of the evidence, not a criminal standard, so it ultimately just comes down to who the jury believes is more likely to be telling the truth.

All the potential witnesses in this case like Rial in particular have already more or less nuked their own credibility and left them subject to crucifixion and evisceration on cross examination. I don't think they'd have any credibility to any jury after that. In fact, they might lose a lot of credibility even in their own personal and professional lives forever by such a humiliation.
 
Quick recap if anyone would be so kind: At this point, what has KickVic been correct about?

Seems like this would be a shorter question to answer than the reverse.
 
Nobleberry powiedział(a):
Quick recap if anyone would be so kind: At this point, what has KickVic been correct about?

Seems like this would be a shorter question to answer than the reverse.
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Off the top of my head, the only things I can think of that are even remotely correct from kickvic is that Vic would definitely lose a suit if it was based on wrongful termination, and that Vic's lawsuit wouldn't be filed on the 15th (or 13th, if you're Shane). And neither of those instances of being correct are particularly praiseworthy.

I guess you could count that "Youtubers are raising awareness of this just for clicks" with idiots like Perfection involved, but I dunno
 
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